merjet Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I learned something new about omniscient yesterday.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative_mode#Third-person_voices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyau Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 The third-person omniscient perspective can indeed be a grand touch. It is in many fine novels, including We the Living, East of Eden, and Lessing’s Children of Violence novels. I really liked the way it was used in the film The Age of Innocence, and its use at the end of film The Bridge of San Luis Rey, in which they have Geraldine Chaplin’s character approach and speak to the audience to say Wilder’s immortal third-person words at the close of the novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 There's a great recent book I read on writing that gives you techniques for this stuff: Rivet Your Readers with Deep Point of View by Jill Elizabeth Nelson. It basically teaches you how to present the inner world and thoughts of a character while still writing in the third person.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Personally I think we get all too much of characters' inner world and thoughts in fiction these days, especially in chicklit."What does that half-smile mean, she wondered..did he notice the safety pin in her hem? A vision came to her of her mother with needle and thread...'We'll have to let out this skirt again dear..' she knew she should have worn the blue dress instead. He was talking to a thin blonde in a figure-hugging sheath...had he not really meant it when he said she was adorable? Of course not, she told herself, yet the memories of that sincere full smile kept piercing her heart..." aaargh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Carol,You would prefer a smile-meter?I wonder what memories a 3/4 smile would trigger...After-sex glow? When he saw her looking as he farted in a crowd? The day she out-guessed the contestants on The Price is Right?What are you doing reading chick-lit anyway? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Carol, You would prefer a smile-meter? I wonder what memories a 3/4 smile would trigger... After-sex glow? When he saw her looking as he farted in a crowd? The day she out-guessed the contestants on The Price is Right? What are you doing reading chick-lit anyway? MichaelMichael, Thar's gold betweem them thar pink covers. Jane Austen, the mother of them all, remains the master of presenting the inner lives of characters male and female.(best in my favourite, Persuasion). George Eliot, LM Montgomery. In our day the late lamented Maeve Binchy seamlessly melded self and sociey from the female viewpoint with an artistry that goes unrecognized beneath the "heartwarming" juggernaut of her commercial success. Jennifer Weiner, ditto-- there are so many more. If Kat does not have any to recommend, she is not the woman I think she is. Unfortunately like all successes they have inspired emulators of horrible awful banility - many of whom have made the bestseller lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ehh, I was inspired by Marvel Comics to come up with hypothetical ideas for my own line. I'd have written an ontological guide to my fictional universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 er Samson, what is a non hypothetical idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Corwell Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 er Samson, what is a non hypothetical idea?Actually making it concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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