Hoffa simplifies the 2012 election..

[Selene]

This is as clear as it gets folks

Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa had some profane, combative words for Republicans while warming up the crowd for President Obama in Detroit, Michigan on Monday.

"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa Jr. said to a heavily union crowd.

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.

Video is in the link.

If you think there is not going to be a "war" similar to 1968 in this election, you are quite delusional. This one is for most of the marbles left on the plate.

Adam

[Roger Bissell]

This is as clear as it gets folks

Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa had some profane, combative words for Republicans while warming up the crowd for President Obama in Detroit, Michigan on Monday.

"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa Jr. said to a heavily union crowd.

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.

Video is in the link.

If you think there is not going to be a "war" similar to 1968 in this election, you are quite delusional. This one is for most of the marbles left on the plate.

Adam

Adam, I am afraid I agree completely with what you say here. I wish it weren't so, but it's all too apparent that it is.

I will just add that, if you think the 2008 election corruption (via Vote America and ACORN) was bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet. The leftists and unions and BO himself with his projected $1 BILLION dollar re-election campaign will make the civil-conflict scenarios in Allen Drury's novels look like a school picnic. Before it's over, we may be begging BO to declare martial law.

And of course, it will all be the fault of George W. Bush and/or the Tea Party. And anyone who is influenced by the "selfishness" and "predatory capitalism" of Rand and Objectivism.

REB

P.S. -- If you haven't already, start buying your survival goods, gold & silver, weapons, and electrical generators ~now~. And pray to God that I'm wrong, and you don't need them.

[Selene]

What dead body? I see nothing, I know nothing...

Debbie "Sergeant Schultz" Wassernan Schultz's, [by the way, O'biwan thinks she is cute, gagging as I write this] response to questioning the Hoffa death threats against his fellow American citizens in the Tea Party:

video and article here

<<<<Sgt. Schultz

[BaalChatzaf]

This is as clear as it gets folks

Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa had some profane, combative words for Republicans while warming up the crowd for President Obama in Detroit, Michigan on Monday.

"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa Jr. said to a heavily union crowd.

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.

Video is in the link.

If you think there is not going to be a "war" similar to 1968 in this election, you are quite delusional. This one is for most of the marbles left on the plate.

Adam

I wonder if he plans to beat up "tea bags" or plant bombs in their cars, like his dead-as-a-door-nail daddy used to do.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[Selene]

In the interests of truth, here is the section in question in full context:

President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.

And President Obama, we want one thing: jobs, jobs, jobs… That’s what we’re going to tell him. He’s gonna be … and when he sees what we’re doing here, he will be inspired. But he needs help. And you know what? Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back, and we keep the eye on the prize…

Let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

Now, at least, you have the full context and can decide whether it is as much of a threat as I still think it is.

Adam

[BaalChatzaf]

In the interests of truth, here is the section in question in full context:

President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.

And President Obama, we want one thing: jobs, jobs, jobs… That's what we're going to tell him. He's gonna be … and when he sees what we're doing here, he will be inspired. But he needs help. And you know what? Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back, and we keep the eye on the prize…

Let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

Now, at least, you have the full context and can decide whether it is as much of a threat as I still think it is.

Adam

Given the background of the Hoffas I can easily see violence happening. Young Hoffa is a goon, just like his Dad.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[George H. Smith]

In the interests of truth, here is the section in question in full context:

President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march.

And President Obama, we want one thing: jobs, jobs, jobs… That's what we're going to tell him. He's gonna be … and when he sees what we're doing here, he will be inspired. But he needs help. And you know what? Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back, and we keep the eye on the prize…

Let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

Now, at least, you have the full context and can decide whether it is as much of a threat as I still think it is.

Adam

Given the background of the Hoffas I can easily see violence happening. Young Hoffa is a goon, just like his Dad.

Ba'al Chatzaf

Rush Limbaugh played the Hoffa sound clip earlier today while playing the Godfather Theme in the background. Limbaugh, needless to say, can annoy the hell out of me, but when he hits the ball it is frequently a home run.

[Robert Campbell]

I take Hoffa Junior's speech as proof of desperation.

I'm sure that most of the remaining labor unions will put everything they have into reelecting Obama, and they won't be too fastidious about the means employed.

But look at some of their recent efforts.

How much did they spend on Bill Halter's campaign against Blanche Lincoln in 2010? (She won the primary, only to get stomped in the general election—which is what would have happened to Halter, if he'd won the primary.)

How much have they put into overturning legislation in Wisconsin that eliminates the power of most public employee unions?

— Encouraging the Democrats in the State Senate to flee to Illinois so there wouldn't be a quorum for the budget bill; the provisions about public employee unions were removed from the budget bill so a supermajority quorum was no longer required, it passed, and a bogus legal challenge against it then failed.

— Trying to tip the overall political leaning of the Wisconsin Supreme Court so it would uphold the bogus legal challenge; they failed in a special election.

— Trying to regain a majority in the State Senate through recall elections; they spent big, didn't mention collective bargaining for state employees in any of their campaign ads, and fell short.

— Trying to recall the governor; well, it's no longer clear that they will try, as they surely would have if they'd succeeded in Phases 1 through 3.

Are the NEA and AFSCME really going to resort to mass violence to try to keep their privileges?

Despite Hoffa Junior's rhetoric, I doubt it.

Robert Campbell

[Selene]

Bob:

I expect their election field campaign, but I agree that they will not make a difference. However, their thuggery will give the cover to Project Vote [ACORN's mature Oak Tree organization], the "Panther Party" Philadelphia types and the true leftists/marxist underbelly of the Alinsky wing who are dedicated to pure unadulterated fire in the streets campaign tactics. A facade to permit a state of emergency scenario is how I would run things if I was on the other side.

Hoffa this morning on ABC news

"It's absolutely a war. They declared war on us. We didn’t declare war on them. They’re the ones that introduced right to work in 14 states, and went after public employee bargaining rights in both Wisconsin and Ohio. We’re fighting them across the board. They want to roll the clock back to about 1900," Teamsters President James Hoffa told ABC News.

Later in the interview, Mr. Hoffa calls for higher taxes on the billionaires and the "trillionaires." Transcript below:

Ann Compton, ABC News: "Now, the Tea Party wants deficit under control. It wants less government spending. Is that in itself anti-worker?"

James Hoffa: "Well what it is basically, they want to balance the budget on the back of working Americans. They don't want to have more revenue from the billionaires and the trillionaires. They don't want the hedge-fund persons to pay what my members pay, maybe 30% in taxes."

[Selene]

Now that stupid Kant, Sarah Palin puts her ignorant, ill informed, and dumb comments about Hoffa into the public square...

when is she going to learn to shut up, she is such a Kant!

Welcome, Union Brothers and Sisters

by Sarah Palin on Tuesday, September 6, 2011 at 2:50amIn my speech on Saturday in Iowa, I said: “Between bailouts for Wall Street cronies and stimulus projects for union bosses’ security and ‘green energy’ giveaways, [barack Obama] took care of his friends. And now they’re on course to raise a billion dollars for his re-election bid so that they can do it all over again.” This was shamefully on display yesterday at President Obama’s taxpayer-funded campaign rally in Detroit. In introducing the President, Teamsters President James Hoffa represented precisely what I was talking about as he declared war on concerned independent Americans and on the freshman members we sent to Congress last November by saying, “Let’s take these son-of-a-bitches out!”

What I say now, I say as a proud former union member and the wife, daughter, and sister of union members. So, as a former card-carrying IBEW sister married to a proud former Laborers, IBEW, and later USW member, please hear me out. What I have to say is for the hard working, patriotic, selfless union brothers and sisters in Michigan and throughout our country: Please don’t be taken in by union bosses’ thuggery like Jim Hoffa represented yesterday. Union bosses like this do not have your best interests at heart. What they care about is their own power and re-electing their friend Barack Obama so he will take care of them to the detriment of everyone else.

To the same degree Americans are concerned about irresponsible, greedy corporate execs who got cushy bonuses from taxpayer-funded bailouts, we should also be concerned about greedy union bosses who are willing to tank our economy just to protect their own power. As union history shows, power and greed corrupt. Just because you claim to represent union members doesn’t mean you are on the side of the angels. The greed of too many of these union bosses has all but destroyed the labor movement in this country, helped chase away our jobs, and is killing the American dream.

To see where this leads, look at what’s happening to the working class in our industrialized cities. These cities are going to hell in a hand basket thanks to corruption, crony capitalism, and the union bosses’ greed. The union bosses derive their power from your union dues and their promise to deliver your votes to whichever politician they’re in bed with. They get their power from you, and yet their actions ultimately hurt you. They’re chasing American industry offshore by making outrageous, economically illogical demands that they know will never work. And now that they’ve chased jobs out of union states, they’re trying to chase them out of right-to-work states like South Carolina, so eventually the jobs will leave America altogether. But these union bosses will still figure out a way to keep their gig, and so will their politically aligned corporate friends. As long as these big corporations have a good crony capitalist in the White House, they can rely on DC to bail them out until the whole system goes bankrupt, which, I am afraid, is not very far off. When big government, big business, and big union bosses collude together, they get government to maximize their own interests against those of the rest of the country.

So, now these union bosses are desperately trying to cast the grassroots Tea Party Movement as being “against the workingman.” How outrageously wrong this unapologetic Jim Hoffa is, for the people’s movement is the real movement for working class men and women. It’s rooted in real solidarity, and not special interests and corporate kickbacks. It represents the needed reform that will empower workers and job creators. We stand with the little guy against the corruption and influence peddling of those who collude to grease the wheels of government power.

This collusion is at the heart of Obama’s economic vision for America. In practice it is socialism for the very rich and the very poor, but a brutal form of capitalism for the rest of us. It is socialism for the very poor who are reduced to a degrading perpetual dependence on a near-bankrupt centralized government to provide their every need, while at the same time robbing them of that which brings fulfillment and success – the life-affirming pride that comes from taking responsibility for your own destiny and building a better life through self-initiative and work ethic. And Obama’s vision is socialism via crony capitalism for the very rich who continue to get bailouts, debt-ridden “stimulus” funds, and special favors that allow them to waive off or help draft the burdensome regulations that act as a boot on the neck to small business owners who don’t have the same friends in high places. And where does this collusion leave working class Americans and the small business owners who create 70% of the jobs in this country? Out in the cold. It’s you and your children who are left paying for the cronyism of Obama and our permanent political class in DC.

Ask yourself if the folks you heard demonize concerned, independent Americans yesterday really speak for the working class when they’re all too happy to burden your families with the bill to bail out the President’s friends on Wall Street.

We should not forget that for all his lofty rhetoric, President Obama is a Chicago politician. Graft, cronyism, and quid pro quo are the well-known methods of an infamous Chicago political machine, of which Barack Obama emerged. This corruption isn’t just the result of a few bad apples. It’s the nature of a skewed system that’s typical of one not allowing a level playing field. If one desires opportunity for all, then the only solution is sudden and relentless reform. I know of what I speak. I too served in public office in a state that had a corruption problem. The difference is that I fought the corrupt political machine. Barack Obama used the machine in his state to advance. He never challenged it. And he’s evidently brought the same Chicago “pay-to-play” practices to the White House.

It’s sad to see much of the labor movement fall lock step behind a President whom Hoffa calls upon to partner in “waging war” against patriotic Americans. I will never forget that as a governor, in trying to be a friend to the working men and women in our unions, I gave a speech on August 27, 2008, at the annual AFL-CIO meeting in Anchorage. There, union members humbled me with a standing ovation for fighting the corruption in Alaska and for bringing parties together for progress on energy development projects. Then just two days later I landed on the national stage as John McCain’s running mate, and the union leadership turned on me from that day forward even though I had not changed one iota in my plans, principles, vision, and commitment to jobs for working class Americans. The only difference was I was challenging the politician the union bosses were committed to electing. It was almost comical, this lesson learned with their new spots revealed so quickly.

Recently someone commented: “I’m a union member. I’ve been a Democrat all my life. Now I’ll vote for anyone with a plan to save America.” I know what that person is feeling. I want all good union brothers and sisters to know that there is an alternative. The grassroots, independent Tea Party Movement articulates a real alternative rooted in free men and free markets, not the cronyism of Barack Obama and the permanent political class in DC. Their cronyism is why we have no job growth, massive unsustainable debt, and a housing market in the tank. Too many politicians are simply addressing the economic symptoms instead of fighting the underlying disease. The path forward is through reform. On Saturday, I outlined some ideas about that reform, and I will continue to do so.

In the meantime, good union brothers and sisters, don’t let Hoffa tell you what to do. He doesn’t represent the real interests of working men and women. He’s not doing you any favors. He’s just living off your paychecks.

- Sarah Palin

What a dumb Kant!

Adam

[Robert Campbell]

A facade to permit a state of emergency scenario is how I would run things if I was on the other side

Adam,

It comes down to whether our current President is so bloody-minded that he is willing to become Vladimir Ilyich Obama ... or Juan Domingo Obama ... or Muammar al-Obama.

To become any of these, wouldn't he have to acknowledge to himself that he can't be re-elected fair and square—that the only path to staying in power is carrying out a coup?

Robert Cambpell

[Selene]

A facade to permit a state of emergency scenario is how I would run things if I was on the other side

Adam,

It comes down to whether our current President is so bloody-minded that he is willing to become Vladimir Ilyich Obama ... or Juan Domingo Obama ... or Muammar al-Obama.

To become any of these, wouldn't he have to acknowledge to himself that he can't be re-elected fair and square—that the only path to staying in power is carrying out a coup?

Robert Campbell

Robert:

Absolutely. I fundamentally believe that it is a probability, rather than a possibility with this man. I have been following him since about 2003. Nothing I have seen about him would eliminate him taking

that path.

His history is quite cloudy. Whenever I see a ray of sunlight penetrating the fog of O'bama's background, it seems to illuminate people, positions and behavior that support my suspicions. His navigation of

the Chicago political La Brea Tar Pits of Chicago indicate a willingness to eliminate the opposition by any means necessary. His funding of the Mid West Academy, ACORN and other paramilitary groups certainly outline a comfort level with both Alinsky street tactics and the theoretical level of overwhelming the system.

I hope I am wrong, but I fear I am not. I predicted early on when he was under 5% in the polls that he and his campaign cadres would beat the vaunted Clinton machine. They did. At that same time, I predicted that he would be the President. Needless to say most of my network thought that I had truly lost my mind.

This is a very dangerous man. His wife is just as lethal. The folks behind him, Plouffe, Axelrod, Jarret, Kagen, his real estate pal who is in Federal prison, et. al. are playing for keeps.

Sorry to be the bearer of potentially bad tidings, but these folks scare the hell out of me.

Adam