Selene Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Can we expel Vermont with reverse secession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiodekadent Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 It should be acknowledged that Sanders' definition of "socialism" is so ridiculously broad it basically means "any well-intentioned government that regulates the economy in some way." He isn't a State Socialist. He's a Social Democrat.That said, if libertarians can be accused of being hypocrites for using roads/public services/etc, Sanders' can be accused of being a hypocrite for engaging in commerce with a corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 It should be acknowledged that Sanders' definition of "socialism" is so ridiculously broad it basically means "any well-intentioned government that regulates the economy in some way." He isn't a State Socialist. He's a Social Democrat.That said, if libertarians can be accused of being hypocrites for using roads/public services/etc, Sanders' can be accused of being a hypocrite for engaging in commerce with a corporation.Really.So libertarians who pay taxes are hypocrites for using the roads? You consider these comparable to Sanders?Fascinating!Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiodekadent Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 It should be acknowledged that Sanders' definition of "socialism" is so ridiculously broad it basically means "any well-intentioned government that regulates the economy in some way." He isn't a State Socialist. He's a Social Democrat.That said, if libertarians can be accused of being hypocrites for using roads/public services/etc, Sanders' can be accused of being a hypocrite for engaging in commerce with a corporation.Really.So libertarians who pay taxes are hypocrites for using the roads? You consider these comparable to Sanders?Fascinating!AdamAdam,I was being sarcastic.As a libertarian myself, I do NOT believe it to be hypocrisy for a libertarian to use social services and infrastructure which they have been taxed in order to fund.By the same token, I don't believe it is hypocrisy for a Social Democrat like Sanders (who, we can fairly argue, is socialist if we define socialism in a very broad way (like he does himself), but we cannot assume he is a State Socialist because he isn't) to engage in commerce with a corporation.Social Democrats are not Marxists or any other form of State Socialist. That said, I strongly disagree with Sanders. However, him marketing a book with a business entity that happens to be organized as corporation is NOT automatic hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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