Jon Letendre

1 hour ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

Jon,

That is the worst insult to my thinking ability I have ever received from anyone in the 21+ years I've posted on O"vish lists.  Is it that you haven't read any of the material Peter's posted from Ellen Moore?  Or do you actually think that I would have written such stuff?

I have not really read her, no. I see her in the Atlantis postings that Peter puts up but I don't usually read that old stuff. Maybe I would agree about her thinking ability if I dug in but she seemed rational enough and making discerning points from what little I examined. No insult intended.

29 minutes ago, Dglgmut said:

But this isn't true, if it were then reality would also be a noose. The king may fear the peasants, he may also fear a wild animal, he may also fear a patch of ice in his path. These things all inform his actions; they all influence his choices.

I don't recall which character in The Fountainhead says that about leashes, I think it was Wynand. His/her point was that not only the slave but also the master loses their authentic self in the relationship. The nooses "execute" the self at each end.

The President yesterday shared a video about Obamagate ... 

Slowly getting us used to the fact they are criminals and traitors so we are not too surprised when we see them in handcuffs next year.

4 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Let me amend my previous post.

I started listening to the lecture.

Dennett laid out five scenarios of what religions might turn into in the future. Why five? Based on what? He couldn't be bothered to say.

Then he laid down the law, with a title slide and all: "All but one of these (at most) is wildly wrong."

That's one hell of a presupposition to accept on faith: that in the future ALL religions will morph into the same thing.

That's easily refuted by a simple question, why has that never happened in human history, including now, and why are there no indications that this will happen?

I want to keep watching, but the premise logic... man... I can't get into it.

Signing off on that one...

Sorry...

Michael

He knows because he is in the cult that is trying to make it happen. So is the Pope. And he too has been acting hard to make it happen, explicitly equating Catholicism and Islam, explicitly pushing One Religion. In their New World Order there is planned One (Luciferian) Religion.

You want to discuss pedophile Teigen but you lack the intellectual integrity to go back and acknowledge and update on what you pushed for three years.

You play games, you are not a serious or honest person intellectually.

6 minutes ago, merjet said:

Check your assumption. Link. My post was about Ellen Moore.

Well, I'll be damned. I always took them as same person, using both maiden and married names.

18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Is President Donald Trump guilty of colluding with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election? Yes or no?

Come on, Billy. Give it a shot!

5 hours ago, merjet said:

Barbara captured quite well my recollection of Ellen Moore. Ellen considered herself an expert on Objectivism. I once had an exchange with her about her assertion that 'similarity reduces to measurement omission.' This was about 20 years ago. So my memory of our exchange is now vague, but it went something like follows. Peter posted what looks like part of it here. Seeing her assertion as gibberish,  I challenged Ellen to clearly explain it, with at least one example, and to cite passages written by Ayn Rand, especially from Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology, to support her assertion. She tried multiple times without success, usually remarking about how dense I was for not understanding the obvious. She would cite a passage from Rand which didn't support her assertion along with repeating or adding more of her own gibberish. Eventually I made a parody of Ellen forming the concept of orange (the fruit), that went something like follows.

Ellen gathered together several oranges, not all identical. For example, some navel, some Valencia, some large, some small, etc. She could perceive their similarity, but she didn't yet have the concept orange. So she proceeded to measure the oranges in various ways -- their circumference around the middle, how thick the rind was, how many seeds were inside, how much each weighed, etc. She still didn't have the concept orange or grasp the oranges' similarity conceptually. Then I told her she had not yet measured how much juice she could squeeze out of each orange. She had a sudden flash of insight. She finally realized she had omitted the measurements of how juicy each orange was. Thus she finally grasped similarity conceptually and the concept orange.  

Maybe you already know this but you write like she is gone. Ellen is here at OL, posting as Ellen Stuttle.

You just got here.

14 hours ago, tmj said:

Was there only one ‘8 minute and 49 second’ video? I’ve never seen an entire video of the incident, but most of the clips I’ve seen seem to be of Floyd on the ground and from the same angle. 

 Given  the amount of obvious exposure , and the nature of social media , is it odd that not much seems to be known about the person who took ‘the video’? Or is this person known and I just missed it?

 

Yes, there are usually many videos. I don't particularly believe Floyd even died. It could have been faked, it all looked goofy as hell. They worked together in the past, they knew each other. When you have some time try pinning a friend down with one knee to his head/neck and see how long it takes just about anyone to get out of that. What I see in the video looks like playtime, story hour, make-believe, false flag. They needed rioting in all the cities and they engineered a pretext for that.

Note to anyone looking to discuss the pedophile Chrissy Teigen with Billyboy: When she is arrested and all her victims come forward you will never hear another word from him about her again. So, hurry up and discuss.

Also Billyboy, Q is an operation of Team Trump, an anti-pedophiles operation at that and so your resultant hatred of it is neither surprising nor interesting.

Perverse incentives are set up when someone owns a pathogen.

Since they created it, they probably also had time to develop vaccines for it and/or cures for the diseases it causes.

All they need now is legal immunity for the additional diseases caused by the vaccines and cures, for which they also have treatments to sell.

I'm kidding, they have already taken care of obtaining total legal immunity for damages.

A dog, sure. They patented a mouse. It is mentioned in the CBC article I linked to earlier.

They genetically modified the naturally-occurring mouse genome, making it more susceptible to cancer, and patented that new line of mouse.

2 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Jon,

I just had the same thought.

And we have his answer: no, he is not capable of explaining what gotcha he thinks he has. He wants instead to leave the impression he has a great gotcha simply by pointing to a link. Such a dumb fucking loser.

Many pathogens have been patented.

Seven year old article:

"The outbreak of a novel coronavirus in the Middle East is not only raising worldwide health concerns but triggering questions about the ability of organizations to patent the genetic sequences of diseases for profit.

 ...

"The virus was identified in September 2012, three months after the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, Netherlands, acquired a sample of it. The centre has taken out a patent on the virus’s genetic sequence.

"While Saudi officials and the WHO have said the patent will impede the process of containing MERS-CoV and developing treatments, Erasmus has defended the move.

"Albert Osterhaus, a virologist at Erasmus, told Bloomberg News that patenting the virus was a "normal thing to do."

"Indeed, the patenting of genetically modified or isolated viruses is nothing new, says David Schwartz, a patent lawyer and partner at the Canadian intellectual property firm Smart & Biggar.  

"You can’t patent a disease condition per se, such as cancer or influenza," says Schwartz. "But if you’re talking about patenting a lifeform like a bacteria or virus, if altered by man, the answer there is yes."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/can-you-patent-a-disease-1.1355379

I don't want to go to the link. Are you capable of explaining what you think you have?

It has to feel bad that an imbecile like that wiped the floor with all your dirty asses and is going to do the same but worse in three months.

Why remind yourself over and over of how incompetent your party and all of you truly are?

President Trump said he likes Q ...

5 hours ago, Dglgmut said:

he probably was counted as a COVID death.

... with a comorbidiknee.

How many questions, Eric?

Some dumb leftist today said to Kayleigh McEnany during her press briefing question period that he has never heard of the government getting a percentage of private transactions. He really said that. He asked her to explain how that would work because he has never heard of such a thing and it sounds fundamentally wrong to him.

How did Trump get them to open that conversation?

Tik-Tok is a spy and data theft operation of the PLA (People's Liberation Army) of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). It will soon be ended as a data theft and enemy spy operation. Microsoft is buying it and will be subject to privacy law, storing data only in U.S., etc. Negotiations got pretty hard for Microsoft (the sellers want fifty thousand million dollars) so Trump pointed out publicly he can and will ban it in the U.S. as soon as he feels like doing that. Of course, that would destroy the value of the social media app before a deal and so the CCP grew more agreeable, negotiations sped right back up. Trump then says the U.S. government should get a percentage of the deal from Microsoft, for helping facilitate, .

So anyway, the dumb leftist today at the briefing can't stand that the CCP's operation is being shut down and openly questions "the government receiving a percentage of private transactions."

... with one comorbidiknee.

Floyd died of Covid-19.

I may have a warrior's mind, but I also have a nurterer's heart. The former was useful in my fifteen successful years as a slumlord and the latter as a successful at-home parent, raising two daughters after their mother spent 12 family leave weeks at home then returned to work. I am probably the one with the highest nurturing credentials here. I know I don't win the warrior contest, never been shot at, never had a knife come at me, never had to even try to harm another. I carry since being a slumlord at age 22 and several times I was about to draw and fire but still have never had to. The last time was about 15 years ago at the end of my landlording career. I was selling my last building and had with me my two year old and my newborn sleeping in a takeaway carseat with a handle. We arrived a little early for a morning showing at the building so my selling broker and the buyers were not there yet. We were in an empty unit with wood floors, you could hear a pin drop and it was very echowy and I wondered why my newborn was making those nasal sounds. I walked to her and realized it was not her but was coming from a closet. I put them into a room and went back to this closet, opened it and took four or five steps back. A man emerged, befuddled. I don't know how he got into the building or the apartment but he looked strung out from the night before. I had my palm on my CZ 9mm now and could be very fast.  I mustered my sternest, pointing to the exit and saying "that way." He went that way.

1 hour ago, Jon Letendre said:

Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews explained that his slaves are forbidden from visiting friends in their homes but not forbidden from visiting commercial hospitality, because they would be "unsupervised" in their homes and may not practice the correct protocols.

Strange how none of this fascism and economy cancelling was ever required when we had much worse outbreaks in the past.

Premier Andrews is upset that when ADF went to homes to visit some people who presumably knew or should have known of their positive status, they were not at home. He assures us he will refer them to the police (but doesn't want that to be seen as a criticism of them.)

"Mr Andrews said there were 30 Australian Defence Force teams doorknocking in Victoria on Wednesday and 269 homes were visited.

A number of coronavirus-infected residents were not home.  

'Now, I don't want this to be seen as criticism or blame, but I'm obliged to point out that there were a number of people who were not home,' he said.

'They will be referred to Victoria Police.' "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8574253/Victoria-announces-record-700-new-coronavirus-cases-13-deaths.html