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see "Hormesis" as well:
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Yet another example of fate,synchronicity ,weird "whether you go laughing and singing or kicking and screaming" is a phrase I've seen on this thread and in the rebroadcast of G Beck's radio show from this week.
I doubt it re Glenn Beck.
I listen to him regularly and he never says anything even remotely similar.
Michael
heh heh heh heh heh
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Greg's version is like a combination of the Christain belief with the Hindu and Buddhist belief
I wonder how Greg's beliefs are not a Christianized version of The Secret, with Jeebus placed as a cherry on top?
More seriously, though:
in working out the wrongdoings of earlier lives through reincarnation until reaching the level at which one gets off the wheel of things.
In one sense he is right -- we are all victims of our upbringing, just as our parents were victims of theirs. As any social worker will tell you, ending the cycle of abuse in dysfunctional familes involves a lot of anguish and HARD WORK on the part of the family's latest iteration. Positing "free will" and "autonomy" in the manner of Objectivism usually just results in a change of verbalisms -- rearranging the furniture without changing the actual room, as Greg put it before.
"The nature of the beast is quite depressing. For example, the fact that early childhood training affects the organism to the degree it does argues for a very primitive species. Regardless of the cortical processes or "consciousness", early childhood trauma, modeling, beliefs and training stay with most people until they die. This argues for a tribal form of inteligence; early programming remains with the organism almost regardless of cortical feedback." -- Hyatt
"The sins of the father are heaped on the son by way of the mother." - Ibid
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Bro, do you even lift?
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"To be in Awe of Life is the only True Religion" -- C.S. Hyatt
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"Some go laughing and singing...
...while others go kicking and screaming."
--Greg
"'Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful" -- Nietzsche
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That's a good one, Tony.
We're all headed for Kingdom Come... one way or the other.
Greg
Stop the tumbrel; I want to get off!
--Brant
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Changing a culture for good is more than a media campaign or enacting a law. It involves education and peaceful coexistence between formerly hostile parties over decades.
Progressive: "That's EXACTLY what we're saying!!!"
MSK: ???
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I tend to avoid tribalism unless it's an issue of security.
lol. when isn't it?
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Ellen, you might be interested to learn that Timothy Leary considered the Tarot an early and primitive attempt at expressing the reality of DNA and its role as biological information-storage. (Leary also considered himself to be the reincarnation of Crowley, btw).
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Life-Future-History-Series/dp/1561840505
At the heart of the manuscript is Leary's use of the Tarot to explain the eight-circuit model, in which he assumes the Tarot to be "a primitive version of the neurogenetic code contained in the periodic table." Using the Tarot's "minor arcana suits [to] represent the four amino acids, and the trumps the DNA code", Leary describes "twenty four stages in personal and species evolution." "The Tarot," he asserts, "is a concise, accurate blueprint of the {multi-billion year}course of neurogentic evolution, {past and future}. The skeletal structure of the system is accurate although the verbal labels and role designations (Fool, Pope, Emperor, Hermit) are outdated, trite, and confusing."
Greg probably considers this "satanic demonology" or somesuch.
He'd probably be right, too. ;)
p.s. Leary started to the lose the plot in his later years, but I found his pre-LSD Harvard work to have value -- his Interpersonal Circumplex, in particular. Just imagine if the early luminaries in the Oist movement had bothered to consider this material, instead of positing and having faith in absolute and effortless autonomy. I wonder if we'd have the same fractures and fissures...
Image here.
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I know, that's what weird means
As a matter of course the synchronicities in the flow of events reveal themselves when you're right where you're supposed to be in relation to that flow. :smile:GregStephenson is a trip, I have been enjoying his books lately.It's weird , literally(well not really), my reading this thread and Snow Crash at the same time. The novel talks of DNA, the origin of the serpent in religious symbols, schorlarly queries into the authors of the Old Testament, somebody works in mysterious ways..
After a while weird becomes normal when you get used to it by following one synchronicity that leads to another.
Greg
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somebody works in mysterious ways..
Thou hast just entered Chapel Perilous.
(If you enjoy weird coincidences, check out Cosmic Trigger)
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Paging Kolker:
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Darrell - the "long history of success" in science does not speak to our moral choices. Science might have a relationship to morality, but that relationship is orthogonal
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Not too many writers who authored novels, and as an afterthought, threw off an entire philosophy 'on the side' (so to speak).
All to substantiate her metaphysical value-judgments of the nature of man and existence - which she'd portrayed in her fiction.
Broadly, it could be said that the fiction was by induction and the philosophy, deduction.
Fiction by induction and philosophy by deduction?
I wonder how Mr. "Identification First, Evaluation Second" (MSK) feels about this?
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Fascinating point. This also fits with Jonatan's theory that Rands artistic premises drove her other premises, i.e., her ethics, etc.
I remember hearing Peikoff's '76 taped course -- the whole series was an attempt to elucidate Objectivism from "the ground up", block by block, each new step logically derived from the preceding, until finally arriving at Rand's theory of art. However, the very first lecture was titled (iirc), "The Metaphysical Nature of Man", wherein Peikoff waxed eloquent on the "sense of life" of Objectivism, and how it differed from other philosophies. It was quite moving and inspirational. He offered some dubious excuse for why he chose to start the course off in this manner, instead of diving right into Metaphysics.
After Objectivism and I grew apart, I recognized the gambit for what it was -- subtle manipulation, what the psychologists call "priming", a technique often used by cult leaders. It allows the listener to hold psycho-emotive images in mind as the rest of "reasons" and "logic" are poured on top.
It was only until recently, after studying Nietzsche, that I no longer view what Peikoff did as "manipulation", but rather the reality of how EVERYONE "chooses" their philosophies. For humans, aesthetics comes first. Reverse-engineering their sentiments into """reasons""" comes second.
I hold no grudges.
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It's not my feeling, Robert. For thousands of years the snake has been an archetype representing evil... but who knows, in another thousand years the archetype could be the lawyer.Just for the reality record...most snakes are not "lethally poisoness."
Second, snakes are not "slick" or "slippery," they are quite dry in terms of touch.
It's also unclear why he feels snakes are "deceitful" and "deceptive" more than any other animal.
Greg
OH!! Greg takes a shot!
nice one
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Greg:
Hmmm...
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Well, this is playing a "power game," Robert. You're trying to push it back on Michael instead of not. Might as well be arm wrestling, only he's not joining you at that table. More generally, most of what you were on about with Kacy seems to be of the same ilk only considerably worse. You treated him like you were field-dressing a feral hog.
Hey, cut RB some slack. Somebody needs to do the dirty work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugdpjKVH3EQ
p.s. asking = pushing?
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Ellen is so sexy when she talks physics. I bet she's the kinda gal who gets excited by cutting edge thinking.
Time is the Space...between me and you - Seal (<-----now that is True Love)
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Sarcasm is buffered anger. Using it casually and frequently is the high (low?) end of passive-aggressive. The more you use it the cheaper it is.
--Brant
I agree. Are you suggesting I have used sarcasm excessively?
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God I love being a liberal!!!
Self-acceptance is always the first step.
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It's a mental impossibility to read someone regularly and to not understand something of his premises. And why should one pretend otherwise?
Indeed. But Kacy seems to believe that you are not justified in having such an understanding if your interlocutor tells you differently.
According to him, what an individual verbalizes about himself is the final word, and any contradictions or ulterior motives you detect are "arbitrary", and thereby null and void. You have been plainly TOLD what your interlocutor believes, you see. Basic human respect for the other person demands that you cease and desist your line of thinking, otherwise unpleasant consequences will ensue. Snuff that spark of thought in your soul, MICROAGGRESSOR.
This is probably due to his being steeped in the atheist/skeptic community, whose zeal for attacking "pseudoscience" and enforcing Right Thinking has grown to the point where having basic human intuition and social sense is an affront against "reason." This strikes me as profoundly regressive and counterproductive.
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Inquisition-Robert-Wilson/dp/1561840025
Look what they did to Rupert Sheldrake (ya feel me, Mike?)
I swear, if Objectivism/Skepticism doesn't attract autists, it certainly creates them.
Oh shit. Did I just tell Kacy what he is thinking? Forgive me Father for I have sinned...
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Greg, I'm curious what your opinion is of Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ.
Jesusporn for immoral secular leftists.
Profaning the sacred always excites the degenerate.
Greg
Would you put "Last Temptation" and Serrano's "Piss Christ" in the same moral category?
Awesome Talk with Ray Bradbury--The Meaning of Life
in Creative Writing
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Bob, I noticed you edited this post, but I was going to say I favor my Hyatt quote because he means "Awe" in its literal definition, not the kind of sentimentality Bradbury enjoys.
Notice the prominence of "dread."