Mikee

For Bob:  Artificial intelligence to replace Physicists

" I do know God indirectly by personally experiencing the objective reality

of His physical and moral laws which govern the consequences of my own actions."

and

"...the objective reality of the laws which govern the moral consequences of your own actions."

From Greg's last two posts.  The first is consistent with Einstein.  The second with Ayn Rand.  It's no wonder Greg is enjoying himself...

Donald Trump just exposed America's dirty little secret 

"[Trump] recognizes that we have a bubble and he wants to make America great again," Schiff said, adding that of all the candidates he has the best understanding of how bad the problems are.

"To get great again we need to recreate what made us great in the first place, and so we're going to have to let interest rates go up," Schiff added. "A big part of that is admitting that we aren't going to be able to re-pay the debt."

3 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Mike,

Hear hear!

You see what I see in the very way I see it.

 

Michael

Thanks Michael.  I took the long way around...

Boo hoo, civilization has come to an end...  Yeah, just like everything that can be invented has been invented.  To figure out Donald Trumps successes one only has to look at the alternatives.  I believe Trump is the most honest, least politically correct potential POTUS in my lifetime.  He even has Reagan beat in that regard.  I think he also has better instincts about when he's being conned by the political establishment than Reagan.  That was Reagan's downfall in my opinion.  He was talked into compromises by a democrat congress (and establishment Republicans) which made his presidency less successful than it could have been.  Trump and his family have more to lose than anyone I can think of if he fucks up the presidency so I think he will try very hard to get the best advice he can find about everything, and it won't be from establishment political hacks.  I've actually become optimistic.  That's a new thing for me, feels kind of strange... 

Nothing is stupider that a supposed individualist not respecting the differing opinions of others.  Or, for that matter, someone who doesn't have at least some doubt about their own opinions.

Whatever resonated in you about your love exists in you.  What you loved in your lover is in you.  Preserve yourself, love yourself.  Your memories of your love exist inside of you.  Cherish them, talk about them.  To that extent he still exists and and effects the world.  Take very good care of yourself, diet, exercise, sleep well.  Love your friendships, your pets, your thoughts, your life.  Yourself.  You are your highest value, your loves are a reflection of what you value.

My god Bob.  You are obsessed with the world of lifeless physical phenomenon which obey the laws of motion only and ignore the world of the living.  Perhaps because you are too close to a lifeless state yourself?

Christopher Reeves, so long as he was alive, retained the will to live and had the means to direct others to move his limbs on a daily basis in physical therapy, hoping for an eventual cure for his paralysis.  He probably got more exercise in a day than most people do.

Did it ever occur to you to wonder what purpose the original poster of this thread had in starting it?  Do you imagine it was so he could get a lesson in Physics 101 and the impotence of philosophy?

Where there's a will there's a way...

Speaking of life, the prime mover is the will to achieve a goal.  Presumably the whole purpose of participating on a philosophical website is to strengthen the will.

From Olivia Pierson's blog:  Why Trump deserves to win the American Election

About Trump haters:  " I am so disgusted with these people for pretending to have such "great judgment" yet are not able to see their own shocking propensity for context dropping, despite their self-proclaimed intellectual prowess. They, in their various critiques, get to feel superior to Trump in some fucked up way - and that is the only emotion which carries them along in their criticism and Derangement Syndrome. I hope they have the good grace to let me know when they have created a family fortune of 10 billion plus, have the heart, guts and competence to want to save their country from becoming a "once was" civilization. I hope they let me know when they have 2 ex-wives as good friends, along with five high-functioning kids who absolutely adore them - and, more importantly, want to learn from them. I won't hold my breath. "

5 minutes ago, Roger Bissell said:

Meaning that the rules of civility and engagement on OL are not firm, objective rules, but subject to the Framer's whim.

Paraphrasing MSK's indictment of Jeb Bush:  OL's rules of civility and engagement are tools of power and persuasion, not commitments, and MSK need not honor and uphold and enforce them when he doesn't like it.

This is not an insult, any more than MSK's indictment of Jeb Bush was an insult. It's just a statement of fact.

REB

You are obviously a scholar: a master at answering questions indirectly...i.e; not answering at all.  Would you care to try again?

Good points:  Conrad Black in New York Sun

" Donald Trump is a centrist who has attracted an army of disaffected, economically vulnerable, patriots. There is nothing very frightening in that. "

38 minutes ago, Roger Bissell said:

Just like the supposed rules of interaction here on OL and their Framer.

REB

?...  What does this mean exactly?

Rush Limbaugh: Trump beats Hillary  Like a drum.

Does the community-organizer-in-chief interfere with the election?  Rabble rousing? Riots?  Martial Law?  ... [ BAWD ]  (B Ayers wet dream)

here:  "Obama will Sabatoge Economy"  [love Drudge]

John Batchelor, Steven Moore, Larry Kudlow on Donald Trump

This is the most amazing campaign season.  The crime scene is America after the last few decades of American politics.  This election is all about the guy with the spray bottle and UV light.  All the blood splatters are shining bright...

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

A very, very inspiring message from Lynne Patton, a black female executive of the Trump Organization.

This is the kind of loyalty Trump's employees feel toward him.

Notice she mentioned he stood by her despite a problem with addiction. That one hits home to me...

Michael

Beautiful.

45 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Here's somebody else who thinks like I do, principles, Endless War and all:

Michael

Watched it twice, loved it.  Thanks Michael

23 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Robert,

Most of these people communicate with me privately. I bet all of them are reading this thread. (Hi, folks.  )

btw - There are not hoards of these people. Some...

The fact is they don't post much on this thread or anywhere else about Trump, if at all. And believe me, they exist. But I won't betray their privacy. I figure if any of them want their views made public in our subcommunity, they will post.

Take a look at how the anti-Trump people get bent out of shape all the time and you will see why they prefer not to discuss it in public. They just don't want the hassle. And some of them get pissed at the constant condescension--I know, they've told me. So they keep to themselves in public about Trump and I'm fine with it. As I've said, silencing people is not the same thing as getting them to agree. And I've also said, most Trump supporters are not angry people. These few, in particular, don't like the feeling of getting pissed from being goaded.

(I, on the other hand...   )

They may stay silent, but I bet you all of them vote... And they all have friends and families...

Michael

Michael,

I have a lot of things going on and don't get back here every day but I'll be happy to post part of an email I sent to you a couple of weeks ago:

" What I don't think exists are persuasive arguments in favor of Trump becoming our President. "

Given 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result'...

Perhaps the best argument is the people supporting Trump are not insane.

" There is nothing wrong with boasting and braggadocio. "

Of course not.  This is a year long job interview for the hardest job imaginable, particularly following BHO.  Self effacing certainly would not cut it no matter what your politics is.  Pardon me if I think to suggest otherwise is rhetorical bs.

I was distrusting of Trump earlier, after listening to several speeches and interviews in the last weeks and taking his business decisions in context I don't think he's a potential "Putin" as I stated earlier.  He's the best candidate left in the race in my opinion.  I support Trump presently.  Cruz is too clever by half.  I think he is disingenuous.  Watching him talk I would have a difficult time trusting him.  He is definitely no political outsider.  He is not above dirty tricks.  Crafty Cruzy?  Anything for the win is a leftist or insider tactic, I'm not interested.  Trump appears honest, most particularly when compared to all of the political hacks, regardless of whatever else you think of him.

"Trump is like the fabled Honey Badger of YouTube fame: he doesn’t give a shit."

This is very positive for Trump.  Like him or not it shows he has consistency, integrity over decades.  Surprised it comes from the NY Times.