Kimmler, At the heart of all scientist 'prime movers', whatever their beliefs,or their mixed premises, is a dedication to reality and reason. In my book, this defines them as small 'o' objectivists. Very simply, what Rand did was to congregate the very best of their rationality under one roof, so to speak. The influence of O'ism on all disciplines, science included, will take root in the near future for the simple reason that reality can't be escaped for long. Reading your snide little digs, it seems that you are laboring under a misapprehension - that Objectivists claim to be a superior race. It takes an egalitarian to be an elitist, imo,; and to be an elitist reveals the soul of a second hander, which is a small, mean, thing. Rational selfishness necessitates a life of self-made soul, of objective standards not dependent upon, or in competition with, the arbitrary standards of others. Tony At the heart of all scientist 'prime movers', whatever their beliefs,or their mixed premises, is a dedication to reality and reason. In my book, this defines them as small 'o' objectivists. So anyone "dedicated to reality and reason" is an objectivist with a small "o"? Talk about self-serving! That's right up there with Dorothy Sayers' quip that "All good work is Christian work." Very simply, what Rand did was to congregate the very best of their rationality under one roof, so to speak. And how did she do that? The influence of O'ism on all disciplines, science included, will take root in the near future for the simple reason that reality can't be escaped for long. I hear that often . . . but only from Objectivists. I also remember hearing the same thing over 30 years ago, and to date, the influence of Objectivism on any discipline -- science included -- has been nil. I suppose True Believers will then use Objectivism to explain the lack of Objectivism's influence by reference to a presumed irrationality of all parties concerned, including scientists. The pious belief that one's beloved philosophical system will change everyone's mind for the better "at some point in the indefinite future" is typical of cult worship, and is highly reminiscent of the way leftists in the 1930s believed that Marxism will bring the blessings of a socialist workers' paradise "sometime in the future." Most Objectivists I've encountered are mentally living in a utopian bubble called "Galt's Gulch" and are unwilling -- afraid, perhaps? -- to venture forth and live in the real world. it seems that you are laboring under a misapprehension - that Objectivists claim to be a superior race. They claim to be superior people irrespective of race. I haven't found a single exception to this on any of the Objectivist-related sites I've encountered. It's especially ludicrous because most Objectivists don't know much of anything: they know very little history; apart from Rand's works, they are quite illiterate in both literature and philosophy. Objectivism is a sort of easy substitute for real education (which makes it quite similar to other cult thought-systems). Rational selfishness necessitates a life of self-made soul, of objective standards not dependent upon, or in competition with, the arbitrary standards of others. Thanks for proving my point so quickly. Why would the standards of "others" necessarily be arbitrary? Why even assume that from the start? Answer: to make oneself appear superior.