PatriotResistance

Interesting. Human nature? Living in group? That makes me think of this progression: a rabbit has no right to not be eaten by a coyote, a human has no right to not be eaten by a bear, a group of humans has no right not to be swallowed up by an earthquake, but no human has a right to initiate force on another human. I don't know if that's what makes us human, but it is one thing that separates us from animals and nature. And so I think it is inherent - that rights then are inherent in what it means to be human. Does that make any sense? Now as far as the Declaration of Independence stating rights are granted by a creator, I came up with this recently: I think Jefferson was trying to be as all inclusive as his times would allow and none of them even considered including atheists. So my interpretation is that they thought ALL men believed they were created by some type of god somewhere, and as such rights ARE inherent to all men. Therefore, it is only a technicality that they used the words "their Creator". The intent of rights being inherent to all human life is what is important. Again, do you think that cup holds any water? Bob Galts Gulch Gifts

LOL My apologies. I assumed everyone here had been sworn in and given the secret handshake! Bob

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." My question concerns the "by their Creator" part of this quote from the Declaration of Independence. I assume Objectivists fully agree with the "created equal" and "unalienable Rights" phrases. Would an Objectivist easily substitute "nature" or "Objective Reality" for "their Creator"? Or something else? Or do Objectivists have an objection to the founding fathers attributing the source of unalienable Rights to a Creator? Bob

Reagan would have objected to a better tomorrow due to government. He was the one who said, "Government cannot solve your problems, government is the problem.". Could we teach kids to sing THAT? Bob

Many new products have been added to my Objectivism gallery on zazzle. I reworked the (in)famous Obama hope poster, I think it turned out well: Ayn Rand Reason poster See all of my Objectivist designs. Bob Galts Gulch Gifts

Greetings, New to this forum and would like to invite all to explore and comment on my Objectivist Designs. My Dollar Sign shirts seem to be especially popular. All zazzle products can be customized by the user - change the shirt style or color. Let me know if you have a design idea you would like to see. Bob Keller patriotresistance Not sure why links aren't working, here is the url: http://www.zazzle.com/patriot_resistance/gifts?cg=196302040358390306*