Ellen Stuttle

50 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

But to answer your question, William posted image links on OL to a forum called 8chan where they were hosted. 8chan later changed its name to 8kun and all previous links went to hell. William did not fix the links he posted to OL after they became broken. So now we have that beauty of a series of posts you found just sitting there not informing nobody of nothing.

Ah, broken links - the curse of the internet.

Sure robs William's snootily demeaning remarks about "Q" and "Qists" of effect, since readers can hardly be expected to sneer with him at blank rectangles.

Ellen

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Ellen,

The last Q drop was in 2020 - see here.

After that, […]

Michael,

Did you click on the link in my post?

It goes to one of William's posts where he copied Q "drops."

At this time all I see on those posts of William's is rectangles which are blank except for .png addresses - for instance q3218.png in the linked post.

I'm asking why the "drops" aren’t showing in William's posts.

Ellen

What's happened to all the Q "drops"?

See page 6, for instance:

https://www.objectivistliving.com/blogs/entry/756-in-the-matter-of-q/page/6/?tab=comments#comment-2738

Ellen

10 minutes ago, tmj said:

 

I would think one would have to be, yes ?

 

That's reassuring. LOL.

Ellen

10 minutes ago, tmj said:

the history of nation wide mail in balloting

What history of nation wide mail in balloting?  (You're being facetious, yes?)

Ellen

1 hour ago, william.scherk said:

The Church of QAnon: Will conspiracy theories form the basis of a new religious movement?
May 18, 2020 7.12am  EDT

I've been wondering if whoever started "Q" was taking a page from L. Ron Hubbard's book and setting out to found a religion.

Ellen

PS:  I haven't read the article yet.  I anticipate that it will be sneery and "sophisticated"-superior in tone.  I'm simply reacting to the article's title, which echoes my own question regarding "Q's" long-range intent.

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I have great affection for Bob. Even at his most Aspie. (He could be trying, though.  

Ditto.  And for the rest of your post, too.

I'll add that, frustrating though Bob can be to try to have a conversation with, he's contributed many little vignettes about scientific history and substance which I've found interesting to read for themselves.

Ellen

15 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

I hope [Bob's] ok.

Bob was exhibiting signs of Alzheimer's along with his characteristic Aspie obliviousness.  I started to wonder toward the end of last year if he'd died, and I took to periodically checking his User Profile to see if he'd signed in.  He did sign in on Thanksgiving Day, November 28, and then again on February 6.

Ellen

6 hours ago, Jonathan said:

You'd think that people who love science as much as Brad and Billy claim to...

Neither one of them has displayed an understanding of what science is and how it's done.  When Brad first showed up, I thought that he was engaging in a semi-sophisticated snow job effort with his lengthy, non-pertinent responses to your questions.  Now I think that he thought he was answering you.  The method of the response is something he could have mimicked from more skilled examples.  It's a common type of ploy which maybe he's too ignorant to realize is a ploy.  He's subsequently shown himself to be completely at a loss how to converse with you if he can't get you to agree on a particular declaration of fact from which he seems to think (wrongly) the conclusion that humans are driving climate with CO2 emissions follows.  And his describing science as "a set of observations":  A person with even minimal understanding of science isn't going to say that even writing in careless haste.

And William... forget about it.  He's shown himself for years to be so defective at scientific reasoning (since back when he was engaged in some discussion with Dennis May), I think there isn't a chance of his learning what testing an hypothesis requires.

Ellen

10 hours ago, Jonathan said:

..."it might cause more storms but with lesser intensity, or it might cause fewer storms with greater intensity, or neither, or...'

... but whichever it is, and however much trouble the details cause for our theory, humans are doing it and it's b-a-a-a-d.

Ellen

PS:  Oh, and "off by a country mile" counts as "pretty close" if we want it to.

RE ATMOSPHERIC CO2:
SUMMARY FOR OL READERS

Even if we - unreasonably - suppose that humans are responsible for the entire post-industrial increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration, and even if we - unreasonably - suppose that the post-industrial increase in "global mean surface temperature" is entirely caused by increased atmospheric CO2 concentration, there isn't any good reason to worry about the burning of fossil fuels, since the temperature increase has been small (at most about .8 Celsius degrees [1.5 Fahrenheit degrees]), increasing the temperature by the same amount again would require doubling the atmospheric CO2 concentration (which would need burning an awful lot of fossil fuels to accomplish), and meanwhile the increased atmospheric CO2 is beneficial to the plant life on which our lives ultimately depend.  In short, atmospheric CO2 alarm is misguided.

Now, the warming specifically of the Arctic might be cause for worry.  However, the details of CO2-as-driver theory don't do the job of explaining what's happening in the Arctic.  The anomaly distribution and warming patterns are discrepant with the theory - giving alarmists another headache (like "the hiatus") to scrabble to find ways to fit into their paradigm.

Ellen

17 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Anyway, it's easy to see number of points per poster over time, although I'm not sure what these points are (maybe likes).

The "Laugh" reaction counts as a point, since apparently it's meant by the web designers to indicate an approving, laughing-with laugh, not a derisive, laughing-at laugh.  By virtue of using the "Laugh" icon to indicate derision, Jon manages to make Brad look on the "Leaderboard" as if he has a high approval rating.

Ellen

14 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

btw - Fewer than 20 reads per post? Where did you get that stat? Educated guess? I don't know how to get views per post. I don't even get views per thread, although I might be able to find out where to turn that on in the backoffice. (For the record, your guess sounds good to me, maybe even a little high since this thread is in William's blog and, from a general impression I have garnered over time, blog threads on OL don't seem to get the same luv from the search engines that normal threads do.

Jon already answered how to get the views-per-post figure for this thread (for blog threads generally).

For threads on the main board, click on the forum heading. Views and number of posts are listed for each thread in a column to the right of the thread titles.

For instance, for the "McAfee" thread, click on "Stumping in the Backyard."  In the column to the right it says at this moment: 

21 replies, 194 views.

Ellen

On February 12, 2020 at 4:53 PM, tmj said:

People don't waste time lying about about the fate of the planet and how humanity can atone for it, they usually get something for it.

Why would someone pay a person who isn't even competent at basic logic to post to a non-receptive audience on a thread which averages fewer than 20 reads per post?  A waste of money.

Ellen

3 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

You really don’t understand the requirements of science at all, do you?

That's become painfully obvious.  What science education is coming to that we get something like Brad thinking he's being scientific.

Also:  Greenhouse gases don't "impede" energy transfer.  They act by re-radiation, not by interfering with convection.

Also:  MSK, I think that TMJ was being facetious.

Ellen

2 hours ago, bradschrag said:

You agreed Arrhenius hypothesized increasing co2 would cause warming. Do you agree that humans have increased co2 from 280-~415?

As I thought about the "Ergo" you're trying for.

Your trap has no teeth - but I think you don't know that.

Ellen

12 hours ago, bradschrag said:

Have humans driven concentrations from 285-~415?

The "Ergo" I think you're after doesn't follow.

Ellen

59 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

In other words, it's a test.

J,

I'm starting to wonder if we're wrong in thinking that Brad's maneuverings are designed to deceive. Maybe he's as clueless as he acts.  Like William's "Then it's fraud?" about the Arctic sea ice (however exactly William worded the question - I didn't check).

Ellen

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Of course [Brad] came here by invitation of Williiam.

Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's a personal friend of William's.  He could be just someone William encountered on the web.  I'm thinking that the relationship is closer than web acquaintances and that there's a Sir Galahad aspect in Brad's efforts.

Ellen

On February 4, 2020 at 7:39 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

[Brad's] here to convert the heathen and slay the resistant.

But why here?  A minor blog on a very small discussion forum?  My hunch is that it's personal - he's a friend of William's and is trying to rescue William from Jonathan's clutches.

Ellen

20 minutes ago, bradschrag said:

Perhaps time for self reflection if these are common responses to statements you make. Still waiting on evidence of your assertions, by the way.

Re the first sentence, I think you're probably the first person who's ever accused me of being a "conspiracy theorist" - and there was nothing in what I said which gave any plausible basis for the charge.  You might engage in self-reflection about why you promptly leveled it.

Re the second sentence, you'll have to go on waiting, since I'm not getting into a discussion of it here.  You could find plenty of comment on climate-related sites if you wanted to go looking.

I was doing two things with what I said: (1) giving you a bit of an alert if you were receptive, and (2) tangentially warning Jonathan against accepting your description of material you linked.  (J, "97%"  Similarities.)

Ellen

8 hours ago, Jonathan said:

 

Douschrag thinks that accusing others of being conspiracy theorists is a very powerful weapon. He does it often, even when it's clearly not applicable. One of us might even specifically note that we're having a bit of fun speculating, but, no matter, Douschrag has already been triggered, and cannot prevent himself from running to fetch and use his magic weapon. Devastating.

Yes, it's interesting how "conspiracy theory" has become an immediate code-language dismissal and equivalent to the accusation "You're a kook."

Ellen

1 hour ago, bradschrag said:

Arrhenius hypothesized early on (1895) ...

Arrhenius hypothesized as a musing maybe, a "what if," and he wrote a second paper with caveats pertaining to the effects of water vapor.  Humans-are-doing-it advocates who cite Arrhenius generally don't know (or, in some cases, deliberately misrepresent) what Arrhenius really said.

Also:  Calling a liar a liar does not a conspiracy theory make.

Ellen

1 hour ago, bradschrag said:

 

Humans perception isn't the best tool to pick up a signal like climate change that occurs so gradually, relative to our lifespans.

The original claim was catastrophic climate change which would be plenty obvious to everyone.  The Statue of Liberty in water up to her neck, the Houses of Parliament awash, etc.

Possibly unbeknownst to you, sources you're citing use jiggered stuff.  You seem to place much reliance on Gavin Schmidtt as a source.  Bad mistake.  He's one if the biggest cheaters-in-chief - and very skilled at his maneuvers.

Ellen

1 hour ago, Jon Letendre said:

Billy, why did you think [Brad] is knowledgeable or able to speak about any science at all?

As I've said before somewhere, William's bringing Brad aboard, apparently thinking that Brad could handle Jonathan's questions, is itself an example of William's incompetence.  Short form:  Willism didn't know better.

Ellen