SteveWolfer

Chris, no I don't remember Paul Eisen. I wasn't involved socially - I just took a couple of courses and read the books. Then I went deeply into computer programming and lost track of Objectivism entirely for several years. I was surprised when I heard of the split but it didn't hit me with the force it would have had I been actively part of the movement. It was much easier for me to think of it as part of their personal lives and if neither of them had changed their position on basic issues, it had nothing to do with me. I had moved to Los Angeles and didn't see Nathaniel again till I met him at a self-esteem intensive at his house in about 1972.

Michael, Robert, It is delightful to register as a new member knowing that some of my RoR posts were well received. I do appreciate that - it feels good to have others like something I wrote. Steve

Michael, Some one must have told you that I'm flattery-operated. (They were right. ;-) You certainly have made me feel welcome. Thank you for the kind words. Steve

Hi Chris, Thanks for the welcome. I became interested in Rand in the mid sixties. I first saw Nathaniel in San Franciso where he gave the opening Intro to Objectivism lecture from NBI. All long, long ago. I grew up in Wyoming, lived for many years in California, finished a 5 year contract in Hawaii and now I live in the Phoenix area.

Hi Kat, Michael, I've been here before as a guest and as soon as I registered I posted on a thread about individual rights. Thank you so much for the invitation to what appears to be a really nice site.

Hi Michael, This will be my first post on your site. It is nice to have already shown up here in your quote and your kind words. Thank you. My post that you refer to on RoR is very rough and incomplete. I'd say that the entire post is intended to be an argument that rights are moral and objective and not intrinsic. The section labeled "self interest and rights" is a side argument (the Trader principle) - not where I'd go as the primary argument.