Rand through a Nietzsche filter

9thdoctor · February 28, 2012

That would be yoga, Janet, of course. The Lotus, maybe.

However far Lenny’s fallen, Brant is still more likely to take his guidance than that of Loony Tunes Janet.

Meanwhile, ask yourself this. Who's gonna be your role model, Peikoff, or Papillon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOx_Uesp8tk

seymourblogger · February 28, 2012

Xray said,
Carol, remember that simply awful hat Fergie's daughter Beatrice was wearing at the Royal Wedding? This is among the most hideous headgear I've ever seen!
http://nowmagazine.m...-Beatrice15.jpg
Janet would probably call it a "postmodern" hat ...
lol it was nonlinear for sure!
Definitely nonlinear, no question.
X, if you get a kick out of Hideous Royal Fashion there is great stuff on the Royal Order of Sartorial Splendour, one of my fave brain relaxer sites,
Highly entertaining site, lol! What a bonanaza of royal attire, the gamut ranging from absolutely splendorous and tasteful to the absymal opposite ... !
I grew up with 'Royal gossip' so to speak: My mother was quite an eager yellow press reader, and thus I got quite acquainted, at a tender age, with pictures of Royals wearing their sparkling crowns. I especially liked the silk sashes adorning the ladies' evening dresses.
One of Mom's favorites was a non-Royal though (albeit she was of royal demeanor): the elegant and stylish Jackie Kennedy.
Mom did not speak English, and pronounced JK's first name as in German "Jacke", which phonetically converted "Jackie" into "Yucky".
You would simply not believe some of the stuff Queen Margrethe of Denmark wears in her hair. Let alone some of the dresses which she designs herself. She is an "arty" type queen.
The comments on that site are as hilarious as the pictures.
If you scroll down to about a third of the page, here's one of Margrethe wearing a hat which a blogger aptly called "an upturned oil funnel":
http://orderofsplend...ch/label/Hmm...
OMG, how did I miss that one. She looks like a Lego piece. (Are Legos Danish?)

Gee. Now we are talking about women's hats. How very feminist of you.

Michael Stuart Kelly · February 28, 2012

Get a load of this garbage from Seymourblogger at SLOP:

Seymourblogger']What darren did to you I did to a site administrator once. Provoke them into an intellectual corner they can't get out of. In their fury they will always ban you. It's because they refuse to consider the reasonable and the rational.
Then you can get to the real intention of what you want to do to them. It's taken me a year but I've ruined their site.

I seriously doubt the efficacy of what this woman says she did (she lives in a la-la land where she believes she makes people howl and fall on their knees in shame and so on), but there is no denying the intent.

It's funny how people like that bare their souls. She's not hiding what she wants to do.

She can't get anyone to take her seriously on her own blogs, so she trolls the Internet trying to find opportunities to destroy the work of other people. Her words, not mine: "It's taken me a year but I've ruined their site."

Sounds an awful lot like Elsworth Toohey to me. Except that dude could write, even if he is only a fictional character.

This poor soul thinks she will find good techniques for destructive mind-control in post-modern thinking. Those dudes are pikers compared to Bernays, Goebbels, Soros and others.

Ya' want nonlinear mind control outside "the dialectic"? Here's a true master, not those idiots spewing academic jargon:

(Turn on cc - captions - to get English subtitles.)

That produced results and still does. Not that snottiness crap from post-modern losers. Lots of people still study that film and you can see it in their work. I believe Mick Jagger even said he's seen it 15 times or so.

Michael

caroljane · February 28, 2012

Get a load of this garbage from Seymourblogger at SLOP:
Seymourblogger']What darren did to you I did to a site administrator once. Provoke them into an intellectual corner they can't get out of. In their fury they will always ban you. It's because they refuse to consider the reasonable and the rational.
Then you can get to the real intention of what you want to do to them. It's taken me a year but I've ruined their site.
I seriously doubt the efficacy of what this woman says she did (she lives in a la-la land where she believes she makes people howl and fall on their knees in shame and so on), but there is no denying the intent.
It's funny how people like that bare their souls. She's not hiding what she wants to do.
She can't get anyone to take her seriously on her own blogs, so she trolls the Internet trying to find opportunities to destroy the work of other people. Her words, not mine: "It's taken me a year but I've ruined their site."
Sounds an awful lot like Elsworth Toohey to me. Except that dude could write, even if he is only a fictional character.
This poor soul thinks she will find good techniques for destructive mind-control in post-modern thinking. Those dudes are pikers compared to Bernays, Goebbels, Soros and others.
Ya' want nonlinear mind control outside "the dialectic"? Here's a true master, not those idiots spewing academic jargon:
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BBfYncHshJc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
(Turn on cc - captions - to get English subtitles.)
That produced results and still does. Not that snottiness crap from post-modern losers. Lots of people still study that film and you can see it in their work. I believe Mick Jagger even said he's seen it 15 times or so.
Michael

What a weird world she lives in. What did she mean, "ruined their site"? Did she persuade everybody to stop reading it, or what?

Brant Gaede · February 28, 2012

She's actually damaging SOLO with her multiple nothing postings on multiple threads coupled with that horrible avatar Darren made to mock both her and that site.

--Brant

Ellen Stuttle · February 28, 2012

She's actually damaging SOLO with her multiple nothing postings on multiple threads coupled with that horrible avatar Darren made to mock both her and that site.
--Brant

She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.

Ellen

Michael Stuart Kelly · February 28, 2012

She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.

Ellen,

Absolutely correct.

But I suspect this increase will evaporate once Janet settles down or gets thrown off of SLOP or just gets too boring to sustain interest in her little show.

Regardless--whether the small boost in audience remains or doesn't--I'm happy OL has been useful to SLOP in its time of need.

Michael

Brant Gaede · February 28, 2012

She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.
Ellen,
Absolutely correct.
But I suspect this increase will evaporate once Janet settles down or gets thrown off of SLOP or just gets too boring to sustain interest in her little show.
Regardless--whether the small boost in audience remains or doesn't--I'm happy OL has been useful to SLOP in its time of need.

Michael

But now it's sloppier.

--Brant

maybe we should send over a CARE Package

PDS · February 28, 2012

She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.
Ellen,
Absolutely correct.
But I suspect this increase will evaporate once Janet settles down or gets thrown off of SLOP or just gets too boring to sustain interest in her little show.
Regardless--whether the small boost in audience remains or doesn't--I'm happy OL has been useful to SLOP in its time of need.

Michael
But now it's sloppier.
--Brant
maybe we should send over a CARE Package

I have an old copy of Leonard's "Principles of Grammar" I would be willing to donate.

Xray · February 28, 2012

Gee. Now we are talking about women's hats. How very feminist of you.

Nex time you'll be calling us closet-postmodernists, as we like transgressing the boundaries of serious discussion, seeking some comic relief.

Buillding a bridge back to Nietzsche's world should not be difficult though:

Hey, look at that daringly non-linear postmodern hat Queen Margrethe is wearing here!

http://orderofsplend...ch/label/Hmm...

No wouldn't that one also have looked great on - what was the name of Nietzsche's muse - Lou Salomé?

seymourblogger · February 29, 2012

Gee. Now we are talking about women's hats. How very feminist of you.
Nex time you'll be calling us closet-postmodernists, as we like transgressing the boundaries of serious discussion, seeking some comic relief. Buillding a bridge back to Nietzsche's world should not be difficult though: Hey, look at that daringly non-linear postmodern hat Queen Margrethe is wearing here! http://orderofsplend...ch/label/Hmm... No wouldn't that one also have looked great on - what was the name of Nietzsche's muse - Lou Salomé?

x-ray permanent truce if you want to translate Lou Salome's untranslated work. She is so great. How can you be German and be so unappreciative of Nietzsche and her. She was a woman who was never going to be able to put up with Nietzsche's problems and his awful sister and family. We are lucky we got his writings after he died but they wanted the money. What a blessing. Lou was a fine psychoanalyst BTW and refused to let Freud analyze her while studying with him in Vienna. Lived as a widow in War II sometimes without wood to heat her house. When she died the troops came in to raid her house for letters from Nietzsche but cool Lou had gotten them away long before. They didn't touch her during that time because of Nietzsche and their reverence for him. Nietzsche has just recovered his prominence from being tarred by the Nazi brush.

Baudrillard's comment on the third Reich was that maybe it existed and prevented something far worse. I think Stalin would have been. You?

Now I am being very forthright with you, sincere and I am wondering how you will return my honest words to me.

seymourblogger · February 29, 2012

She's actually damaging SOLO with her multiple nothing postings on multiple threads coupled with that horrible avatar Darren made to mock both her and that site. --Brant
She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens. Ellen

Quite astute Ellen Tuttle. Brant as usual is dead wrong. No intuition Brant.

seymourblogger · February 29, 2012

They never knew I did it while I was doing it, and they still don't know. And I still keep doing it to finish the job. The site was hurting someone I cared about. They wouldn't stop when explained it to them, so I stopped them. By ruin, I mean it cost them a whole lot of money and a lot in dropped revenues. They no longer make money on their site to the tune of what they used to.

Now if Rand were alive she would stop this. But she is dead and can't. So far I am not motivated to do it. But if I were you would never know it was happening or that it had happened. It would be very slow. Like a very slow fuck.

The Silent Destroyer!

George H. Smith · February 29, 2012

They never knew I did it while I was doing it, and they still don't know. And I still keep doing it to finish the job. The site was hurting someone I cared about. They wouldn't stop when explained it to them, so I stopped them. By ruin, I mean it cost them a whole lot of money and a lot in dropped revenues. They no longer make money on their site to the tune of what they used to.
Now if Rand were alive she would stop this. But she is dead and can't. So far I am not motivated to do it. But if I were you would never know it was happening or that it had happened. It would be very slow. Like a very slow fuck.
The Silent Destroyer!

Ghs

seymourblogger · February 29, 2012

They never knew I did it while I was doing it, and they still don't know. And I still keep doing it to finish the job. The site was hurting someone I cared about. They wouldn't stop when explained it to them, so I stopped them. By ruin, I mean it cost them a whole lot of money and a lot in dropped revenues. They no longer make money on their site to the tune of what they used to.
Now if Rand were alive she would stop this. But she is dead and can't. So far I am not motivated to do it. But if I were you would never know it was happening or that it had happened. It would be very slow. Like a very slow fuck.
The Silent Destroyer!
<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/lunatic/chanteburningham/Scary.gif?o=135" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/chanteburningham/Scary.gif" border="0"></a>
Ghs

How come your gifs don't slow my computer down the way others do? QUESTION!

Brant Gaede · February 29, 2012

They never knew I did it while I was doing it, and they still don't know. And I still keep doing it to finish the job. The site was hurting someone I cared about. They wouldn't stop when explained it to them, so I stopped them. By ruin, I mean it cost them a whole lot of money and a lot in dropped revenues. They no longer make money on their site to the tune of what they used to.
Now if Rand were alive she would stop this. But she is dead and can't. So far I am not motivated to do it. But if I were you would never know it was happening or that it had happened. It would be very slow. Like a very slow fuck.
The Silent Destroyer!
<a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/lunatic/chanteburningham/Scary.gif?o=135" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/chanteburningham/Scary.gif" border="0"></a>
Ghs
How come your gifs don't slow my computer down the way others do? QUESTION!

Grease.

--Brant

william.scherk · February 29, 2012

She's actually damaging SOLO with her multiple nothing postings on multiple threads coupled with that horrible avatar Darren made to mock both her and that site.
She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.

This sounds right, for a few reasons. Fresh hot vituperation sometimes spurts and flows, related to the large eruption in 2005, Perigo banished to solo passion with a few bitter cronies, MSK a-building, Joe Rowlands and the couch people sagging deeper into dullness.

Is there an internal rule of Objectivist partings-of-the-way, that any break or subordination comes with nasty effluvia? I know that when Comrade Doctor Diana was having her McCaskey false labour pains, even the normally slumbering Facebook community of Objective-ish came alive, seething and spitting, not to mention all the gnashing and gurning in the usual places.

From time to time wounds from the first SOLO open up, too. When schisms happen (even small peevish ones), I think a lot of folks do go gander, see who gets punished, see who wins or loses anything of value.

Heads thump into a basket, threads get expunged, commentators fall through the trapdoor and are gone. Human drama in all its splendour.

This time our zany Janet got sloppy, unwise and arrogant, got Linz riled, got sharp-toothed Creatures of the Swamp lumbering up onto his beach. He got even more riled at George from the Swamp's unanswerable take-downs -- and when Darren added his own gifts of vituperation, our Linz -- like our Phil, like any aging martinet with waning powers of persuasion -- performed the inevitable self-thwarting fit of amok. Another whack of the hatchet. Another thump in the basket.

Through it all our sweet bemused Janet rowing in circles, unable to form a credible tale of the people with whom she interacts, unable to discern personality, motivation, or decency in her interlocutors, rowing sometimes fast, sometimes slow, sometimes pausing to shout abuse at larger more purposeful boats.

Just think, six years and some months ago, we might have been able to fill a giant ballrooom with folks of the original SOLO. MSK, Perigo and Rowlands might have been able to croak out a few pleasantries about each other on mike from the dais. Barbara may have downed a few Martinis and dished in a corner of the balcony. Even Diana might have stood at the bar slugging vodka and moose milk and heckling.

As our host notes, aren't we happy to help SOLO get some extra eyes while the lava flows.

-- by the way, I think Ghs should receive a Carol-crafted award for his pithy response to Janet's mumble scary mumble very slow swamp fuck she is delivering to mumble mutter victory blah. It raised the hairs on my nape.

From the Swamp we came, to the Swamp we return, teeth sharpened anew. The first Swamp award must go to George H Smith for some fine work this week both in and out of the Swamp. When he does this to Unreason (I must use it somewhere as my avatar):

Edited March 1, 2012 by william.scherk

seymourblogger · March 1, 2012

Xray said,
Carol, remember that simply awful hat Fergie's daughter Beatrice was wearing at the Royal Wedding? This is among the most hideous headgear I've ever seen!
http://nowmagazine.m...-Beatrice15.jpg
Janet would probably call it a "postmodern" hat ...
lol it was nonlinear for sure!
Definitely nonlinear, no question.
X, if you get a kick out of Hideous Royal Fashion there is great stuff on the Royal Order of Sartorial Splendour, one of my fave brain relaxer sites,
Highly entertaining site, lol! What a bonanaza of royal attire, the gamut ranging from absolutely splendorous and tasteful to the absymal opposite ... !
I grew up with 'Royal gossip' so to speak: My mother was quite an eager yellow press reader, and thus I got quite acquainted, at a tender age, with pictures of Royals wearing their sparkling crowns. I especially liked the silk sashes adorning the ladies' evening dresses.
One of Mom's favorites was a non-Royal though (albeit she was of royal demeanor): the elegant and stylish Jackie Kennedy.
Mom did not speak English, and pronounced JK's first name as in German "Jacke", which phonetically converted "Jackie" into "Yucky".
You would simply not believe some of the stuff Queen Margrethe of Denmark wears in her hair. Let alone some of the dresses which she designs herself. She is an "arty" type queen.
The comments on that site are as hilarious as the pictures.
If you scroll down to about a third of the page, here's one of Margrethe wearing a hat which a blogger aptly called "an upturned oil funnel":
http://orderofsplend...ch/label/Hmm...
OMG, how did I miss that one. She looks like a Lego piece. (Are Legos Danish?)
Gee. Now we are talking about women's hats. How very feminist of you.

Actually I have to thank you for this hat thing. It has turned out perfectly. Princess Beatrice wore a hat that was more hat than a hat. It was "worse" than a hat, an "obscene" hat. More so.

This is what I have been saying over and over because no one gets it, yet you bring up an image that says it so perfectly. Beatrice's hat. Making fun of "hatdom", making fun of royal rituals that are silly. Most women opt for a pretty flattering hat to go along with the flow. But not our Princess Beatrice. After all Fergie is her mother! She kicked over a few traces eh.Nice model mother.

Now why didn't she behave like a normal person? Wear a pretty hat with flowers on it, pretty colors, pretty on her hair, her face framed prettily. The ladies here would have been happy instead of groaning over it because the ladies here are very normal, very conditioned, very good little girls who don't jump over the traces.

Good girls don't make history.

Rand was not a good girl. What a blessing I say. What a pity these ladies would say, had they been around when Rand was younger.

seymourblogger · March 1, 2012

She's spiking SOLO's readership because people from here who weren't paying any attention to SOLO are looking to see what happens.
Ellen,
Absolutely correct.
But I suspect this increase will evaporate once Janet settles down or gets thrown off of SLOP or just gets too boring to sustain interest in her little show.
Regardless--whether the small boost in audience remains or doesn't--I'm happy OL has been useful to SLOP in its time of need.

Michael

BOOOO! Brant opines that I waste posts. I do waste them. It's fun. What do I mean when I waste a post? Any theories?

Michael Stuart Kelly · March 1, 2012

As Canetti says in his book on Power,and Groups, every group's goal in to increase.

On this point, if that is what Canetti really said, he was full of it.

Michael

George H. Smith · March 1, 2012

BOOOO! Brant opines that I waste posts. I do waste them. It's fun. What do I mean when I waste a post? Any theories?

Because a wheel has fallen off your shopping cart, making it impossible for you to go anywhere, so you have nothing better to do than write pointless posts?

Just a postmodernist guess.

Ghs

Brant Gaede · March 1, 2012

BOOOO! Brant opines that I waste posts. I do waste them. It's fun. What do I mean when I waste a post? Any theories?
Because a wheel has fallen off your shopping cart, making it impossible for you to go anywhere, so you have nothing better to do than write pointless posts?
Just a postmodernist guess.
Ghs

She's also premodern.

--Brant

Xray · March 1, 2012

x-ray permanent truce if you want to translate Lou Salome's untranslated work.

Janet,

1) I have never had the feeling of being "at war" with you, which makes the term "truce" a non-issue.

2) As for translations: they are normally done by native speakers from the foreign language into their native language.

That is, you would have to ask a native speaker of English to do the job of translating Lou Salomé's unpublished work.

3) Aside from being no native speaker of English, doing translations in general does not give me a feeling of pleasure.

So if I translate, it is nearly always out of necessity for a specific reason, like e. g. explaining a German phrase in an English-speaking forum for clarification purposes.

She is so great. How can you be German and be so unappreciative of Nietzsche and her.

I'm not a 'tribalistic' type. I think of myself primarily as an inhabitant of the world, especially in these internet days of global communication.

Xray · March 2, 2012

Actually I have to thank you for this hat thing. It has turned out perfectly. Princess Beatrice wore a hat that was more hat than a hat. It was "worse" than a hat, an "obscene" hat. More so.
This is what I have been saying over and over because no one gets it, yet you bring up an image that says it so perfectly. Beatrice's hat. Making fun of "hatdom", making fun of royal rituals that are silly.

By claiming that Beatrice was "making fun of royal rituals", you are doing precisely that against which you have been arguing here in numerous posts: you are interpreting, and what you interpret is tainted by the 'postmodern glasses' you seem to be wearing all the time.

So unless there exists convincing evidence of Beatrice being a 'post-modern rebel' (for the mere wearing of this hat does not qualify as sufficient evidence), your comments are a mere personal interpretation. I suppose Foucault would have agreed.

Now why didn't she behave like a normal person? Wear a pretty hat with flowers on it, pretty colors, pretty on her hair, her face framed prettily. The ladies here would have been happy instead of groaning over it because the ladies here are very normal, very conditioned, very good little girls who don't jump over the traces.

See above. You are interpreting again.

Your interpretation can be countered with other interpretations; so again, I ask you where is your additional evidence?

Xray · March 2, 2012

Baudrillard's comment on the third Reich was that maybe it existed and prevented something far worse. I think Stalin would have been. You?

Both Hitler and Stalin were abysmal monsters. Which is why it makes no sense positioning one over the other as the "lesser evil".

Rand through a Nietzsche filter

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