Run Hillary Run - Still an outside possibility

[Selene]

Oh my!!

 

If we've lost Mika "Pre-frontal Lobotomy*" Brzezinski,

 

 

*rumor has it that Dr. Carson has the other half of her brain.

 

A...

[Selene]

It's beginning to look a lot like 1968 again...

With Biden, the Dumbest Vice President in US history, drawing 9 %, 53 % oppose Evita in NH...

Evita's staff has emergency meeting in Brooklyn....

Sanders’ rise has been meteoric. The socialist senator trailed Clinton by a 44-8 margin in a Franklin Pierce/Herald poll in March.

More than half of New Hampshire’s likely Democratic primary voters say they view Sanders “very” favorably, an indication of the excitement the Vermont senator has generated among his mostly liberal supporters.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/08/pdf_official_franklin_pierce_boston_herald_poll_documents

A...

[Selene]

Good grief...

What hasn't been released: data that could show how secure her system was, whether someone tried to break in, and who else had accounts on her system. A lawyer for Platte River Networks, a Colorado-based technology services company that began managing the Clinton server in 2013, said the server was provided to the FBI last week.

Indeed, many physical details of the server remain unknown, such as whether its data was backed up. In March, The Associated Press discovered that her server traced back to an Internet connection at her home in Chappaqua, New York.

A computer server isn't a marvel of modern technology. Just like a home desktop, the computer's data is stored on a hard drive. It's unclear whether the drive that Clinton used was thoroughly erased before the device was turned over to federal agents.

If it had been, it's also uncertain whether the FBI could recover the data. Clinton's lawyer has used a precise term, "wiped," to describe the deleted emails, but it was not immediately clear whether the server had been wiped. Such a process overwrites deleted content to make it harder or impossible to recover.

Kendall, her attorney, could be in serious trouble having possession of that thumb drive.

Additionally, a lot of folks are not as technologically aware of how large an exposure Evita has.

Investigators who examine her server might find all sorts of information — how it was configured, whether it received necessary security updates to fix vulnerabilities in software, or whether anyone tried to access it without permission.

Running a server is akin to her messages being stored inside an office file cabinet. But while a file cabinet only yields the documents stored inside, a server can also offer information about the use of that data over time: Who had access to the filing cabinet? Did anyone try to pick the lock? Did the owner attempt to alter the files in any way? And who was given keys to the building in the first place?

Since her server was first installed in 2009, it most likely used a traditional hard disk-based device rather than a newer solid state unit that only has become commonly used in the last two or three years, said computer scientist Darren Hayes. Solid state drives, until recently, were much more expensive than their counterparts for storing lots of data.

Forensics experts would then have an easier time retrieving erased data because such older, disk-based servers are not as efficient in deleting material, said Hayes, assistant professor and director of cybersecurity at Pace University's School of Computer Science and Information Systems in New York.

"A hard disk drive is very difficult to manipulate," he said. "Once you get your hands on a hard drive, there's a lot you can recover."

Even after files are marked for deletion on a disk, Hayes said, their contents remain on the drive and can be retrieved. Even if the full file is gone, fragments can be pulled off the drive. Sometimes a complete email file even can be found inside other files marked for deletion.

Clinton said in March that she had exchanged about 60,000 emails during her four years in the Obama administration, about half of which were personal and deleted. She turned over the others to the State Department, which is reviewing and releasing them on a monthly basis.

Last month, the inspector general for the nation's intelligence community warned that some of the information that passed through Clinton's server was classified information.

It's generally not possible to forward or cut-and-paste an email marked classified to a private account because classified email systems are closed to outsiders. But it can be illegal to paraphrase or retype classified information from a secure email into an unprotected message sent to a personal address.

Hayes said forensics experts could, in most cases, determine whether the server used encryption to transmit emails, which would be important in learning whether her occasional email discussions of classified and sensitive matters might have been vulnerable to hackers and snooping by foreign governments.

The server's internal registry could also provide hints of whether hackers penetrated the server's security.

"They may have deleted a lot of data, but there's a lot of data that a good forensics team would be able to recover," he said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150818/us--dem_2016-clinton-server-10f6c0805c.html

[Mikee]

[little old lady cackling "guillotine, guillotine" while doing her knitting, waiting for HRC to be brought out]

[What movie was that from?]

[Selene]

I hope everyone heard Evita's throwing away about 20-25 % of the black vote...

 

Time to hammer her into a flat stain on history...

 

At about 00:40 into this is where she gets upset...

 

 

 

A...

 

[Brant Gaede]

And the white vote and the Hispanic vote?

--Brant

I still think she needs a wooden stake through the heart and her head chopped off in her daily coffin (they must keep one on her airplane)

hey!--it worked with Dracula

[Brant Gaede]

Why do I like Hillary?

No matter what I say about her I could give a fuck what she would feel if she read or heard it.

--Brant

too much empathy problemo, but not with her

[9thdoctor]

[little old lady cackling "guillotine, guillotine" while doing her knitting, waiting for HRC to be brought out]

[What movie was that from?]

Are you thinking of A Tale of Two Cities, Madame Defarge? In which case, who's HRC?

And the white vote and the Hispanic vote?

--Brant

I still think she needs a wooden stake through the heart and her head chopped off in her daily coffin (they must keep one on her airplane)

hey!--it worked with Dracula

Look out man, you're going to get on a watchlist!

http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/12/reasons-subpoena-popehat

Whatever you do, don't say "woodchipper"...

[Mikee]

[little old lady cackling "guillotine, guillotine" while doing her knitting, waiting for HRC to be brought out]

[What movie was that from?]

Are you thinking of A Tale of Two Cities, Madame Defarge? In which case, who's HRC?

No...this is the historical reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricoteuse

But there was comedy I believe, with a little old lady knitting and cackling "guillotine! guillotine!". Probably decades ago but it popped in my head thinking of HerLIAR RodDAMN Clinton or, HRC.

[Jules Troy]

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many " friends " of the Clintons.

1 - James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena , Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena, Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 - Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

3 2 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes".

33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds

38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley

39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

40 - Major General William Robertson

41 - Col. William Densberger

42 - Col. Robert Kelly

43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

44 - Steve Willis

45 - Robert Williams

46 - Conway LeBleu

47 - Todd McKeehan

With friends like that...

[Mikee]

At least they don't use anti-aircraft weapons and tie people up first.

[Selene]

I cannot conceive that she will avoid at least an indictment.

Where it goes from there, no one can predict at this point.

The general cut a deal, I am sure she will also.

A...

[william.scherk]

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many " friends " of the Clintons.

1 - James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

[...]

47 - Todd McKeehan

With friends like that...

Sounds like a chain-letter. And of course, it has a Snopes entry ...

[Jules Troy]

I still find it an oddity the number of people Bill even if the causes were accidental or self inflicted. Is this a common thing among other past leaders?

[william.scherk]

Jules, please take the time to read the Snopes "Body-count" entry. I won't reproduce the whole thing, as it is very long and involved, but here is just a sample:

A 2007 version of the "Clinton Body Count" list was headed with this entry:

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

James McDougal, a key witness for Whitewater prosecutors when the investigation centered on an Arkansas land deal in which the president and McDougal were involved, had a pre-existing heart condition and died of a heart attack on 8 March 1998 while in solitary confinement at the Federal Medical Center prison in Fort Worth. The ailing McDougal had been placed in solitary as punishment for failing to provide a urine sample for a drug test. On the day before his death and while still in his regular cell (where he had access to his heart medications), he had complained of dizziness, and while being processed for isolation he threw up. However, once in isolation, he did not ask for his medicines and appeared to guards "alert, well-oriented and absent any visible signs of distress" right up until his death. An investigation into the circumstances of his demise did not find evidence of foul play.

(The McDougal entry was not part of the "Clinton Body Count" list as it circulated in 1998.)

1. Mary Mohane - former White House intern gunned down in a coffee shop. Nothing was taken. It was suspected that she was about to testify about sexual harassment at the White House.

Former White House intern Mary Caitrin Mahoney, 25, manager of a Georgetown Starbucks, was killed along with two co-workers (Emory Allen Evans, 25, and Aaron David Goodrich, 18) on 6 July 1997 during a robbery of the shop. In March 1999, Carl Derek Havord Cooper (29) of Washington was arrested and charged with these murders.

Yes, it is unusual that three employees were killed in the course of a robbery during which nothing was taken. According to Cooper's 26 April 2000 guilty plea (he received life with no hope of parole), he went to the Starbucks to rob the place, figuring the receipts from the July 4 weekend would make for a fat take. He came in after closing, waved a .38, and ordered all three Starbucks employees into the back room. Once there, Mahoney made a run for it after Cooper fired a warning shot into the ceiling. She was ordered back to the room, but then went for the gun. Cooper shot her, then afterwards shot the other two employees. He left empty-handed, afraid the shots had attracted police attention. As regrettable as these three deaths were, this was nothing but a case of a robbery gone wrong.

And, right away, we have come to the first big lie of the "Clinton Body Count" list: Any unexplained death can automatically be attributed to President Clinton by inventing a connection between him and the victim. Mary Mahoney did once work as an intern at the White House, but so have hundreds of other people who are all still alive. There is no credible reason why, of all the interns who have served in the Clinton White House, Mahoney alone would be the target of a Clinton-directed killing. (Contrary to public perception, very few interns work in the West Wing of the White House or have any contact with the President. The closest most interns get to the chief executive is a single brief handshake or group photo.)

The putative reason offered for Mahoney's slaying, that she was about to testify about sexual harrassment in the White House, was a lie. This absurd justification apparently sprang from a hint dropped by Mike Isikoff of Newsweek just before the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke that a "former White House staffer" with the initial "M" was about to talk about her affair with Clinton. We all know now, of course, that the "staffer" referred to was Monica Lewinsky, not Mary Mahoney. The conspiracy buffs maintained that White House hit men rushed out, willy-nilly, and gunned down the first female ex-intern they could find whose name began with "M."

Finally, yes, there is Bush Death List ...

Edited August 19, 2015 by william.scherk

[Selene]

Evita needs to not do any more "press conferences."
 

She tries a variation of the Sandler "dummy curve," which fails. She then explains that she don't no nothin about birthin no babies...*

 

 

A...

 

*think Butterfly McQueen...

 

 

This would really piss me off if I were a black kid of ten (10) or (12) sitting in a "coloreds only" theatre in Georgia in 1940.

 

A...

[Selene]

McQueen is quite interesting.

In 1989, the Freedom From Religion Foundation honored her with its Freethought Heroine Award. "I'm an atheist," she had declared, "and Christianity appears to me to be the most absurd imposture of all the religions, and I'm puzzled that so many people can't see through a religion that encourages irresponsibility and bigotry." She told a reporter[8] "As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion." This quote was used by the Freedom From Religion Foundation in advertisements inside Madison, Wisconsin, buses in 2009[9] and in an Atlanta market in 2010.[10][11]

She lamented that, had humans put the energy on earth and on people that had been put on mythology and on Jesus Christ, there would be less hunger and homelessness. "They say the streets are going to be beautiful in Heaven. Well, I’m trying to make the streets beautiful here ... When it’s clean and beautiful, I think America is heaven. And some people are hell."[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_McQueen

[Selene]

Apparently, Evita's firm in Colorado, that "secures/secured" her server, occupied a loft apartment that had been converted into an office.

Within the office, the server was stored in the closet of a bathroom which is like throwing raw meat into today's media sea.

[merjet]

About that tripe titled It Takes a Village.

[Mikee]

Psychologists call these people “Machiavellians”

..."researchers said they found that Machiavellians’ brains went into overdrive when they encountered a partner who exhibited signs of being fair and cooperative. Why? Tamas Bereczkei and his team say it’s because the Machiavellians are immediately figuring out how to exploit the situation for their own gain."

[Brant Gaede]

quote

Yes, it is unusual that three employees were killed in the course of a robbery during which nothing was taken. According to Cooper's 26 April 2000 guilty plea (he received life with no hope of parole), he went to the Starbucks to rob the place, figuring the receipts from the July 4 weekend would make for a fat take. He came in after closing, waved a .38, and ordered all three Starbucks employees into the back room. Once there, Mahoney made a run for it after Cooper fired a warning shot into the ceiling. She was ordered back to the room, but then went for the gun. Cooper shot her, then afterwards shot the other two employees. He left empty-handed, afraid the shots had attracted police attention. As regrettable as these three deaths were, this was nothing but a case of a robbery gone wrong.

end quote

That's offensive, William. You're not meaning it to be only makes it worse. You're using "nothing" to cover up something--something else than "a case of a robbery gone wrong."

Brant

[william.scherk]

That's offensive, William. You're not meaning it to be only makes it worse. You're using "nothing" to cover up something--something else than "a case of a robbery gone wrong."

Brant

I have edited the post above, added a quote enclosure to the analysis you seem to have attributed to me instead of to the Snopes contributor who wrote it.

-- when I offset by indents after indicating an off-site source/following a URL link, the offset material is taken from the source. I can't answer for the Snopes contributor's language, and prefer not to argue semantics on her behalf.

I hope you take the time to read the full debunking. There is a lot of lurid nonsense floating around the internet. This is but one example.

Edited August 19, 2015 by william.scherk

[Brant Gaede]

Sorry.

I clicked on the link. I stopped reading it when I read about JFK jr dying in that plane crash.

I'm a pilot. Once I regularly flew my flying club aircraft out of the same New Jersey airport--Caldwell--he departed from. When earning my private license my instructor deliberately (and illegally) took the Cessna 172 into the clouds and told me to fly on instruments. I couldn't do it the first time. My body was screaming don't do! what my mind was saying do instead, looking at the instruments. I was suffering from complete spatial disorientation. We were in a climbing right turn near a stall and maybe a spin. (I've also spun a 172 twice--same instructor.)

That's what happened to JFK jr. Not enough training. Flying at night and over water too boot. He lost control of his twin-engined airplane and killed himself and his passengers not realizing the situation could be saved simply by letting go of the controls if the craft was properly trimed for the power setting as it damn well should have been. You see, if you let go of the controls you feel you're letting go of your salvation and salvation comes from magnifying your control inputs according to what your body feels. You die in a panic of why oh why aren't the inputs doing what my body says they should be doing? Not enough input!--input more inputs or die!

So, my unscientific conclusion is the site is crap.

--Brant

when I know what I'm talking about I'm worth reading

[william.scherk]

Sorry.

I clicked on the link. I stopped reading it when I read about JFK jr dying in that plane crash. [...]

So, my unscientific conclusion is the site is crap.

This stumped me for a minute, until I realized you were not talking about the Snopes debunking. There is no mention of the JFK Jr crash on the Snopes Clinton Body Bag page . So, excellent and interesting as your comments about small planes and crashes were, I couldn't connect them to the Snopes analysis I linked to. Silly me not immediately grasping that you had followed the link to the Bush Body Bag whoopee site, where JFK Jr being offed by the gang was suggested.

Snopes is a lint trap, filter, a summary of investigation, an aid to good cognitive housekeeping. To better answer Jules' note about coincidence vs conspiracy, I'd have to take time off from work and come back later. So I chose to point to somebody who had collated a lot of information and put it to rational tests. As you discovered at the whoopee site, the Clintons no more rubbed out masses of inconvenient people than did the Bushes.

If there was a further unspoken caution in my "go see Snopes" suggestion -- in the context of Hillary Clinton scandals -- it's that besides the urban legend are much better points of attack, that can move the needle among possible Clinton supporters.

Clinton must face the real scandals of her career and ambitions, I think. She must face the harsh scrutiny that is top-level US politics. Those who seek to block her from the White House have better dossiers than the loopy stuff of the hit list -- those are the dossiers will convince Clinton supporters to move their votes elsewhere -- while already anti-Hillary folks don't need the bogus hit list to oppose her in the first place. I just think it's in the non-starter class, with no power to move the needle at all.

Even the harshest critics of Hillary from here until Doomsday will avoid mentioning body bag nonsense, concentrating on plausible or probable malfeasance, eg, Benghazi, Emailgate -- and the menace of her policies. While piling on real baggage and its persistent stink.

Here's a horrible thought. Somehow she will weather the stink and smell of the many real scandals and pull off the Democratic nomination. Then opponents should beware the big old dog himself stumping for his wife. There's a guy who knows how to face down scandal; whether blowjob or body bag. A formidable campaigner, with perhaps some ambition to be First Gentleman.

It's still such early days. The rotting old Sea Hag might still be afloat on August 19, 2016.

I now take a vow of silence on US presidential politics until after a new Parliament is returned in Canada October 19, 2015. I will watch the rest of our campaign wondering if Stephen Harper will ride out the scandal of the Duffy Affair.**

--Brant

when I know what I'm talking about I'm worth reading

You are always worth reading to me, Brant, even if only sometimes as a flint.

___________________________________

Mike Duffy, a former political correspondent on Canadian TV, was appointed to the Senate. Although he maintained an Ottawa-area home, he was appointed to represent Prince Edward Island. He did a bit of dodgy expensing and is now on trial for accepting a bribe from the prime minister's then chief-of-staff. The question is as always, who knew what when, and who knew of the coverup ... in this case, the expenses were paid out of pocket by the PM's chief of staff, supposedly without the PM's knowledge. 90 thousand dollars changed hands.

As with all scandals, the details of the executive's scramble to look good and deny wrongdoing are fascinating. When a president or prime minister's upper-level staff massage the message and manipulate actors (Senate, auditors, hidden networks of influence) behind the scenes, all to keep the party and the leader looking clean ... this is fine meat to a political gourmand. You can imagine how much time the media is devoting to the bribery trial. And how well or badly the PM is handling daily queries from the media about his clean white hands.

Revelations! Pay-offs! Intrigue!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Edited August 20, 2015 by william.scherk

[Jules Troy]

Hey Bill, stayyyyy liquid Canada is in for a bumpy ride regardless of who wins the election....