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Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:48 AM

I can’t say I have a taste for this kind of music, and it just sounds like warmed over 1990’s Nine Inch Nails to me, but who knows? This guy may be the next Neil Peart. Except Peart wrote his own words…never mind, this is at least good for a laugh.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:07 AM

I like this song!

As for genre, its electro-industrial with hip-hop influences... I wouldn't call it dubstep. Then again "dubstep" is a pretty flexible genre...

This song reminds me of a band I've been listening to a lot recently; Binary Park.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:06 PM

Sounds like something a dentist would be listening to while doing a root canal.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:28 PM

Sounds like something a dentist would be listening to while doing a root canal.

Lol, that comes pretty close. :D
Rapper Riggenbach's deep, thundering voice is quite impressive I must say. As a kid, I always imagined fairy tale figure Rübezahl having a voice like that ... :smile:

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:13 PM

As a kid, I always imagined fairy tale figure Rübezahl having a voice like that ... :smile:

Hmm, that's one that didn't make it into the Brothers Grimm, I take it.

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In legends Rübezahl is a capricious giant, gnome or mountain spirit. With good people he is friendly, he teaches medicine and gives presents. If someone derides him, however, his revenge is severe. He sometimes plays the role of a trickster in folk talkes.


JR evokes the emotional subtext of The State perfectly, just those two words are rich with multiple meanings. Time for an adjective contest, it's condemnatory, mocking, indignant, premonitory...c'mon folks, help me out here...
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:33 PM

chilling, cold, inhuman, primitive...
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:57 PM

chilling, cold, inhuman, primitive...


The first three are true and obviously a deliberate stylistic choice... but primitive?

I make electronic music. It isn't "primitive" or "simple" or "dumb" and anyone that says so clearly has no experience trying to make it.
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:12 PM

chilling, cold, inhuman, primitive...


The first three are true and obviously a deliberate stylistic choice... but primitive?

I make electronic music. It isn't "primitive" or "simple" or "dumb" and anyone that says so clearly has no experience trying to make it.



primitive to me conjurs "a deep savage imprinting," a better word would be "primal."
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 05:39 AM



As a kid, I always imagined fairy tale figure Rübezahl having a voice like that ... :smile:

Hmm, that's one that didn't make it into the Brothers Grimm, I take it.
http://en.wikipedia....g/wiki/Rübezahl In legends Rübezahl is a capricious giant, gnome or mountain spirit. With good people he is friendly, he teaches medicine and gives presents. If someone derides him, however, his revenge is severe. He sometimes plays the role of a trickster in folk talkes.

Rübezahl is not in Grimm's fairy tales. It is more a regional folk legend/tale, which then became well-known all over Germany.
Among the things Rübezahl was known for was his thundering, mocking laugh.

I went by pure phonetics only when listening to JR's voice and must admit I didn't really listen to the text (I have the habit of hardly ever listening to song texts, no matter what their 'message' - with very few exceptions, like Bob Dylan's anti-war song Masters of War or John Lennon's atheistic peace song Imagine).

But I have now listened to the text also and find it quite 'demonizing' in connection with the music. It evokes the image of "The State" as a demonic, greedy, monster feeding on the taxes robbed from its citizens, so to speak. But since this is how libertarian anarchists do see the state, there is no contradiction contained in the message. :smile:

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:49 AM

chilling, cold, inhuman, primitive...


The first three are true and obviously a deliberate stylistic choice... but primitive?

I make electronic music. It isn't "primitive" or "simple" or "dumb" and anyone that says so clearly has no experience trying to make it.


The idea was to list adjectives (or wouldn’t it be adverbs, D’oh!) describing the way JR says the words The State. Not describing the music.
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:48 AM


chilling, cold, inhuman, primitive...


The first three are true and obviously a deliberate stylistic choice... but primitive?

I make electronic music. It isn't "primitive" or "simple" or "dumb" and anyone that says so clearly has no experience trying to make it.


The idea was to list adjectives (or wouldn’t it be adverbs, D’oh!) describing the way JR says the words The State. Not describing the music.


Yep, you were clear, that is why I listed single words in sequence...lol.

Did you expect the OL cats to follow your clear lead?
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 03:42 PM

JR evokes the emotional subtext of The State perfectly, just those two words are rich with multiple meanings. Time for an adjective contest, it's condemnatory, mocking, indignant, premonitory...c'mon folks, help me out here...

"Sardonic" maybe?

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 05:08 PM


JR evokes the emotional subtext of The State perfectly, just those two words are rich with multiple meanings. Time for an adjective contest, it's condemnatory, mocking, indignant, premonitory...c'mon folks, help me out here...

"Sardonic" maybe?

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[edit] Etymology

French sardonique < Latin sardonius < Ancient Greek σαρδόνιος (sardonios), alternative form of σαρδάνιος (sardanios, “bitter or scornful laughter”), which is often cited as deriving from the Sardinian plant (Ranunculus sardous), known as either σαρδάνη (sardanē) or σαρδόνιον (sardonion). When eaten, it would cause the eater's face to contort in a look resembling scorn (generally followed by death). It might also be related to σαίρω (sairō, “I grin”). [edit] Adjective

sardonic (comparative more sardonic, superlative most sardonic)
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