John Day Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 This is my first post, I'm fascinated by Ayn Rand and her philosophy and what to gain further understandings.
Selene Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Welcome John Day:Are you a student or a working slave for O'bama?Who or what introduced you to Rand?I have found this OL forum to be exceptionally challenging, informative and fun.Adam
galtgulch Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) This is my first post, I'm fascinated by Ayn Rand and her philosophy and what to gain further understandings.Welcome to OL. I wonder how you discovered Ayn Rand and her philosophy? Care to share any thoughts about what you think of Objectivism and any concerns you may have about the direction of our society?www.campaignforliberty.com 193,023, 193,363, 193,495, 193,678, 193,763, 193,797, 193,965, 194,002, 194,110, 194,143, 194,186, 194,237, 194,274, 194,299, 194,322, 194,853, 195,789, 196,082, 196,836, 196,848, 197,905, 198,040, 198,182 membersgaltgulch aka gulchAddendum, John, I hope you are enjoying your visits here. This is one of several sites I check out each day. Ayn Rand wrote four novels and published a journal called The Objectivist Newsletter in which she had an Intellectual Ammunition Dept and a book review back in the mid sixties. I found out about her in 1968 and subscribed. Ayn Rand recommended works by Ludwig von Mises, an economist of the Austrian School, which sought to understand how the market place operates when the govt just makes sure contracts are abided by and no one initiates force or fraud! and where the medium of exchange and store of value is sound, as in the choice of the market over the centuries: gold and silver coins.Ron Paul, Republican congressman from Texas, also rec Mises' books, loyalty to the Constitution, sound money, and he founded the Campaign For Liberty. In an article in Freedom Daily in Jan 09 publ by the Future of Freedom Foundation, the work of Jacob Hornberger, an Objectivist, I learned that after "we" beat the British, the thirteen colonies became thirteen independent sovereign states, with no federal govt. However some people who had borrowed gold coins had signed contracts to repay in gold. But many of them approached their state govt and pleaded for an issuance of a paper currency and a law to change the gold clause to enable them to repay in paper!Their creditors decided to form a federal govt, with limited powers, over the states with provisions to forbid such ex post facto laws and to hold only gold and silver coins as legal tender! See Articles 1 Sections 8 and 10.www.fff.orgwww.fee.orgwww.atlassociety.orghttp://www.investmentrarities.com/www.mises.comwww.cafehayek.comhttp://www.lfb.org/product_info.php?products_id=291Enjoy Edited August 12, 2009 by galtgulch
Chris Grieb Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 Welcome John. I think you'll find OL interesting.
John Day Posted August 6, 2009 Author Posted August 6, 2009 Thanks for the welcome, everyone! It's hard for me to say how exactly I was introduced to Rand because no one ever recommended her novels to me and Objectivism was certainly never covered in any of my philosophy classes (to be fair, almost no 20th Century philosophy was). The earliest I can remember reading about Ayn Rand was after she was my top choice in a quiz on ethical philosophy. I liked her emphasis on individualism and her like of strong, rational men but at the time I was put off by her atheism. I've had a casual awareness of Ayn Rand for some years, but I wasn't quite motivated to read her novels until fairly recently. In the last few months, I've read The Fountainhead, We The Living and will be starting Atlas Shrugged shortly. What I love about Ayn Rand's philosophy is that it provides a code of morality existing outside of blind faith, breaking free of the false choice of religion vs. subjectivism.
Selene Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Thanks for the welcome, everyone! It's hard for me to say how exactly I was introduced to Rand because no one ever recommended her novels to me and Objectivism was certainly never covered in any of my philosophy classes (to be fair, almost no 20th Century philosophy was). The earliest I can remember reading about Ayn Rand was after she was my top choice in a quiz on ethical philosophy. I liked her emphasis on individualism and her like of strong, rational men but at the time I was put off by her atheism. I've had a casual awareness of Ayn Rand for some years, but I wasn't quite motivated to read her novels until fairly recently. In the last few months, I've read The Fountainhead, We The Living and will be starting Atlas Shrugged shortly. What I love about Ayn Rand's philosophy is that it provides a code of morality existing outside of blind faith, breaking free of the false choice of religion vs. subjectivism.John:"...she was my top choice in a quiz on ethical philosophy." So that quiz was not in a philosophy class?I started with Atlas - you will not be disappointed.Breaking Free was the first book I read by Nathanial. Adam
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 John,Welcome to OL. You sound like you are going to have a good time around here.Michael
Robert Campbell Posted August 6, 2009 Posted August 6, 2009 John,Was the ethics quiz you took one of those quizzes that get passed around on Facebook and other websites?If so, it did some good.Robert Campbell
galtgulch Posted August 12, 2009 Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) This is my first post, I'm fascinated by Ayn Rand and her philosophy and what to gain further understandings.Welcome to OL. I wonder how you discovered Ayn Rand and her philosophy? Care to share any thoughts about what you think of Objectivism and any concerns you may have about the direction of our society?www.campaignforliberty.com 193,023, 193,363, 193,495, 193,678, 193,763, 193,797, 193,965, 194,002, 194,110, 194,143, 194,186, 194,237, 194,274, 194,299, 194,322, 194,853, 195,789, 196,082, 196,836, 196,848, 197,905, 198,040, 198,182 membersgaltgulch aka gulchAddendum, John, I hope you are enjoying your visits here. This is one of several sites I check out each day. Ayn Rand wrote four novels and published a journal called The Objectivist Newsletter in which she had an Intellectual Ammunition Dept and a book review back in the mid sixties. I found out about her in 1968 and subscribed. Ayn Rand recommended works by Ludwig von Mises, an economist of the Austrian School, which sought to understand how the market place operates when the govt just makes sure contracts are abided by and no one initiates force or fraud! and where the medium of exchange and store of value is sound, as in the choice of the market over the centuries: gold and silver coins.Ron Paul, Republican congressman from Texas, also rec Mises' books, loyalty to the Constitution, sound money, and he founded the Campaign For Liberty. In an article in Freedom Daily in Jan 09 publ by the Future of Freedom Foundation, the work of Jacob Hornberger, an Objectivist, I learned that after "we" beat the British, the thirteen colonies became thirteen independent sovereign states, with no federal govt. However some people who had borrowed gold coins had signed contracts to repay in gold. But many of them approached their state govt and pleaded for an issuance of a paper currency and a law to change the gold clause to enable them to repay in paper!Their creditors decided to form a federal govt, with limited powers, over the states with provisions to forbid such ex post facto laws and to hold only gold and silver coins as legal tender! See Articles 1 Sections 8 and 10.www.fff.orgwww.fee.orgwww.atlassociety.orghttp://www.investmentrarities.com/www.mises.comwww.cafehayek.comhttp://www.lfb.org/product_info.php?products_id=291EnjoyEt al,I have been trying to discover the simplest and most persuasive way to entice ordinary people and fellow citizens to explore and possibly join the Campaign For Liberty. Rather than wait quietly and passively on line at Wal Mart or supermarkets I ask the person ahead of me on line if they have ever heard of the Campaign For Liberty. Usually not. I tell them that we all know that the politicians take an oath of office to uphold the Constitution but proceed to ignore it and vote for all manner of powers not authorized among the enumerated powers the Founders spelled out in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.I tell them that members of the Campaign For Liberty intend to replace those with citizens who will abide by the Constitution and will keep the oath. Given the groundswell, or is it a sea change, of anger at the Obama gang for trying to make a socialist utopia here by taking over the entire medical business and intruding the government between the doctors and their patients, i think now is the time to recruit the vast majority of voters to the cause of individual freedom and Capitalism.www.campaignforliberty.com 198,799, 198,835, 198,849, 198,934, 199,021, 199,062, 199,071, 199,297, 199,311, 199,403, 199,519, 199,797, 199,836, 199,905, 199,956, 200,266As exciting as approaching 200,000 members is today, we all know that there would have to be millions and then tens of millions of us who understand the crucial importance of adherence to the limits the Founder's made explicit in the Constitution if we are to assure our freedom from government tyranny once and for all. Now is the time for us to increase the numbers of freedom fighters and minutemen from the ranks of those who are opposed to the obvious takeover attempt by the Obama administration. If we lose this battle regaining our freedom will be that much harder. We have an opportunity here and must not waste it. Join us now or later but whether you do or not at least inform those you encounter in your daily life one to one of the existence of the Campaign For Liberty which has the potential to enable those who value their freedom and the freedom of their children and grandchildren to rally to the cause now. Here is an opportunity to do more than just hope and pray. Each person can join and simply let others know of the movement which has the prospect of success as our numbers grow into the millions conceivably within the next few months and years.gulch Edited August 17, 2009 by galtgulch
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