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Empathy, the Left, and the Shooting

What is the difference between the left and the right re empathy?

I contend that leftwing people have very little empathy in their souls. I don't think they even know what empathy is.

Take a look at the recent shooting in Texas. How many leftoids immediately jumped up in public and started yelling gun control and trying to shame everyone with the deaths of the children? In the beginning, they were sure the shooter was a white supremacist (many said so) until the name of the shooter came out, Salvador Ramos and his Hispanic face was shown everywhere. No apologies, though. Just pure agenda and to hell with the dead, although this is accompanied with proclamations about how sensitive the leftois all are.

It got to the absurdity that Beto O'Rourke interrupted a statement by Governor Abbot about the shooting so he could go on about how virtuous he was.

Opportunist Beto O’Rourke Says the “Only Evil” in the Uvalde Massacre is Governor Abbott

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O'Rourke said shootings will 'continue to happen' because Abbott refuses to 'stand up to the people of Texas.'

Law officials had to escort him out.

 

This shows the real problem with the left and empathy. They have no use for victims except as virtue signals they can use to impress others, generally about how noble their own feelings are.

Do you want an indication of how this plays out in reality?

It is well known that lefties always want to help the downtrodden with the money of others and the right, especially the religious right, is made up of some of the most charitable people on earth.

When the right sees distress, they dig in their own pockets and try to lift the victim up. When the left sees distress, they dig in YOUR pocket to help the victim, but also try to make political points with the misery of the victim. Once that is done, they are done,

I recall a recent discussion about the Ukraine-Russia mess. Notice the left had no use for the suffering of the Russians involved. There was a total blank-out on that as they went on and on and on about the plight of the poor suffering Ukrainians. That means they also had no use for those who did not want any war.

And what did they do in the end? Yup. That's right. They stuck their grubby paws in YOUR pocket, that is the pockets of the Deplorables in America for $40 billion. And now, with the money in hand, they are telling Zelensky to go ahead and give the land to Putin. Not a peep more about the suffering Ukrainian victims even as they feel their own virtue in their bones...

Why is that? Hmmmmm?...

 

This isn't just evil. I believe it is because the left literally does not not know what empathy is. Leftwing people feel, and I believe some of them have deep feelings, but they have no use for such feelings if there is not a personal payoff that has nothing to do with the distress they use as a signal. They need a way they can use this feeling to show others how good they are. If not, they get bored and move on to something else.

There is another word for this feeling: sympathy.

I know I could be playing semantics between sympathy and empathy, but regardless of the words, the two concepts I am talking about are completely different. Hugely different. And I believe the left doesn't have a clue about that difference.

A truly empathic person feels the pain of others in distress. He deals with their pain in the same way he deals with his own pain because he feels it like his own pain. Pure mirror neurons at work and the service is not for the exploitative altruism Rand fought against. The service is for the good of the species. In other words, the empathetic person is more concerned with fixing the pain than with how to exploit the pain of the sufferer for other personal unrelated interests.

Does exploiting the pain of others for personal gain sound like any leftwing person you know? It sure does to me.

To make this super clear, here is a visual I got from an Internet marketer years ago. This is so clear, it stayed with me long after I forgot the other lessons.

Imagine a person on a ship and the person is totally miserable. He's heaving his guts out over the side of the ship.

A sympathetic person comes up and puts his hand on the sick person's shoulder and talks to him about what he, the sympathizer, can do or not.

What does the empathetic person do? He goes right up beside the sick person and starts heaving his own lunch overboard, too.

 

Now think of that frame as you think about the following. What did the parents of the children murdered in the Uvalde massacre need? Did they need Beto O'Rourke interrupting a public statement to promote gun control or whatever in the name of their dead sons and daughters? Or did they need strangers to come sit with them in silence and share their pain? 

An empathetic person knows. 

I fear lefties don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

Michael

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I suspect redemption is tied in here too. Elitists and leftist are hardcore determinists, they hate the sinner and their solutions are to eliminate the sinners. 

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Some icing on the cake.

Biden’s Department of Homeland Security Announces It Will Not Conduct Immigration Enforcement in Uvalde, Texas at this Time After Mass Shooting

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US Immigration and Customs Enforcement reported Thursday that they will not conduct immigration enforcement in the Uvalde, Texas area following the horrific mass shooting at the local elementary school. ...

If the shooter had fit the profile of the "controlled narrative," there would be legislation and decrees all over the place.

This is why reality has to be the standard, not a political agenda.

And people should be judged more by what they do than by what they say.

 

The sympathy of the leftists about the school shooting is only about power. When power is involved, like with enforcing the border, the school shooting is not even on the radar. It has ceased to exist for lefties. They want their illegal votes and they want their cheap labor for their rich. End of discussion.

The predators on the right feel the same, but they tend to be more open about their lack of interest in deplorables and cruelty toward them. But sometimes they fly under leftie banners like with "compassionate conservatism" and bullshit phrases like that that express sympathy without empathy.

 

Sympathy is a great thing for connecting humans to each other, but it becomes rotten, cruel and power-oriented when empathy is excluded. Lefties tend to not know what empathy is, much less choose it or not choose it. How can one choose what one does not know exists? That's why they get constantly mocked as "bleeding heart liberals," "crocodile tears," "they FEEL," and so on.

Their lack of empathy makes their sympathy grotesque to empathetic people.

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I was not going to write about a suspicion I have about the massacre, but I just saw an article and video by Mike Adams where he goes into it from a different angle, so what the hell. Here goes.

 

The shooter was not some random kid. As Steve Bannon mentioned earlier today, he is essentially the same kid that did countless other school massacres. Bullied and introverted. Lots of pent-up rage. Needy of attention. And so on.

The characteristics are well-known not just by speculators, but by many organizations with professional staffs among psychology, behavioral science and so on.

Well, if they have that information, why should the Deep State or fellow-travelers not have that information? I say they not only should, but in the modern world with artificial intelligence, it's inconceivable to me that they would not.

 

So what can you do with that information if you are a bad guy? Easy. Get next to the people who can easily blow according to the profile, prepare them according to a script or at least according to psychological principles that are tested and that work. Then whenever a need arises for chaos, get the agent or agents next to the person to push the pain buttons hard, then get them to back off and watch the person explode, usually in a gun massacre or act of terrorism.

I bet if you look into the life of Salvador Ramos, you will see a person who was there until recently who is no longer there. That person will likely be the agent.

So what is to be gained by chaos at this point?

I just saw a video by Scott Adams (see here) who said the Republicans are going to cause a massive wipe-out in the mid-terms, but since the shooting, a lot of people who started leaning Republican no longer are. So there will probably not be a wipe-out as big as it otherwise would have been. Then he said something that caught my ear. He said, notice how one random shooting can alter the course of history.

(He also excused the cops who were afraid to confront the shooter by referencing a SWAT person who said you don't know what it is like to be shot at until you are shot at. Scott said we should listen to that guy rather than believe a paid law-enforcement person should hunt down a person killing unarmed kids. Talk about a tin-fucking ear. Scott's like that at times.)

But If Scott is saying that about the midterms, we know people among the predator class are saying it and believe it. They study behavioral science more that Scott does.

 

Now to Mike Adams. I haven't yet seen the video yet, but I did read the article. The issue is gun control. The cops were told to stand down to allow the massacre to unfold so the bad guys can sell gun control to the public. I agree, but I don't believe that's the whole story.

To me, just add this to the need for the current panicking predator ruling class to stop the bleeding, get the public's attention on something else where they have a chance to mold a narrative, and to hopefully hang onto some of their power. Or maybe even stage a coup.

I also believe they are getting incredibly sloppy in their panic.

 

Anyway, here is the video:

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It’s now 100% clear that the Uvalde mass shooting was a “stand down operation,” meaning law enforcement was deliberately ordered to stand down so that the massacre could take place. The goal? Gun control, of...

And here is the article:

Uvalde massacre was a PLANNED STAND DOWN operation – law enforcement saved their own children while parents were pepper-sprayed and handcuffed

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It's now 100% clear that the Uvalde mass shooting was a "stand down operation," meaning law enforcement was deliberately ordered to stand down so that the massacre could take place. The goal? Gun control, of...

 

This doesn't play nice with my sympathy and empathy discussion, but I had to mention it.

As far as the thread's theme goes, never forget that sympathy devoid of empathy is for power and power only.

It has nothing to do with the person suffering.

Michael

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I might as well put this here, too.

I have seen a speaker or two refuse to speak at the NRA convention because of the shooting.

That, I submit, is sympathy devoid of empathy. It's all about power, fear of losing power, or sucking up to power. Regardless, murdered kids are not really a part of this gesture except on the surface, as a bullshit reason to exploit what others feel.

 

President Trump showed up.

“Unlike Some, I Didn’t Disappoint You By Not Showing Up” – President Trump at NRA Convention in Houston (VIDEO)

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President Donald Trump spoke at the NRA Convention Friday in Houston, Texas. The 45th president did not hold back, telling the pro-Second Amendment crowd, “”Let’s not pretend that those on the left...

The damn title says "video" but, at this moment, there ain't no stinkn' video.

:) 

I don't feel like searching for one. so don't be disappointed. You can probably find one easily if you wish.

For me, I gotta go walk. Three miles a day. I'm losing weight, believe it or not. I've already lost about 40 pounds. :) 

 

I do want to mention the following, though.

There are several tweets in that article, all giving a quote from Trump.

If you look at each quote, it's easy to see the empathy in each one. You just have to know what to look for. But it's there in spades.

That's where Trump's appeal comes from with MAGA people.

He feels like we feel. And he asks for nothing in return for feeling that way.

Ironically, that is the surest way to garner power that exists among humans, even though power is not sought when the empathy is real.

Michael

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11 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

So what can you do with that information if you are a bad guy? Easy. Get next to the people who can easily blow according to the profile, prepare them according to a script or at least according to psychological principles that are tested and that work. Then whenever a need arises for chaos, get the agent or agents next to the person to push the pain buttons hard, then get them to back off and watch the person explode, usually in a gun massacre or act of terrorism.

I bet if you look into the life of Salvador Ramos, you will see a person who was there until recently who is no longer there. That person will likely be the agent.

Here's a guy who goes into this, Pete Santilli.

PETE SANTILLI EXPOSES FBI KNOWLEDGE OF MASS SHOOTER

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Pete Santilli joins Owen to discuss important information about FBI involvement in mass shootings.

When he says "Ramos," he means the shooter in Uvalde.

Pet mentioned the flicker rate on computer and mobile screens as part of this and I had not thought much about it, but I do know this stuff has been studied at DARPA and elsewhere as a covert control mechanism of the human mind. if there have been rigorous studies and there are known and provable results, it makes sense someone is using the technology.

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Polly weighs in, too.

She shows a video of hers from a couple of years ago where she showed actual market advertisements for companies that stage events (false flag and otherwise) for controlling public narratives. And she presented a group of the same people, mostly reporters, who were present at different mass shootings in different places all over the USA and around the world. How did they know where to go? She digs and shows connections.

Polly speculates some, but what she presents is too coincidental for credulity as mere coincidence.

Some of this is intentional. It's just that the people pulling the strings are not in the public eye.

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Coincidences at mass shootings, imaginary poxes to control the masses & bogus war coverage – we’ve seen it all before. Take a trip with me & see. If you’re able to send a gift of support I’d be grateful:...

 

To keep to a semblance of the original theme of this thread, the people behind these tragedies are engineering public sympathy and empathy. They create that emotional environment and that is the setup. Then the payoff comes when they feed their controlled narratives to press outlets. With modern story and propaganda technology, it's not hard to massage the narratives so they "take" with the public on a prepared emotional setup.

As Polly shows, there are people who openly work in this field and they don't even hide their tracks in the advertising and commerce part.

Still, sunlight is the best disinfectant for crap like this. Exposing it sometimes looks like the conspiracy theories are going too far, but them damn facts keep popping up.

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This is empathy.

Gov. Abbott: Anonymous Donor Provided $175K to Pay for Uvalde Shooting Victims’ Funerals

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An anonymous donor has provided $175,000 for the funeral expenses of the 19 children and 2 teachers murdered at an Uvalde elementary school.

Imagine if that idiot Beto O'Rourke had paid the bill--or better. Gotten some government money to pay the bill. He might even print up a tee shirt about it.

I have one caveat about the anonymous donor, though. The fact that Governor Abbot is announcing his empathy to the world leaves me cold.

Did he or she trade that donation for political favors? If so, that was clever sympathy and, frankly a bit creepy in the way deception is used, but not empathy.

But if truly anonymous, it is a nice act of an empathetic response to distress.

There's more. I wouldn't mind a person putting his or her name on it. I see no bad in that. A donation from one's own pocket to alleviate distress is a good act in my book, anonymous or otherwise.

I realize this is not Objectivish. But in my life, I don't want to exclude oxytocin from my brain. And I certainly don't want to use Objectivism to cultivate indifference or even cruelty in my soul. 

So I look to parameters where sharing and helping out is productive and to other parameters where altruism is a spider's web with bait weaved by predators as Ayn Rand warns. 

When I try to use my best independent thinking without faking reality in anything, I find that is rational. 

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Just to show you how wacky the world is, I'm going though a course called Screenwriting 101 by Angus Fletcher (for The Great Courses, which is now Wondrium).

Although screenwriting runs throughout his lectures, the course is really about story.

Angus studies neuroscience as applied to story creation and storytelling. His strong insights are about classic literature and movies. I'm also reading his latest book, Wonderworks: Literary Invention and the Science of Stories (referral link).

 

Anywho, he covers empathy and sympathy in one of his lectures (the 4th--on character).

And he more or less agrees with my distinction, but without the power component. And there is for one critical difference that is much worse.

In the way he uses the words, their meanings are inverted. What I call empathy, he calls sympathy. Ditto for sympathy and empathy.

Confusing?

You betcha.

And, to be sure, I'm not the only one who uses my meanings. He's not the only one who uses his meanings, either.

 

This shows one of the most irritating aspects of studying story, narrative, and all things related. Before one can discuss the concepts, one has to get used to the labels (words) each author uses for their concepts. Often each uses the same word to represent opposing or even unrelated concepts

Irritating to understand, but at least it's doable. It has to be since there is no other option.

No wonder the world is such a mess.

Humans can't get their stories straight.

:) 

Michael

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Ben Berquam from Real America’s Voice joined Steve Bannon Tuesday morning on The War Room. Berquam is in Uvalde, Texas. This morning he was broadcasting outside Robbe Elementary School, the scene of...


I think that the shooting was planned and Ramos was provoked into doing it in order to have a huge gun-control effort.

I haven’t watched the Bannon episode, but sounds to me like Bannon is asking the right questions.

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3 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:
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Ben Berquam from Real America’s Voice joined Steve Bannon Tuesday morning on The War Room. Berquam is in Uvalde, Texas. This morning he was broadcasting outside Robbe Elementary School, the scene of...


I think that the shooting was planned and Ramos was provoked into doing it in order to have a huge gun-control effort.

I haven’t watched the Bannon episode, but sounds to me like Bannon is asking the right questions.

Ellen,

You are 100% right.

(Don't hold you breath, though, for a repeat of that statement. :) )

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On 5/31/2022 at 10:07 PM, Ellen Stuttle said:
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Ben Berquam from Real America’s Voice joined Steve Bannon Tuesday morning on The War Room. Berquam is in Uvalde, Texas. This morning he was broadcasting outside Robbe Elementary School, the scene of...


I think that the shooting was planned and Ramos was provoked into doing it in order to have a huge gun-control effort.

I haven’t watched the Bannon episode, but sounds to me like Bannon is asking the right questions.

Ellen


Meanwhile…

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May became the 34th straight month that civilian gun sales topped over 1 million. The FBI said that they conducted 2,349,383 background checks in May – 1,174,791 were tied to the sale of a firearm. This was...

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Ellen,

These kinds of things put Biden's crap into perspective, don't they?

:) 

Even though he tries to act presidential, even evil and tough guy at times, he's a wrapper with nothing wrapped except an empty box. He can fool a few people right now, but he's impotent big-picture-wise.

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5 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

Mike Dewine is expected to sign the latest measure into law that would arm Ohio's teachers and help protect school children

Interesting. Lately, I wonder how safe it is at big box stores but if I were at a school, it could be chilling. I can't imagine teachers always "carrying" but the weapon could be in a locked drawer.

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A group of bipartisan senators on Sunday reached an agreement on principle for gun legislation which includes ‘red flag’ laws. 10 Republicans joined the Democrats and bowed to their demands. “The...

Decent, probably mainly Christian and rural, Trump supporters, watch out.  Divesting you of your guns is the real intent.

The 10 Republicans who joined the Dems:

“The group on the release includes Republican Sens. John Cornyn of Texas, Thom Tillis and Richard Burr of North Carolina, Roy Blunt of Missouri, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Rob Portman of Ohio, Mitt Romney of Utah and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.” – CNN reported.

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I am FOR Red Flag Laws and raising the age limit for purchase to 21. I used to think, if you were old enough to join the military, you are old enough to purchase fire-arms, but I have changed my mind . . . unless you are in the military, of course. And I do not think guns that can spray, bump stock, bullets are a 'RIGHT." 

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From “History:” Right to Bear Arms, The text of the Second Amendment reads in full: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” The framers of the Bill of Rights adapted the wording of the amendment from nearly identical clauses in some of the original 13 state constitutions. end quote

I know for a time Second Amendment endorsers insisted “the people” needed weaponry to counter and rebel against a tyrannical state, but who in their right minds now thinks “the people” need machine guns, artillery, or atomic bombs since the government has them?   

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We the People , all them thar ordainers and such like , you mean they ain't like well shoot I donna know even how to put it , but well jess ain't constituted near 'nough ? 'specially them 2Aers ? Always harping on one dang thing, I mean there's lots elsewise in there , always jess the one with 'them ' types.

 

 

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For me, people should be able to purchase bazookas and military-grade weapons.

Even a tank if they want.

I serious.

:) 

Here's my reasoning. I don't trust my neighbors to own weapons without some kind of restriction on them. My neighbors end up being the ones who run government and that institution owns a lot of weapons. So I want to own my own weapons just in case my neighbors in the government go power-mad. Let reality, not any manmade law, be the restriction on them. People who own their own weapons shoot back when shot at.

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I keep reading over and over and over in all kinds of places that the number one cause of death from guns in the USA is suicide.

And the number one cause of murder by guns is handguns.

There are already laws on the books against suicide. For some reason, the authorities are never able to bring the criminal suicide perps to justice, though.

Also, there are strict laws about anyone owning handguns on the South Side of Chicago. (Registration and so on, which is mostly refused to any and all.)

That works, right?

:)

 

Why don't the laws work, goddamit?

Won't those human suckers ever act right?

:) 

Michael

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Martha MacCallum on Fox is interviewing the Texas Lieutenant Government Dan Patrick and they are talking about the Uvalde, Texas shooting. Apparently, much that has been said about the mass shooting was a LIE. The police were in the building that did have body armor, and I saw a least three rifles in the hands of the police. So much ‘NEWS’ was untrue.

Closed circuit TV and body cams are two great inventions. Thank you to the inventors of those devices. The investigation is not over.  

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On 6/13/2022 at 8:26 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I keep reading over and over and over in all kinds of places that the number one cause of death from guns in the USA is suicide.

And the number one cause of murder by guns is handguns.

There are already laws on the books against suicide. For some reason, the authorities are never able to bring the criminal suicide perps to justice, though.

Also, there are strict laws about anyone owning handguns on the South Side of Chicago. (Registration and so on, which is mostly refused to any and all.)

Thank God I will soon no longer need to make arguments like this.

SCOTUS just hammered a wooden stake in the heart of the gun control vampire that keeps trying to suck the blood out of American freedom.

Here's a different kind of article about what SCOTUS did. And informative, since it quotes the ruling and all... :) 

The Best Lines From The Supreme Court’s Takedown Of New York’s Unconstitutional Gun Licensing Scheme

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The Supreme Court ruled that New York’s policy is wholly unconstitutional because it tramples on the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

 

 

I don't know how this will affect short-term that idiot gun control law passed by the Senate, but it left no doubt if that law passes the House and is signed by Biden, it will be struck down by SCOTUS.

Maybe this is why Biden said he was disappointed by the decision.

‘Deeply Disappointed’ Joe Biden Says SCOTUS Gun Ruling ‘Contradicts Both Common Sense and Constitution’

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Joe Biden said he is "deeply disappointed" with the Supreme Court's decision Thursday to strike down a New York law that restricted access to concealed carry permits of handguns, saying in a statement…

It is not Biden's job to decide what contradicts the Constitution.

That job belongs to SCOTUS and they said the exact opposite of what Biden said.

 

So what's next? Some state or other will start charging thousands of dollars for a gun permit. This, too, will go to SCOTUS and be struck down. Then the Second Amendment will more or less be as it should be. This will take time, but that's the way our system does it.

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There's a quote from this 4 minute video that's a hoot.

It happens at about the 3:00 mark.

To set it up properly, Mike Davis was gushing about the SCOTUS ruling because he said it's the government's heavy burden to prove to us why we can't exercise a constitutional right, not the government's job to see if we are qualified to exercise a constitutional right. He was happy the NY legal infringement was being jettisoned with this SCOTUS ruling.

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Mike Davis: New York Supreme Court Strikes Down Unconstitutional Concealed Carry Law

Here's the fun part. The discussion turned to the Senate's current vote on that stupid gun control bill.

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STEVE BANNON: Why do we see the Senate actually doing this? Why is the Republican Senate... when we still don't have any real information coming out of Uvalde, and none about the shooter, they're suppressing that, obviously... Why is this rush to basically prop up the Biden regime, sir?

MIKE DAVIS (emphatically, without hesitation): Because we're weak and stupid.

STEVE BANNON (long pause as his brain resets): OK. I'm a thousand percent with you there. 

As Steve continued, there was a moment where he tried to keep from cracking up, then he went back to serious.

:) 

Michael

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