Coronavirus

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Yuval Noah Harari (one of the bad guys) has another term:

total biometric surveillance

Out of their own mouths.

Michael

[ThatGuy]

24 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Yuval Noah Harari (one of the bad guys) has another term:

total biometric surveillance

Out of their own mouths.

Michael

Ewww.

[Marc]

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Give me a break!

Look at today's gem in The Atlantic by Emily Oster.

LET’S DECLARE A PANDEMIC AMNESTY
We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty - The Atlantic

WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM

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We need to forgive one another for what we did and said when we were in the dark about COVID.

 

How's that for running scared?

These assholes need to be discredited and many need to go to prison for the deaths, injuries, and destruction they caused as they enriched themselves...

Michael

[Mark]

In the same Twitter thread is this "meme":

“By declining the Vax I am 100% safe from adverse reactions and 99.8% safe from Covid.  I’d say those are pretty safe odds.  I’m happy with that.”

What a great line.  And of course if you're not otherwise sick or weakened and get safe and effective treatment per Dr. Peter McCullough, that 99.8% would be closer to 99.99% or better.  Not safe from contracting Covid, safe from any adverse consequences.
 

 

[Strictlylogical]

2 hours ago, Mark said:

In the same Twitter thread is this "meme":

“By declining the Vax I am 100% safe from adverse reactions and 99.8% safe from Covid.  I’d say those are pretty safe odds.  I’m happy with that.”

What a great line.  And of course if you're not otherwise sick or weakened and get safe and effective treatment per Dr. Peter McCullough, that 99.8% would be closer to 99.99% or better.  Not safe from contracting Covid, safe from any adverse consequences.
 

 

Mark, I think we are still awaiting the studies about long covid… and spike proteins in general.  A man made disaster with a cure just as bad as the disease might be a final conclusion about the last few years.

In the final analysis we may have been mislead MORE about the disastrous possible long term effects of it, in a bid to avoid panic… and such secrets may have fuelled the irresponsible experimentation on the public and an unrealistic hope we could prevent transmission by any means.

Jab or sniffles… I think all of it will turn out to be problematic and long term and very serious.

[Ellen Stuttle]

2 hours ago, Mark said:

In the same Twitter thread is this "meme":

“By declining the Vax I am 100% safe from adverse reactions and 99.8% safe from Covid.  I’d say those are pretty safe odds.  I’m happy with that.”

What a great line.  And of course if you're not otherwise sick or weakened and get safe and effective treatment per Dr. Peter McCullough, that 99.8% would be closer to 99.99% or better.  Not safe from contracting Covid, safe from any adverse consequences.
 

 

"Not safe from contracting Covid, safe from any adverse consequences."

And you wouldn’t be safe from contracting Covid, or at any less risk from contracting Covid, if you did get "the Vax."

(I know that you know that, just emphasizing that all the Jabs do for a person is put the person at risk of adverse reactions.  No benefit conferred.)

Ellen

[Ellen Stuttle]

On 10/29/2022 at 2:16 PM, Ellen Stuttle said:

You're right about the Nazis keeping excellent records.

However, from what I find in studying the CDC material on figures, record-keeping by US hospitals and clinics during the Covid brouhaha has been disorganized and the CDC themselves don’t have good estimates of the number of hospitalizations.  There does have to be a paper trail with CARES and insurance payments, but tracking the trail won’t be easy.

Ellen

 

On 10/29/2022 at 3:23 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The lawsuits against hospitals now underway in Fresno and elsewhere, including those yet to be filed, will make sure paper trails of the Remdesivir murder protocol get into court records.

I don't see a way to keep this from happening.

Michael (and Marc),

The figure I was actually wondering about there in speaking of "the number of hospitalizations" is the total number, including hospitalizations either correctly or incorrectly diagnosed as Covid cases which didn’t result in death.  I.e., how many people lived to tell of the hospitalizations?  What percentage of hospitalizations resulted in death?

Ellen

[Marc]

22 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

 

Michael (and Marc),

The figure I was actually wondering about there in speaking of "the number of hospitalizations" is the total number, including hospitalizations either correctly or incorrectly diagnosed as Covid cases which didn’t result in death.  I.e., how many people lived to tell of the hospitalizations?  What percentage of hospitalizations resulted in death?

Ellen

We will surely find out after the guards who were just "following orders" ummm, I mean nurses and doctors start to come out as the pendulum swings back to reality.

Human nature never changes and once folks start to talk very openly on Twitter ( imagine that) about what the term " work will set you free" and where the trains actually went then it will be like a tsunami.

 

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

44 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

The figure I was actually wondering about there in speaking of "the number of hospitalizations" is the total number, including hospitalizations either correctly or incorrectly diagnosed as Covid cases which didn’t result in death.  I.e., how many people lived to tell of the hospitalizations?

Ellen,

Rotsa ruck on that one.

It's cover-up time for the medical industrial complex.

Later, the records that have not been destroyed will come out. And a lot of them will have been altered.

Still, I believe lots of insiders will be going to prison. I expect there will be enough unaltered records to guarantee that.

But getting that info now?

That's like trying to take a banana back from a monkey.

 

Michael

[Ellen Stuttle]

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Ellen,

Rotsa ruck on that one.

t's cover-up time for the medical industrial complex.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  It’s going to be very difficult to find out.

Ellen

[Brant Gaede]

4 hours ago, Strictlylogical said:

Mark, I think we are still awaiting the studies about long covid… and spike proteins in general.  A man made disaster with a cure just as bad as the disease might be a final conclusion about the last few years.

In the final analysis we may have been mislead MORE about the disastrous possible long term effects of it, in a bid to avoid panic… and such secrets may have fuelled the irresponsible experimentation on the public and an unrealistic hope we could prevent transmission by any means.

Jab or sniffles… I think all of it will turn out to be problematic and long term and very serious.

And long jabs.

--Brant

[Ellen Stuttle]

6 hours ago, Strictlylogical said:

Mark, I think we are still awaiting the studies about long covid… and spike proteins in general.  A man made disaster with a cure just as bad as the disease might be a final conclusion about the last few years.

In the final analysis we may have been mislead MORE about the disastrous possible long term effects of it, in a bid to avoid panic… and such secrets may have fuelled the irresponsible experimentation on the public and an unrealistic hope we could prevent transmission by any means.

Jab or sniffles… I think all of it will turn out to be problematic and long term and very serious.

Where is the idea of "long covid… and spike proteins in general" coming from?

Is that some sort of new attempted defense by Jabbers?

The spike protein of a corona virus is part of the virus.  It doesn’t roam around the body like a dog off the leash causing mischief here and there.

Ellen
 

[tmj]

Unless , it’s isolated ,concentrated and injected.

[Strictlylogical]

Duck duck go

"spike protein"

"long covid"

"inflammation"

and maybe

"circulation"

you'll find other words you may want to search as well

 

 

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

The spike protein of a corona virus is part of the virus.  It doesn’t roam around the body like a dog off the leash causing mischief here and there.

Ellen,

I'm no doctor or medical specialist, but from what I understand of what I have read and consumed so far, the mRNA molecules from the mRNA injections actually do run around the body like dogs off their leashes (through the lymphatic system) and produce spike proteins wherever they deem the damn things are needed. And they so deem in a lot more places than in COVID virus cells--although this part is not in the video below. (I've seem comments about this elsewhere.)

However, the part in the video below by Dr. Charles Hoffe is horrible enough. Actual physical pointy spikes from the interconnection between the blood vessel walls and the COVID virus walls are created on the jabbed person's bloodstream walls and these are what cause the blood clots.

On 10/26/2022 at 11:03 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Here's a guy who explains that mRNA molecules eventually turn into tiny spikes on your blood vessel walls, which are supposed to be smooth, and this is why they form clots.

 

I made a transcript of the video for you.

Quote

DR. CHARLES HOFFE: And the COVID vaccine is injected into your arm. We now know that only 25% of it actually stays in your arm. And the other 75% is literally collected by your lymphatic system and fed into your circulation.

So these little packages of messenger RNA… and by the way, in a single dose of a Moderna vaccine, there are 40 trillion messenger RNA molecules, 40 trillion that are injected into your arm. So three quarters of these are taken, connected by the lymphatics. They go into your bloodstream in these little packages that are designed to be absorbed into a cell.

But obviously, when something's in your circulation, the only cells that they're going to get absorbed into is the cells around your blood vessels. And the place where absorption happens is in the capillary networks. In other words, these are the tiniest vessels where the blood slows right down. These are tiny, tiny vessels.

So these little packages of genes are absorbed into the cells around the blood vessels, that’s the vascular endothelium, the packages open, the genes are released, your body then gets to work, reading these genes and manufacturing trillions and trillions of COVID spike proteins. 

Here's where the problem comes. In a virus, in a coronavirus, that spike protein becomes part of the viral capsule. In other words, it's part of the cell wall around the virus called the viral capsule.

But it's not in a virus. It's in your cells. So it therefore becomes part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium.

These cells that line your blood vessels, which are supposed to be smooth so that your blood flows smoothly, now have these little spikey bits sticking out. So it is absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form.

 

I don't know if these physical spikes on blood vessel walls have anything to do with the name of the spike protein, but I do know the following. All of this is absolutely despicable to do to human beings without their knowledge and under the ruse of being a vaccine.

This is more than an unintended consequence. This is a form of war, biological war, whether the people perpetrating it believe they are fighting in a war or not.

They are killing and maiming innocent people left and right.

Michael

[Mark]

Dr. Peter McCullough, October 29:

"Yesterday I was stripped of my board certifications in Internal Medicine and Cardiology after decades of perfect clinical performance, board scores, and hundreds of peer reviewed publications."

Then he was terminated as the Editor in Chief of Cardiorenal Medicine and Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine.

See

Dr. Peter McCullough is being progressively stripped of his medical credentials

by Steve Kirsch.

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Mark,

I don't think that will stand the test of time.

And I do think Dr. McCullough will get plenty of money for damages in the courts.

The beast is in its death throes so it is lashing out at random.

Michael

[Ellen Stuttle]

15 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Ellen,

I'm no doctor or medical specialist, but from what I understand of what I have read and consumed so far, the mRNA molecules from the mRNA injections actually do run around the body like dogs off their leashes (through the lymphatic system) and produce spike proteins wherever they deem the damn things are needed. And they so deem in a lot more places than in COVID virus cells--although this part is not in the video below. (I've seem comments about this elsewhere.)

Michael,

sigh…….

Right, the spike proteins from the mRNA injections DO run around the body like a dog off the leash (metaphorically speaking).

The spike protein of a corona virus DOES NOT do that.  It's part of the virus, not detached.

SL spoke of dangers from spike proteins, whether from the injections or from the virus.  There isn’t the danger with spike proteins from the virus.  All those do is give the virus entry into a cell.

Ellen

[Ellen Stuttle]

16 hours ago, tmj said:

Unless , it’s isolated ,concentrated and injected.

But then it isn’t part of the virus.  See my post to Michael.

Ellen

[Ellen Stuttle]

On 10/31/2022 at 10:07 PM, Strictlylogical said:

Duck duck go

"spike protein"

"long covid"

"inflammation"

and maybe

"circulation"

you'll find other words you may want to search as well

 

 

 

"long covid":

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html

As I suspected, more deception from the Jabbers.

Ellen

[tmj]

3 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

But then it isn’t part of the virus.  See my post to Michael.

Ellen

I further speculate that the mechanics of spike protein expression with the engineered mutation that was designed to ‘anchor’ the spike protein on the exterior portion of the reprogrammed cell may lend the ability of the spikes becoming ‘sticky and grabby’ , in may be that the protruding spike contacts a neighboring membrane and  ‘anchor’ to that surface, like how blood clots could form.

If the injection gains entry to the blood stream and reprograms cells in and around the tissues in the circulatory system and spike protein expression occurs in close contact to blood cells and other serum elements , it is possible that action could form clots , perhaps even some really weird clots re the embalmers claims .

But I’m just speculating.

I have seen reports that during high infection levels that people were claiming relatives remains were cremated by hospitals whether requested or not , which makes me speculate about even more ghoulish possibilities ‘authorities ‘ would prefer the deceased were cremated or rendered unavailable for post mortem /autopsy.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

4 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

SL spoke of dangers from spike proteins, whether from the injections or from the virus.

Ellen,

I wasn't correcting you, so no need to sigh.

 

I'm trying to understand this just as much as you are and I'm merely discussing what I came across from my limited perspective, trying to get a visual so to speak.

(Believe me, it's hard for a layman to get a visual with all the yelling and propaganda and jargon around this issue.)

For a visual, I liked your doggies, I thought they were cute, but you can keep them. I won't steal them.

 

Anyway, outside of this, I think I understood something wrong.

From the way Dr. Hoffe explained it, I know the "packages of messenger RNA" attach to the blood vessel cell linings of capillaries, but do the spike proteins attach there also?

Or maybe both do?

From what I understand, trillions of "packages of messenger RNA" from an injection (a jab) are carried all throughout the body through the lymph system. They attach to capillary cell linings, then get busy manufacturing trillions of spike proteins through interaction with the body in some manner.

And to get a visual in my mind, I saw the voyage of the "packages of messenger RNA" through the lymph system like dogs running wild (to use your metaphor), but don't worry, they are now good metaphors arf arf and are now on a leash that only apply to COVID virus linings. Good metaphor. Good metaphor. I assume spike proteins don't wag their tails, at least I hope not.  

But I did misunderstand something technical. In my mind's eye, I assumed these spike proteins attached to the COVID virus's wall lining there, at their point of manufacture. And I assumed this is what caused the spike.

But on rereading, I now have a visual impression (possibly) that these manufactured spike proteins are released back into the lymph system (from where the "packages of messenger RNA" came from) and, maybe, also released into and carried through the blood stream (i.e., running around like little doggies, oops, sorry, I said I wouldn't do that  ) until they find COVID viruses and attach to their cell linings (capsules).

Which means that the little messenger RNA-based manufacturing plants are the physical spikes on the capillary linings, the spikes that are causing the blood clots. At least I think that's right.

But I'm still unclear about whether ONLY these messenger-RNA-based manufacturing plants are attached to blood vessel linings or whether the spike proteins they manufacture also attach themselves to blood vessel linings. After all, Dr. Hoffe said:

Quote

Here's where the problem comes. In a virus, in a coronavirus, that spike protein becomes part of the viral capsule. In other words, it's part of the cell wall around the virus called the viral capsule.

But it's not in a virus. It's in your cells. So it therefore becomes part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium.

So maybe I still got it wrong and the little manufacturing plants don't cause the spikes, but some of the spike proteins they manufacture do by attaching to the blood vessel lining.

Or even worse, that the little messenger RNA-based manufacturing plants actually morph into spike proteins and stay attached to the capillary cell linings. But if that is the case, when and where do they get in contact with viruses to attach to their capsules?

Oh, hell. I can't resist. In my mind's eye, I see two kinds of doggies running wild, the "packages of messenger RNA" through the lymph system, and the spike proteins they produce once they come into being and before they attach to COVID viruses.

Is one of them being a bad boy or am I?

 

Michael

[Marc]

 

[Marc]