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3 hours ago, anthony said:

Religious "exemptions" are a travesty of individual rights. Religion must not be sought and granted as the legal/moral justification for excusing a group of people by 'group'.

We just had a pole building put up as a secondary garage and storage area and some Amish guys were most of the work crew. It looks somewhat like a barn with a weather vane on top. They were driven here from upper Delaware near the Pennsylvania border since they don't drive. And they peed behind an old shed we still have. At least that is what I think they were doing.  

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A Canadian prof speaks for hers and all western countries in "Capitalism" mag. The first time I've read a concise Objectivist portrayal of "man's life" and "purpose" and freedom, pertaining to this pandemic by someone I'm not sure considers herself Objectivist. While she definitely knows the fundaments. ARI scholars: where are you? Still on the fence?

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Two years into the pandemic, despite all that misery and the vaccines and treatments now available, polls suggest that over a half of...

 

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On 1/31/2022 at 10:10 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
On 1/31/2022 at 12:37 PM, Peter said:

Does anyone disagree with mandatory measles or chicken pox shots? Why has this ONE vaccination been singled out for massive protests?

[T]he mRNA based jab it is not a vaccine.

The video below caught my eye back in February 2021. How did a mRNA 'not vaccine' or 'not classical' vaccines come to be? 

The video is somewhat annoyingly talking-shouty plaid and technical, but it gets you oriented to the development process -- even if you believe mRNA 'not vaccines' are a failure or a fraud or A Plot, knowing what happened along the way can help in identifying where the whole project went wrong.

Here are three articles that have helped my mind get around the long process that resulted in The Plot.

Free article from January 2022:

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The stunning Covid vaccines manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna drew upon long-buried discoveries made in the hopes of ending past epidemics.

"Stunning"? You betcha.

Nature's descriptive narrative of the plot before it became The Plot -- October 2021:

 

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Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough. Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the...

 

-- this one comes direct from plotters, I believe, so a fine reading of their erstwhile history/promotion may be useful to various sides of the mRNA (NOT)vaccines discussion space:  World Economic Forum, July 2021:

 

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What's inside an mRNA vaccine vial? How do mRNA vaccines differ from other approaches, and what’s their promise for the future?

One passage stood out for me ... the "promise" that these monstrous technologies will open a whole new armamentarium against human disease.

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Promise for the future

Beyond COVID-19 and its variants, researchers are developing mRNA vaccines for other infectious diseases. Early animal testing has shown that mRNA vaccines can fend off viruses like influenza, Zika and rabies. Researchers from the University of Illinois, Chicago are engineering an mRNA vaccine for the dengue virus while research into a vaccine for malaria is gaining ground.

BioNTech recently announced the first vaccine for malaria based on mRNA technology and aims to start clinical testing by the end on 2022, while human trials for an HIV vaccine developed by Moderna are due to start soon.

In total, of the 44 ongoing clinical trials of mRNA vaccines, 23 are targeting infectious diseases.

[...]

 

There are a number of "tradition is best" vaccines deployed around the world -- I could be encouraged to get into the weeds with them, but I will just add some information about the Communist Cuban vaccine that seems on the surface to have beaten the fuck out of COVID-19 in that sorry nation.

What types of 'classical' vaccines are being used around the world?

1) for folks who like to see how 'soft' propaganda is purposed and deployed, an article from the 'factually mixed' Guardian on Cuba's "Cuba Says" semi-traditional vaccine.  Followed by

1B) Wikipedia's much more dry assemblage of information about the Abdala product

 

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The island nation struggles to keep the lights on but has inoculated 90% of its population with home-developed vaccines

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The island nation struggles to keep the lights on but has inoculated 90% of its population with home-developed vaccines

Why Cuba, is Cuba. Keeping the electricity on, is problematic - but producing a State vaccine: no hay problema.

The Socialist contract: You the people will be kept living if you obey without protest.

The value-concept, "life", made meaningless.

 

"Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees". 

Emiliano Zapata

 

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3 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The video is somewhat annoyingly talking-shouty plaid and technical, but it gets you oriented to the development process -- even if you believe mRNA 'not vaccines' are a failure or a fraud or A Plot...

William,

This snark is exactly why I am not interested in looking at the stuff you posted.

I am not interested in using an experimental drug that will change my biology irreversibly, especially when the people in power are calling it a vaccine and it is not, and they are trying to force everyone to take it.

Whether you want to call it The Plot or whether that's just me exercising my free will to protect my body, to me, that's not up for debate.

I will not call a foot a motorcycle to avoid mockery and I will not put an experimental drug I do not believe in into my body.

And I will not be mocked into wasting my time looking at technical propaganda.

Suck on it if you don't like it.

Michael

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7 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The video below caught my eye back in February 2021. How did a mRNA 'not vaccine' or 'not classical' vaccines come to be? 

Whatever it is called, is it effective? If Pfizer and Moderna are claiming well over 95 percent protection from severe symptoms. If watermelon protected me from Covid I would have some today. As Michael mentioned the jab might change your body in some ways, but I have detected no loss in mentalmentalmental functioning.   

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

If Pfizer and Moderna are claiming well over 95 percent protection from severe symptoms.

Oh, well, then! If Pfizer and Moderna are CLAIMING it, then it HAS to be TRUE!
(But the claims that Ivermectin and HCQ, medicines with long-term proven usages, are also claimed to be effective? "Blank-out"...)


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The Mystery Man got nervous
An' he fidget around a bit
He reached in the pocket of his Mystery Robe
An' he whipped out a shaving kit
Now, I thought it was a razor
An' a can of foamin' goo
But he told me right then when the top popped open
There was nothin' his box won't do
With the oil of Afro-dytee
An' the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said:
"You might not believe this, little fella, but it'll cure your Asthma too!"
An' I said...
Look here brother,
Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?
(Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Peter said:

As Michael mentioned the jab might change your body in some ways, but I have detected no loss in mentalmentalmental functioning.   

Peter,

If you are interested, here is one thing I have learned, but I learned it as a layman so my precision in using scientific terms--or even other things--might be off. However, I have seen this idea repeated by several science people I trust.

Also, I'm not mentioning this to win any argument. I'm merely giving you a heads up on what to look for in your own future.

As I understand it, when the body reacts to a virus and creates its own immunity, it also creates something called T cells. These cells, just like spike proteins, attack viruses and other microscopic invaders into the human body. But T cells do not act short-term when they are created (like spike proteins do). Instead, they work medium to long term. 

The artificial creation of spike proteins (which is what the mRNA jab does), destroys T cells as they are being created. The artificial creation interrupts the body's natural rhythms in allowing both to exist. 

In short, spike proteins give you short term protection for an isolated virus, but your natural medium-to-long term general protection gets shot to hell.

So I believe you should keep an eye open anytime you get sick--it no longer matters whether it is coronvirus or other other illnesses--and take extra care to use therapeutics (medicine) as soon as you detect you are sick. Your body's natural immunity response will no longer kill the bug-uglies, or at least its capacity to do so has been compromised.

You need to look out for getting sick more often than normal and also, getting more severe illnesses if you do not find medicine that kills the microbes early in an illness.

This is how I understand it.

The sad part is that--for now at least--there is no undoing this change in the human body caused by the mRNA jab. It's a done deal unless some scientist or other figures out how to fix it and the Big Pharma/government cartel lets it go to market.

Like I said, I'm a layperson, so this is what I understand, not what is published in some peer reviewed paper I read. But I have heard this general idea expressed by science people I trust (and they do read the peer-reviewed papers).

Also, I have one other caveat. What I just said is not even what they said, but what I understood them to be saying. I could be wrong. I don't think so, but I could be. But I could be right.

And I have to add this. I am only talking about one side-effect from this experimental mRNA drug. I am not discussing the heart attacks, fertility issues, etc.

(This is my best thinking so far, so this is what I am going with for my own choices.)

Anyway, what I've heard is that the sort of problems I mentioned only start happening about a couple of years or so after taking the jab.

So my unsolicited advice is to be careful in future illnesses.

That's the best I can say other than this: I hope I am wrong.

Michael

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18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

So my unsolicited advice is to be careful in future illnesses.

That's the best I can say other than this: I hope I am wrong.

Thanks for the advice and info Michael. It has been around 10 months since I was shot in the arm and I feel better than ever, with no illnesses, and no sniffles other than from when I go from a house in the 70's to the outside where it is in the 30's. 

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"Remarkable data".

Following Johns Hospers - much too late, self-evident to any lay person but thanks anyway - report that lockdowns were all wrong, scientists in Israel have released this shattering revelation. (Next to come - surprise - studies indicating Ivermectin's efficacy)

Trust the science. "Misinformation" is rapidly turning out to be ¬information¬ people desperately needed, that would have saved lives, no doubt. A year or two before vaccines arrived.

No. Put all your faith in the vaccine science. Exclusive from the treatment/prophylactic science

 

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Bolstering previous research, scientists publish 'remarkable' data showing strong link between vitamin deficiency, prevalent in Israel...

 

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Anthony quoted, “Israeli study offers strongest proof yet of vitamin D’s power to fight COVID . . . “

Odd. I received my three Covid shots at the U.S. Veteran’s Association Clinic some time ago and they recommended taking 2000 mg of vitamin D, but not every day . . .

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sigh...

Make It Stop: Scientists Find Putting Pantyhose on Your Head Creates a Better Seal, Makes Masks Safer

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Make. It. Stop. Scientists are now saying putting pantyhose on your head makes masks safer. A ‘peer-reviewed’ study from researchers at the University of Cambridge tested different mask ‘hacks’ to find the...

They not only want to force you to wear those silly masks that don't work, now they want you to wear a pantyhose on your head to enhance the mask.

What a fucked-up world...

:) 

Michael

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14 hours ago, Peter said:

Anthony quoted, “Israeli study offers strongest proof yet of vitamin D’s power to fight COVID . . . “

Odd. I received my three Covid shots at the U.S. Veteran’s Association Clinic some time ago and they recommended taking 2000 mg of vitamin D, but not every day . . .

But when? In late 2021 right? Recommended WITH your vaxx, barely publicized previously..

A common off the shelf vitamin:

Generally, how many people had heard of D3 (or Zinc) re: Covid, before mid 21?  How few began using them?  A year too late for many elderly and ill.

I wonder what were all those scientists looking into, experimenting with and ¬doing¬ throughout 2020/21?? Amid the urgency, some surely must have considered running trials repurposing available drugs. One possible but "out there" suggestion, HCQ, was instantly closed off by scientists and media as misinformation; studies recently are showing it has effectiveness. Prescribing Ivermectin for Covid by e.g. Australian doctors was banned by their govt. as lately as Sept 21. Why?

Or: was immorally locking populations down, uselessly mass-masking, distancing and sanitizing the scientists' only policy recourse? Until the (trial) vaccines will come out to 'eradicate the virus' - praise be! - and how did that go for us? Lives saved certainly, but coronavirus kept spreading: infection rates only now slowing down and variants losing virulence - naturally and predictably - hardly due to vaxxes.

You get WebMD I believe. Take a look at this tentative ("might help") article and pay attention to the date around the time that D first was minimally brought to public notice.

That is what's odd.

A conspiracy of silence, some could suspect.

 

 

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On 2/3/2022 at 12:35 AM, ThatGuy said:
  On 2/3/2022 at 12:10 AM, Peter said:

If Pfizer and Moderna are claiming well over 95 percent protection from severe symptoms.

Well, if Pfizer and Moderna say it, it MUST be true....um, right? And they would have no ulterior motive to make such a claim...right? (Blank out...)
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain; the Great Oz has spoken..."
 

Original Investigation

January 25, 2022

Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in the US From December 2020 to August 2021

Matthew E. Oster, MD, MPH1,2,3; David K. Shay, MD, MPH1; John R. Su, MD, PhD, MPH1; et al

Key Points

Question  What is the risk of myocarditis after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination in the US?

Findings  In this descriptive study of 1626 cases of myocarditis in a national passive reporting system, the crude reporting rates within 7 days after vaccination exceeded the expected rates across multiple age and sex strata. The rates of myocarditis cases were highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males aged 12 to 15 years (70.7 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine), in adolescent males aged 16 to 17 years (105.9 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine), and in young men aged 18 to 24 years (52.4 and 56.3 per million doses of the BNT162b2 vaccine and the mRNA-1273 vaccine, respectively).

Meaning  Based on passive surveillance reporting in the US, the risk of myocarditis after receiving mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines was increased across multiple age and sex strata and was highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males and young men.

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This descriptive study compares the effect of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vs mRNA-1273...

 

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7 hours ago, anthony said:

But when? In late 2021 right? Recommended WITH your vaxx, barely publicized previously..

If I remember correctly Vitamin D was recommended to me about ten years ago. I was taking too much D without coaxing before then, and the VA told me to take 2000 I.U. It just seems to coincide with current D and Covid research.

A year ago, I had bloodwork done and the VA's medical practitioner recommended I stop taking Motrin or Aleve and lessen my intake of D also. I have stopped all of that except for a D every other or every third day. I remember the book "Life Extension" that recommended certain vitamins until one of the authors got cancer and the vitamins may have hastened her death. Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw may have been their names.   

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

If I remember correctly Vitamin D was recommended to me about ten years ago. I was taking too much D without coaxing before then, and the VA told me to take 2000 I.U. It just seems to 

I was specific. "D3 - Re: Covid".  Not anytime else. I have also been taking magnesium (D3 is magnesium stearate) for 15 years.

But this is not about me or you. It is about the public at large, how long potential virus casualties went without the simple vitamin recommendation.

Deficiency - read the report from Israel:

 

"Vitamin D deficiency is endemic across the Middle East, including in Israel, where nearly four in five people are low on the vitamin, according to one study from 2011".

 

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I don't think this is going anywhere anytime soon, but I have seen things recently I thought would never happen in the USA.

Also, this is actually a canary in the coal mine. Regardless of what happens, this is a signal that important people are thinking about the possibility.

WATCH: Military Lawyer Says Genetic Changes Caused by mRNA COVID-19 Jabs Create New Human ‘Species’ as Intellectual Property

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While Big Tech and mainstream media censors anyone who states the COVID-19 jabs are mRNA gene therapies, we have admissions from pharmaceutical companies confirming the ‘conspiracy theory.’ Stefan...

This is one possibility that is not cool.

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The fiasco of the Beijing Olympics starts.

Here is the is part of the text:

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Not a single Western MSM outlet has reported this:

*three people have died at Beijing’s Waldorf Astoria hotel — reports noted violent spasms and convulsions before death

*Vladimir Putin is staying at the Waldorf Astoria

*16 people in Putin's personal entourage have been infected — including four or five bodyguards 

Our crooked globalist overlords are all together in one place inside Beijing’s sealed triple-locked closed-loop bubble. Time to weld all the exits closed from the outside — Xian City style — and sit it out…

It looks like the new Chinese strain of the coronavirus is aggressive and contagious.

I wonder how close this Russian-Chinese partnership will remain if Putin gets sick over there and most of his staff dies off.

Or if the CCP really does lock everyone in the hotel, heads of state and diplomats included.

Meanwhile, the media audience for the Olympics is a disaster. The promoters and funders are losing money left and right.

Michael

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Here is Miles Guo himself (a Chinese billionaire who fights the CCP) giving the information on infections at the Beijing elections, the Russia-China partnership, etc.. Miles is the guy who sponsors Steve Bannon, Gettr, many other ventures, and provides insider information to Ben Harnwell.

It looks like there is already toxic tension between Russia and China.

I was able to get by with the subtitles, but why does Chinese sound so funny?

:) 

Michael

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On 12/21/2021 at 7:18 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Former Alaska governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin vowed on Sunday she would get a COVID vaccine “over my dead...

From Wonderwall: . . .  in late January and early February 2022, starting with this politician and former "The Masked Singer" competitor... On Jan. 28 -- two days after Sarah Palin and Ron Duguay were seen dining together in New York City -- Page Six reported that the former governor of Alaska and the New York Rangers legend have been quietly dating since late last year. The following day, however, People magazine reported that, according to a source, they're "just friends" who "met through hockey." end quote
I had a poster of Sarah Palin that I received because I donated to her campaign. She had the nicest booblies and I seem to remember she was wearing an undershirt on top. The guy at the dump was a huge fan so regrettably I gave the poster to him.  

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On 2/5/2022 at 2:03 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Here is Miles Guo himself (a Chinese billionaire who fights the CCP) giving the information on infections at the Beijing elections, the Russia-China partnership, etc.. Miles is the guy who sponsors Steve Bannon, Gettr, many other ventures, and provides insider information to Ben Harnwell.

It looks like there is already toxic tension between Russia and China.

I was able to get by with the subtitles, but why does Chinese sound so funny?

:) 

Michael

All the Chinese you need to know is:

“Dew Neh Loh Mahh.”

English translation is “ Go fuck your mother”

 

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