caroljane Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 12:10 PM, Jonathan said: Michael, I do not understand words and sentences. Orange man bad. J lol. orange and white dogman funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Recent article from Donald Trump Jr. (on Real Clear Politics): If Big Tech Can Censor Me, Think What It Can Do to You The snowflakes running this companies are going to get a big surprise, especially with competitors. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 7:30 PM, caroljane said: lol. orange and white dogman funny. I was in Vegas about 10 years ago and The Blue Man group would have been fun to see. I had excellent third row tickets for Barry Manilow but gave them away at the last minute to a bride and groom I knew. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Woo hoo! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hollywood hipster coffee shops will never be the same. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 2/25/2019 at 11:02 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Woo hoo! Michael Veritas is now getting the goods on Facebook. I just learned a new word: deboosting. Here's the written story on the Veritas site: Facebook Insider Leaks Docs; Explains “Deboosting,” “Troll Report,” & Political Targeting in Video Interview More... we need more... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 What would they say on record to us? —-> “How do you know where I live, where I commute? I feel unsafe.” Soon a lot of these modern–day Nazi camp guards are going to be feeling unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Users of far-right social network Gab can now comment on the entire internet -- although the 'entire internet' will not be able to see your comment until they install a browser extension -- or follow a seven-step process. Spoiler GAB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Dissenter is going to propel GAB into the stratosphere of social media giants. It's a hell of a great idea. And if GAB doesn't go for whatever reason, I predict another company--doing the same service--will. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 I don't see how Facebook is going to avoid the MySpace effect and tank to a ghost of its former self. When the stampede starts (actually it has started, but it's way early in its early stage), it's going to be quite a show. Get this: Facebook Bans Zero Hedge and this: Facebook takes down Elizabeth Warren ads calling for breakup of Facebook Rather than refute, Facebook is banning. And it thinks banning will work to silence major figures in our culture. And once the people at Facebook get into this habit, I predict they will go haywire. They are pissing off people of all persuasions. Man oh man... Michael 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I don't see how Facebook is going to avoid the MySpace effect and tank to a ghost of its former self. When the stampede starts (actually it has started, but it's way early in its early stage), it's going to be quite a show. Get this: Facebook Bans Zero Hedge and this: Facebook takes down Elizabeth Warren ads calling for breakup of Facebook Rather than refute, Facebook is banning. And it thinks banning will work to silence major figures in our culture. And once the people at Facebook get into this habit, I predict they will go haywire. They are pissing off people of all persuasions. Man oh man... Michael It seems so extreme and irrational. I like to explore alternatives. What if MZ knows more than we do about what’s coming next, and it isn’t extreme and he isn’t irrational? If we adhere to him being smart, it implies he has no good options for what comes next and this is actually the best action for now. Why would she talk like that? She knows more than we? It all implies a huge bomb landing on Facebook and MZ in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 That was quick. Facebook backtracks after removing Warren ads calling for Facebook breakup And look here: Backroom deals anyone? To me, it's a plain as the sun in the sky. Oh... btw - Warren said nothing about Zero Hedge in her "social media marketplace that isn't dominated by a single censor." She would rather have one with multiple censors who answer to her. And I have no doubt she would ever lose sleep over Zero Hedge, which would merely be an egg that needs to be broken in order to make an omelette. To these folks, this is about power, not principle. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Aaaaaaand... Facebook Reverses Zero Hedge Ban, Says It Made A "Mistake" I wonder if a tweet by Donald Trump Jr. had anything to do with it... Or, on a more sinister level, I wonder if Facebook is censoring a whole shitload of others and using these high profile Ban-UnBan things to hog the press about it. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) A re-plug of the Dissenter app and online site. On 3/1/2019 at 11:48 AM, william.scherk said: Here is the top Dissent on the site ... https://dissenter.com/comment/5c889f307ac5a13381fe0a98 Another intriguing Dissent, for those that can't get enough of a good thing: https://dissenter.com/comment/5c890bdf556fd27d1f4d7d24 I haven't dug yet into the script that gives the green button on Youtube, but it's a useful addition for dissenters. Imagine if there was one on every OL page! Edited March 14, 2019 by william.scherk Added a pic of the newest feature of the extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 For those following this things, Tim Pool has, in my opinion, a correct analysis: It will take quite a while yet to die, but, barring some sudden development, it's past its peak and well into the slide down. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: For those following this things, Tim Pool has, in my opinion, a correct analysis: It will take quite a while yet to die, but, barring some sudden development, it's past its peak and well into the slide down. Michael Would you care to put that in writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Peter said: Would you care to put that in writing? Peter, Sure. Facebook keeps screwing its users by selling data (including letting access to people's private messages without their consent) and is facing serious one legal problem after another. So users are leaving in droves. Millennials have mostly abandoned Facebook. That means as they grow older, and Facebook's older users die off, what's left of Facebook will become like AOL where the same thing happened. There's more, but that's the gist. Micheal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Michael wrote, "There's more, but that's the gist." Thanks Michael. I was trying to make a joke. You had already put it in writing, so if you put writing into writing, you would be . . . John Grisham? I have never been to Face Book, but I remember vaguely a movie I glanced at on TV. AOL? I haven't heard those initials in a while. "You've got mail." I like watching movies from ten, twenty, or so years ago just to see the clunky computers. And I remember an old movie with an old car phone and the phone may have weighed 2 clunky pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 The hits just keep on coming. And I love it. The cure is simple. Big tech needs to go back to free speech instead of preaching it while practicing mind-control gate-keeping. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 From the BBC ... "US politician Devin Nunes sues Twitter over insults" ... See also a variety of slanted and mocking reports in the "news" here. From Memeorandum; the collective mood seems to be MOCK ... Spoiler TOP ITEMS: Aaron Blake / Washington Post: The ridiculousness of Devin Nunes suing ‘Devin Nunes’ cow' — and what it really signals — There is a Twitter account called “Devin Nunes' cow” that has tweeted nasty things about Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.). Evidently, the account is not actually run by a cow belonging to Nunes. Discussion: Molly Schuetz / Bloomberg: Anonymous Twitter Account Surges in Followers After Devin Nunes Lawsuit Nicole Lafond / Talking Points Memo: Nunes Whines About Twitter Trolls ‘Targeting’ Him, Says More Suits Coming Ed Morrissey / Hot Air: Clarence Thomas Gets His Wish: Nunes Sues Twitter, Satire Accounts For $250 Million Daily Kos: Devin Nunes sues Twitter, and Devin Nunes' cow, and Devin Nunes' mom, and it's hilarious Undercover Blue / Hullabaloo: Not ready for bovine time by @BloggersRUs RELATED: Gregg Re / Fox News: Nunes sues Twitter, some users, seeks over $250M alleging anti-conservative ‘shadow bans,’ smears — California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes filed a major lawsuit seeking $250 million in compensatory damages and $350,000 in punitive damages against Twitter and a handful of its users on Monday … Discussion: Justin Baragona / The Daily Beast: Fox News' Judge Napolitano Dismisses Devin Nunes' Twitter Lawsuit: ‘Novel Litigation’ to Get Attention Cat Zakrzewski / Washington Post: The Technology 202: Government using photos of visa applicants, dead people to test facial recognition software Emily Kopp / Roll Call: Rep. Devin Nunes says he's suing Twitter, parody account pretending to be his mom Jim Hoft / The Gateway Pundit: BOOM! Rep. Devin Nunes Sues Twitter for $250 Million in Damages for “Shadow-Banning” … Fox News Insider: Mike Huckabee on Twitter and Devin Nunes, Calls It Collusion Nicole Lafond / Talking Points Memo: Nunes Sues Twitter, Trolls For $250 Million For Allegedly ‘Shadow-Banning Conservatives’ Eric Lutz / Vanity Fair: Devin Nunes Sues Twitter, His “Mom,” for $250 Million Sara Carter / Sara A. Carter: Shadow Banning: Nunes Sues Twitter For $250 Million And More Lawsuits Expected Tom Tillison / Conservative News Today: ‘We have to hold them accountable’: Nunes drops massive $250 million lawsuit against Twitter, vows more to come Sarah K. Burris / Raw Story: Internet ridicules ‘snowflake’ Devin Nunes for suing parody accounts for ‘extreme pain and suffering’ Adi Robertson / The Verge: Devin Nunes sues Twitter for letting ‘Devin Nunes’ Mom' and ‘Devin Nunes’ Cow' insult him Kristina Wong / Breitbart: Devin Nunes Files Major Defamation Lawsuit Against Twitter Taylor Hatmaker / TechCrunch: Devin Nunes is suing Twitter over mean tweets from parody account of his mom Amber Athey / The Daily Caller: Twitter Censors ‘The Federalist’ Co-Founder Over Lisa Page Tweet Brett T. / twitchy.com: Rep. Devin Nunes files suit against Twitter alleging defamation and shadow-banning Rosemary Rossi / The Wrap: Congressman Devin Nunes Files $250M Complaint Against Twitter Fresno Bee: Devin Nunes sues Twitter, parody accounts and political strategist for $250 million: report Contemptor: Fox News' Judge Napolitano Dismisses Nunes Lawsuit: ‘Novel Litigation’ to Get Attention Ryan Mac / BuzzFeed News: California Congressman Says He's Suing Twitter For Allowing Parody Accounts Alleging To Be His Mom Elliot Hannon / Slate: Rep. Nunes Sues Twitter and Individual Users, Including @DevinNunesMom, for Defamation Colby Hall / Mediaite: Napolitano Pours Cold Water on Devin Nunes Shadow Ban Lawsuit: 'It's Not Illegal' Sophie Weiner / Splinter: Devin Nunes Is Suing Twitter Users Including ‘Devin Nunes’ Mom,' ‘Devin Nunes’ Cow' The Right Scoop: BREAKING: Devin Nunes just brought a BIG TIME defamation lawsuit against Twitter! Jason Easley / POLITICUSUSA: Trump Stooge Devin Nunes Sues Twitter For $250 Million After Getting Banned For Tweeting Russian Propaganda Ben Feuerherd / New York Post: Devin Nunes sues Twitter for defamation and ‘shadow banning’ conservatives T.LaDuke / RedState: BREAKING: Rep. Devin Nunes is Suing Twitter For 250 Million Dollars Catherine Garcia / The Week: GOP Rep. Devin Nunes sues Twitter for $250 million Khorri Atkinson / Axios: Devin Nunes suing Twitter over anti-conservative “shadow bans” more at Mediagazer » Daniel Chaitin / Washington Examiner: ‘Devin Nunes’ Cow' reacts to lawsuit: 'I'm not quitting my day job' — The user behind the “Devin Nunes' Cow” Twitter account won't be so easily cowed by Rep. Devin Nunes' lawsuit. — The California Republican is suing Twitter and a handful of users for defamation and “shadow banning,” … Discussion: Elham Khatami / ThinkProgress: Devin Nunes filed a lawsuit against his Twitter trolls and it backfired spectacularly The Daily Beast: Rep. Devin Nunes Files $250M Defamation Lawsuit Against Twitter, Two Anonymous Twitter Accounts Discussion: Gary Legum / Contemptor: Devin Nunes' Twitter Lawsuit Is Designed to Shut Down His Critics...and Ultimately Trump's Allyson Chiu / Washington Post: ‘This was an orchestrated effort’: Devin Nunes sues Twitter, ‘Devin Nunes’ cow' for defamation Richard Lawler / Engadget: Rep. Devin Nunes sues Twitter for $250 million over ‘@DevinNunesMom’ James Barrett / Daily Wire: Rep. Nunes Files Massive Lawsuit Against Twitter For Anti-Conservative Smear Campaigns Quint Forgey / Politico: Rep. Devin Nunes suing Twitter for $250 million Tamar Auber / Mediaite: Devin Nunes' Twitter Lawsuit Gets Hilariously Mocked on Twitter: ‘A Crybaby and a Hack’ Victor Morton / Washington Times: Devin Nunes files $250 million lawsuit over Twitter conservative ‘shadow bans’ Evie Fordham / The Daily Caller: GOP Rep Devin Nunes Sues Twitter For $250 Million Daniel Victor / New York Times: Devin Nunes Sues Twitter for Allowing Accounts to Insult Him Discussion: Emily Singer / Shareblue Media: Devin Nunes files lawsuit because people were mean on Twitter Joe Jervis / Joe.My.God.: GOP Rep. Devin Nunes Sues Twitter For $250 Million Madeline Osburn / The Federalist: Devin Nunes Sues Twitter And Anonymous Accounts For $250 Million CNBC: Stocks set for gains | Bezos' texts sold | SEC: Musk never sought tweet approval Patterico's Pontifications: Devin Nunes Sues Everyone, Including His Mom* Sarah K. Burris / Raw Story: Devin Nunes parody accounts spike in Twitter followers after Congressman's lawsuit Erika Martin / KTLA: California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes Sues Twitter, Parody Accounts for Defamation "Nunes" in OL comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, william.scherk said: From Memeorandum; the collective mood seems to be MOCK ... The collective mood of propagandists, not collective mood of everybody. Propagandists... I prefer reasoned fact-filled discourse from a man who is one of the few who actually debated Jack Dorsey in public. (How many of the propagandists in the howling mob can say that?) I don't agree with Tim Poole on many things, but he's no propagandist. I am a fan of his. In this post you are reading right now and the one preceding it, you have the entire theme of a Rand-based website. Should we go with a howling mob of fake news media propagandists, or with reason expressed by an individual independent thinker doing his honest best (and, incidentally, due to his talent, changing the world for the better)? Don't forget the pure futility of the howling mob mocking President Trump when he started his election campaign. With Trump, once again, an independent individual using reason stepped up and changed the world for the better. So which is it? A mindless herd or a man of the mind? Choose your side. I've chosen mine. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Propagandists who are next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: So which is it? A mindless herd or a man of the mind? Choose your side. I've chosen mine. This may be viewed as a false alternative. Also known as false dichotomy, black-and-white fallacy, false binary, false comparison. Edited March 20, 2019 by william.scherk Added video of Devin Nunes on Hannity at Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, william.scherk said: This may be viewed as a false alternative. William, And it also can be viewed as a priority, which is what I do. Obviously, we all live in a collective society and it influences us. And just as obviously we are all individuals. But which one kicks in first when one decides to trash a person or do something great? That's what one chooses--the default priority. For example, at a football game, you can choose to root for your team right along with the mindless herd. You give vent and catharsis to that impulse that is in all of us. It's fun and there's nothing wrong with it. That's why we put satisfying this impulse into a structured safe environment with a game to observe. But when one is faced a mindless mob of fake news mockery and sees it is also possible to hunt down facts and think critically, but chooses the mindless mob as default--and implies that this is everybody to boot, one has turned off the critical reasoning individual inside one's soul. That's fun, too. It's icky fun, but still fun. To be clear, the guy who hunts down facts and uses his brain on purpose under his own individual command lives in a collective and is influenced by it, but that collective influence is distant when he is using his brain in this manner. The person who gives over to the ecstasy of mob outrage and mob mockery in the place of using his brain is also an individual, but his individual will is practically asleep at the time. Think of it like a seesaw where both sides never go away and the board raises one side up in the gravitational pull--instead of an on-off button. Then it becomes a clearer metaphor than the filter you are using. So the false alternative you mentioned is nothing more than a semantics game used for muddying clear water. Like I said, I go with the man of the mind as my default priority (except when the Patriots are playing ). Others go with the mindless herd. We all make our choices. But then we have to live with the consequences of our choices. And those consequences will not go away with a gotcha or put down. Reality is cruel like that. It's indifferent to snark. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 btw - One can view Nunes as a self-pitying creep playing a victimhood card, or one can view him as using a legal resource to illuminate bigoted actions the creepy big brother wannabees in the tech giants want to keep hidden. Especially since their bigotry is the sole factor in them trying to cheat to influence elections. Also, Nunes could possibly punish them for their misbehavior if he wins the lawsuit (to any extent). I, myself, in your shoes would not dismiss the legal talent Nunes has accumulated just so I could laugh at him along with the fake news media mob your side often uses for its brains. (btw - I doubt the Twitter people are joining in the merriment.) People on your side did that same brainless mob thing recently and President Trump got elected. They did that same brainless mob thing with Gawker and now it's bust. They did that same brainless mob thing with Salon and suddenly it couldn't even pay its rent. I could go on and on because the examples about. So I say yuk it up. Schadenfreude is not my favorite pleasure, but I am an enthusiastic imbiber when it is offered and a brainless vicious mob deserves its comeuppance. Some of the individuals on your side have good independent minds when they turn them on. I wish more would do that, but, with sporadic exceptions, they don't. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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