Mikee Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 http://www.upworthy.com/a-whole-new-way-to-think-about-stress-that-changes-everything-weve-been-taught-2Ya know, I always thought stress was good for you. As in "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". But my dealing with afib the last few years made me question this...and I started feeling about 100 times more stressed. As soon as I started worrying about being stressed it nearly killed me. I think I'll dial it all the way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 http://www.upworthy.com/a-whole-new-way-to-think-about-stress-that-changes-everything-weve-been-taught-2Ya know, I always thought stress was good for you. As in "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". But my dealing with afib the last few years made me question this...and I started feeling about 100 times more stressed. As soon as I started worrying about being stressed it nearly killed me. I think I'll dial it all the way back.My AFIB was cured by ablation. Not a drop of blood spilled.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 http://www.upworthy.com/a-whole-new-way-to-think-about-stress-that-changes-everything-weve-been-taught-2Ya know, I always thought stress was good for you. As in "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". But my dealing with afib the last few years made me question this...and I started feeling about 100 times more stressed. As soon as I started worrying about being stressed it nearly killed me. I think I'll dial it all the way back.My AFIB was cured by ablation. Not a drop of blood spilled.Ba'al Chatzaf I'm a little over a year from a second ablation. So far so good. I was doing well after the first one for a few months, then started in with bouts of flutter and atrial tachycardia. Very uncomfortable. HR at 155 for 24 hours is a bit unnerving. It turns out long term high intensity aerobic exercise predisposes one to afib. Increases your chances of getting it later by several times. Who knew? I ran 50 miles a week at about 7 min/mile for years plus martial arts, bike riding, hiking, weight lifting, rock climbing. I thought I made myself bullet proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Here, let's put the video up from the Upworthy curation.It's on YouTube. (I'm watching it now.)Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Thanks Michael! About 3/4ths of the way through she talks about the positive parts of stress, the hormonal reactions to stress are good if you have the right frame of mind. I thought of Greg and "anti-fragile". A positve view of stress is definitely anti-fragile. POV is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm a little over a year from a second ablation. So far so good. I was doing well after the first one for a few months, then started in with bouts of flutter and atrial tachycardia. Very uncomfortable. HR at 155 for 24 hours is a bit unnerving. It turns out long term high intensity aerobic exercise predisposes one to afib. Increases your chances of getting it later by several times. Who knew? I ran 50 miles a week at about 7 min/mile for years plus martial arts, bike riding, hiking, weight lifting, rock climbing. I thought I made myself bullet proof.No one is "bullet proof" in the end we are all going to get old, rot in stages and then die.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I ran 50 miles a week at about 7 min/mile for years plus martial arts, bike riding, hiking, weight lifting, rock climbing. I thought I made myself bullet proof.According to Dr. Russell Blaylock, there is such a thing as too much exercise. The reason is it uses up too much antioxidants. But he is thumbs up on getting some exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 When I posted Kelly McGonigal's video earlier today, I thought to myself, that sounds like the willpower woman. Now that I have just finished, I know it is.The Willpower Instinct: How Self-Control Works, Why It Matters, and What You Can Do to Get More of It. I have this book, but I have only skimmed it. I have read another, Willpower: Rediscovering the Greatest Human Strength by Baumeister and Tierney and they seem to say close to the same thing (willpower is organic and it physically tires, it consumes a lot of calories, etc.). Good stuff.Re the stress lecture, as a former drug addict and a person who loves Rand's works, it seemed odd to contemplate snorting oxytocin in order to become more altruistic because that would be good for me. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Michael,Her identical sister is pretty interesting too. I like the resilience theme in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Mike,LOL...I have her book, Reality Is Broken: Why Games Make Us Better and How They Can Change the World.Gamification is the big thing these days with marketing. I'm surprised at how well OL does with traffic because I have not done any of this stuff on the site, or any promotion for that matter.We are raw.Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Stress can be constructive or destructive depending on how we respond to it. Stress can be utilized just like training with weights to develop the inner strength of patience.I really like Zen meditation because all you do is sit still be aware of everything around you as well as inside of you including any physical symptoms... but without trying to do anything about them. Just neutrally and objectively noting their presence without reacting emotionally to them. There is something beneficial about calm centered self awareness that creates a positive feedback loop inside which can rob symptoms of their reasons to exist......and without a cause for being there, they go away and leave you alone. Sometimes the reason for a symptom to exist is simply being bothered by it. But if it can no longer upset us, there is no emotional energy on which to feed, so it gives up and leaves.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaalChatzaf Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Stress can be constructive or destructive depending on how we respond to it. Stress can be utilized just like training with weights to develop the inner strength of patience.I really like Zen meditation because all you do is sit still be aware of everything around you as well as inside of you including any physical symptoms... but without trying to do anything about them. Just neutrally and objectively noting their presence without reacting emotionally to them. There is something beneficial about calm centered self awareness that creates a positive feedback loop inside which can rob symptoms of their reasons to exist......and without a cause for being there, they go away and leave you alone. Sometimes the reason for a symptom to exist is simply being bothered by it. But if it can no longer upset us, there is no emotional energy on which to feed, so it gives up and leaves.GregAn not all stress is the same at its root. Muscular/physical stress is physiologically different from emotional stress. One can give you aches and the other can eat you up from the inside.Ba'al Chatzaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moralist Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Stress can be constructive or destructive depending on how we respond to it. Stress can be utilized just like training with weights to develop the inner strength of patience.I really like Zen meditation because all you do is sit still be aware of everything around you as well as inside of you including any physical symptoms... but without trying to do anything about them. Just neutrally and objectively noting their presence without reacting emotionally to them. There is something beneficial about calm centered self awareness that creates a positive feedback loop inside which can rob symptoms of their reasons to exist......and without a cause for being there, they go away and leave you alone. Sometimes the reason for a symptom to exist is simply being bothered by it. But if it can no longer upset us, there is no emotional energy on which to feed, so it gives up and leaves.GregAn not all stress is the same at its root. All stress has a root... and many times that root can be our own behavior. How we respond to stress can be the very behavior which perpetuates it.Muscular/physical stress is physiologically different from emotional stress. Sometimes... and other times it is a physical symptom of failing to meet stress with the proper response. One can give you aches and the other can eat you up from the inside. ...and what eats you up from the inside can also give you aches. The irony is all too frequently people only feel the pain in their foot while stubbornly refusing to acknowledge the gun in their hand. That approach has NO real resolution... and which by default leaves only the narcoculture religion of perpetually fighting symptoms as if they were the enemy, using the "holy sacraments" of pharmaceuticals. It's a dead end, Bob. Go back. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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