Firearms

[Backlighting]

They've gone stupid-silly.

I'm all for these idiots taking their clothes off in public.

I'm all for people living in such states getting what they deserve, including more people packing up and moving to somewhere more rational. New York is so bad even California is better. (It's the climate.)

I made the move from New Jersey in 1995--high taxes and gun laws.

--Brant

in AZ it's open carry or concealed carry with cc permit your personal option (we are number 1 best in the west and all the rest [of the world])

I did a hopscotch.

First, out of NYC in '78 to S. Cal.

Better weather and still Reagan country when I arrived, especially Orange County.

Over the years taxes & cost of living climbed substantially, freeways became parking lots and Pelosi & Co. took control...See ya.

Second, on to Las Vegas in 2002.

Cost of living much less, great eats & entertainment, politically light yrs. to the right of Cali, desert climate (almost non existent humidity).

-J

[Jules Troy]

Wish the US would make Alberta their next state..

[Backlighting]

Ban semiautomatic pistols that accept detachable magazines!

The beat goes on & on...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/15/washington-state-dem-introduces-bill-banning-possession-of-assault-weapons/

[Backlighting]

Well, if the N.Y. "legislators" can't prevent law abiding citizens from getting firearms, they'll just prevent them from getting ammo.

This is un-f...ing believable:

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/21/brooklyn-lawmakers-seek-tightly-restrict-sales-ammo-statewide

Just came across this. More rubbish.

It's the N.Y. SAFE(?) ACT, enacted on January 15, 2013

http://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/governor.ny.gov/files/archive/assets/documents/NYSAFEAct_FAQs.pdf

-J

[Backlighting]

Firearms trade show in L.V.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2016/01/19/more-than-half-million-rounds-kick-off-shot-show-in-las-vegas.html?intcmp=hpbt1

[Backlighting]

Concealed carry for students?

http://wkrg.com/2016/01/18/house-bill-seeks-to-allow-concealed-carry-on-colleges/

[Backlighting]

Gun background checks for Jan. '16 sets record.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/gun-sales-set-yet-another-record/

[Mike82ARP]

I got to love our Sheriff Ivey.  Being a former LEO (wife too) getting a CCW was pretty easy.   Because when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/florida-sheriff-asks-concealed-carry-holders-take-terrorists/

[Backlighting]

In Kalifornia, the shit just keeps getting thicker. From Breibart.com:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/04/19/licensed-gun-dealer-ban-committee-ca/

[Backlighting]

Update: good news here AB 2459, the bill that we called the worst bill of the session that sought to put all gun dealers out of business and record everyone who pulled in to the parking lot of a gun store, was killed in the Privacy Committee today!

Now the bad news: The bills that passed out of committee today were:

-AB 2510 eliminates uniformity for CCW permits, putting permit holders and law enforcement at greater risk.

-SB 880 immediately bans and forces the registration of millions of semi-automatic weapons in common use.

-SB 894 mandates lost and stolen reporting within five days and penalizes individuals for reports that are turned in even a day late.

-SB 1006 allows the University of California to conduct biased gun violence research.

-SB 1037 extends the statute of limitations on certain non-violent firearms related crimes, mostly having to do with paperwork.

-SB 1235 is a measure that we believe will eventually include mandatory ammo tracking and purchase permits.

-SB 1407 is De Leon’s version of the “Ghost Gun” ban.

-SB 1446 bans all “standard” capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

These bills now head to the Appropriations Committee, where we are confident we can get some of them held up due to fiscal concerns.

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/alerts/alert-fpc-led-coalition-kills-ab-2459-8-of-10-other-anti-gun-bills-pass/?mc_cid=a103ff3ffc&mc_eid=e5750b3398

[Backlighting]

Here's a report the anti-gunners will no doubt dislike, or, blank-out.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/20/colorado-campus-carry-12-years-no-mass-shootings-no-crimes-by-permit-holders/

[Backlighting]

Winchester is celebrating its150th. yr. anniversary in 2016. Now that's an achievement, considering...in addition to the intense competition...the firearms industry is right up there, in terms of regulation, with the oil, coal and the pharmaceutical sectors of the U.S. economy. --J

You can read about the company here:

http://www.winchester150th.com/index.html

[merjet]

16 minutes ago, Backlighting said:

Winchester is celebrating its150th. yr. anniversary in 2016. Now that's an achievement, considering...in addition to the intense competition...the firearms industry is right up there, in terms of regulation, with the oil, coal and the pharmaceutical sectors of the U.S. economy. --J

You can read about the company here:

http://www.winchester150th.com/index.html

Congratulations to them. Also to Remington Arms celebrating its 200th anniversary this year.

http://www.remington.com/

http://www.remington.com/country

As a young man I rode with my truck-driving brother from SE Missouri to Ilion, NY. He hauled a 53-foot trailer filled with rough-cut gun stocks.

[Backlighting]

1 minute ago, merjet said:

Congratulations to them. Also to Remington Arms celebrating its 200th anniversary this year.

http://www.remington.com/

http://www.remington.com/country

Certainly that also warrants a hat tip to Remington. Thanks for the heads-up Merjet. --J

 

[Backlighting]

Here's a short, good read pertaining to when you may use lethal force (firearm). It's paramount to know your State laws.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/time-kill-lethal-force-can-used/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20160506_FridayDigest_28&utm_campaign=/blog/time-kill-lethal-force-can-used/

 

 

[Backlighting]

Kalifornia close to regulating ammo sales. Legislators passed a bill detailing such. It now goes to Governor Moonbeam for his signature:

http://concealednation.org/2016/05/california-about-to-require-background-checks-for-ammunition/

[Backlighting]

Faster Than a Speeding Bullet: A First Look at America's Supergun

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/faster-than-a-speeding-bullet-a-first-look-at-americas-supergun/ar-BBtyPuZ?ocid=spartandhp

[BaalChatzaf]

27 minutes ago, Backlighting said:

Faster Than a Speeding Bullet: A First Look at America's Supergun

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/faster-than-a-speeding-bullet-a-first-look-at-americas-supergun/ar-BBtyPuZ?ocid=spartandhp

Gun powder is so..... retro.

[Backlighting]

On 5/27/2016 at 7:10 PM, BaalChatzaf said:

Gun powder is so..... retro.

It sure is, with perhaps the exception of it's usefulness (hand gun & rifle ammunition) for close quarters confrontations.   -J

[Backlighting]

Scotland tightening it's grip on firearms and airguns(!)

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/over-12-000-weapons-surrendered-in-airgun-amnesty-1-4160230

[Backlighting]

U.S. Gatling guns placed on North Korea boats

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2016/06/28/Source-US-Gatling-guns-placed-on-North-Korea-boats/7541467128633/

[Backlighting]

California's New Gun Laws

By Jeremy B. White jwhite@sacbee.com

Being a California gun owner just got more complicated.

Bolstering a body of firearms laws already considered among the nation’s strongest, Gov. Jerry Brown last week signed a half-dozen bills to regulate ammunition sales, ban large-capacity clips and quick-reloading devices and clamp down on lending weapons, among other things.

Some hunters and shooters have reacted with a mix of dismay and confusion, wondering what they will have to do to remain law-abiding citizens and asking if they will need to change their habits.

“I haven’t broken any laws. I’m a Boy Scout. For 20 years I’ve made every effort to stay completely legal because gun rights are so important to me,” said John Spier, a competitive shooter who lives in Visalia. “These laws are going to affect me and those like me a lot more than they’re going to affect criminals.”

Here are answers to some of the more common questions and concerns that arose in interviews with gun owners.

Q: Do I have to get a permit to buy ammunition?

A: No. But under Senate Bill 1235 as of July 2019 you will need to pass a background check, which involves the vendor running your information through a California Department of Justice system to see if you are prohibited from owning guns (for example, because of a violent felony). If not, you should be clear to buy.

Q: What if I go hunting across state lines and buy ammo there?

A: Let’s say you travel to Oregon for some duck hunting and buy boxes of ammunition while outside of California. You can bring at most 50 rounds back in to the state. Any more than that and you could be hit with a misdemeanor.

Q: Who’s going to enforce that?

A: The same law enforcement agencies like sheriffs, police officers and Department of Justice agents who already enforce gun laws. For example, the department already works to intercept people who cannot own guns in California but try to get them across the border from other states.

Hunters might already be familiar with Department of Agriculture border checkpoints, which exist to ensure people aren’t bringing banned fruit and vegetables, illegally poached game or out-of-state afflictions like chronic wasting disease into California. There is no plan to set up new checkpoints to check whether people are bringing ammunition, but people could face questions about ammo at the agricultural stops.

If you are purchasing ammunition in California, going hunting in another state and then returning with more than 50 rounds, keep a record of the sale to establish it’s on the level.

Q: Can I give or sell my friends and family excess ammunition?

A: You can sell up to 50 rounds a month directly to immediate relatives and give as much as you want to friends or family. You cannot sell to a friend unless the transaction goes through a licensed ammunition dealer or you both are licensed hunters out on a hunt and you don’t sell more than 50 rounds a month.

Q: I own a gun with a detachable magazine. Am I breaking the law?

A: Two bills, Senate Bill 880 and Assembly Bill 1135, sought to close what law enforcement groups and gun control advocates call the “bullet-button” loophole. California law already prohibited assault weapons, defined as those with magazines that can be detached without disassembling the gun or using a tool.

But some gun owners reacted to that by employing so-called “bullet-button” devices that can quickly release spent magazines without running afoul of the ban, seeing as they allow users to eject magazines using tools like another magazine.

The new laws would, as of the start of 2017, ban the sale of semi-automatic, centerfire rifles or semi-automatic pistols that do not have a fixed magazine and also have one from a list of specific design features.

Q: So if I have an old gun that fits that definition, do I have to get rid of it?

A: Not if you bought it between 2001 and 2016. But you will need to register it with the California Department of Justice by the start of 2018. You can find a form online at https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/forms, and it should cost at most $20.

Both under the old and the new definition, to be banned for sale guns also need to have a characteristic from a list that includes things like a protruding pistol grip, a thumbhole stock, a folding stock, a flash suppressor or a grenade launcher. In other words, what are often referred to as “military-style” features.

So guns like hunting rifles with detachable magazines won’t necessarily be banned, as long as they don’t have one of those “military-style” design features the state uses to define assault weapons.

Q: My dad owns a semi-automatic with a detachable magazine that fits the new definition of an assault weapon. Will I be able to inherit it when he dies or buy it from him?

A: No. Unless he modifies the gun so it’s not longer classified as an assault weapon, that now counts as an illegal sale or transfer.

Q: My hunting company regularly lends customers guns. Is that now illegal?

A: No. Assembly Bill 1511 cracks down on loaning guns, with advocates arguing the practice serves to skirt background check requirements.

But an existing exemption for hunters remains in place, so hunting guides can still lend their customers firearms as part of their businesses if those customers have hunting licenses and only use the guns during the established hunting season.

Family members can lend one another guns provided it doesn’t happen that often: less than six times a year for handguns and, for other guns, if it’s “occasional and without regularity.”

Outside of that, you won’t be able to loan guns to others starting in January 2017.

Q: Some of the guns I use take magazines that carry more than 10 rounds. What do I do with them?

A: Senate Bill 1446 prohibits the possession of magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds as of July 2017. That expands on an existing state law barring the sale and import of such magazines.

So you might need to get rid of old high-volume magazines by destroying them, selling them to licensed gun dealers or handing them in to law enforcement. But, as with the bullet-button bills, there are some exceptions written in.

If you own a gun that only takes such large-capacity magazines, and bought it before the start of 2000, you can keep the magazines that go with it provided you only use them for that gun.

Q: I’m a competitive shooter and use guns with large-capacity magazines. Can I continue practicing my sport in California?

A: Some shooting competitions use guns that accept magazines larger than those California now prohibits. Participants have been able to get around that until now provided their magazines are old enough that they didn’t buy them before California outlawed sales of such magazines.

But now, if your gun can take a lower-capacity magazine, you have to use it while in California.

[SteveWolfer]

This will most likely go to the Supreme Court.  If Hillary wins the election, her appointment is likely to be far enough to the left to encourage a majority decision that boldly declares that the second amendment really doesn't mean that private citizens get to actually own guns.
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Q. If a person is a terrorist, or just wants to engage in a mass shooting, will these new regulations apply to them?

A. Yes.  They should understand that if they don't register properly they won't be within the law even before they begin shooting.

[BaalChatzaf]

2 hours ago, SteveWolfer said:

This will most likely go to the Supreme Court.  If Hillary wins the election, her appointment is likely to be far enough to the left to encourage a majority decision that boldly declares that the second amendment really doesn't mean that private citizens get to actually own guns.
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Q. If a person is a terrorist, or just wants to engage in a mass shooting, will these new regulations apply to them?

A. Yes.  They should understand that if they don't register properly they won't be within the law even before they begin shooting.

Possession of fire arms and the freedom to use them legally will become a privilege,  rather than a  legally guaranteed right.  

If the supreme court makes possession and use of any lethal instrument a regulated privilege we will have to apply for permission to have axes,  sharp knives, spears  and  arrows.  Even slings will become subject to licensing....  And rocks????

[Backlighting]

2 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said:

Possession of fire arms and the freedom to use them legally will become a privilege,  rather than a  legally guaranteed right.  

If the supreme court makes possession and use of any lethal instrument a regulated privilege we will have to apply for permission to have axes,  sharp knives, spears  and  arrows.  Even slings will become subject to licensing....  And rocks????

I am reminded, more often than I care to remember, what AR once wrote:

"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force"