Ellen Stuttle Posted September 2, 2013 Author Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ninth,I'm not following what your schtick is. Best I can tell, it's the idea that the development was thoroughly irrational. If so, I disagree (and with Brant's quip in #71). In terms of which doctrines ultimately prevailed, I think that one factor, though far from the only one, was who had the political power.In terms of preferences for direct revelation versus textual authority (it's written) versus intellectual defense (employing reason to support belief), there are different preferences to this day and I'd suppose there always have been.Matthew, for instance, was keen on fulfillment-of-scripture grounding for his narrative. The Ebionites, according to Ehrman's discussion, insisted on the Jewishness of Jesus, on following Jewish scripture, and on the requirement of circumcision. Ehrman says (pg. 192, Jesus, Interrupted), "Some scholars have thought that the Ebionites may have held views very much like those of the first followers of Jesus, such as his brother James or his disciple Peter [...]."In any event, I see lots of evidence contra the idea that revelation was the primary preferred path, even among subsequent generations deriving from Paul. A number of the letters attributed to Paul in the eventual canon aren't by him, and there were lots of forgeries. Why would someone make an attempt to pass his work off as written by Paul if not a desire for authoritative sanction?Regarding how various doctrines developed, Bob Kolker, G-D bless him, has provided a missing step I was looking for in contemplating the disjunct between the prophesied Messiah of Matthew and Luke and the divine incarnation of John. That step is provided by the intermediary melding the idea of the Jewish God with the Greek idea logos.Ellen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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