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Last month or this month is the 50th anniversary of a "debate" between Albert Ellis and Nathaniel Branden in the New Yorker hotel. I think it was at 34th St and 8th Ave. Maybe 1200 showed up, only a few hundred at most Ellis fans. Ayn Rand was there and likely the entire New York Objectivist community to speak of. Not me; I was still in Vietnam. There was a huge contretemps centered on a thoroughly pissed off Rand, according to Elllis is his retaliatory book called Is Objectivism A Religion? This was the height of the Objectivist sub-culture which was centered in NYC. Back then if you were an adherent of the philosophy you were on the side of right with nary a night in sight much less on site. You knew absolute philosophical basic truths and just about everything Rand hung on that tree. And the center of THAT was morality, formally expressed in "The Objectivist Ethics." It was extremely in-the-head powerful. There were Ayn Rand-Objectivism college groupings all around the country. Tape transcriptions of NBI course locations numbered about 80. There was no intellectual opposition. The conservatives were a joke. The liberals practiced the art of ignoring Rand. College profs didn't want Rand papers. Then came 1968. The height of the Vietnam War protests and Chicago riots. The liberals turned their backs on intellectual endeavors and went to force. NBI blew up. Americans lost faith in their county's leadership and so did Objectivists in theirs. That was the year everything changed. --Brant there--NYC there--when it happened