Nerian

I like your analogy. It's very insightful. Thank you.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. It's so hard to believe anyone is gonna have a cure for the pain of living.

If life is the problem, then not life is surely a solution. ;)

Haha. Ah, if only I could.

Suicide is always an option.

I've read "Six Pillars of Self Esteem", and listened to the audio book, and I found it very revelatory. I really liked it. It's very useful if you already enjoy living, but not of much use if you find life to be endless drudgery. The ideas in the book were helpful for my self esteem, no doubt. But that's not really my problem. My problem is just that there's nothing in life worth the pain of living it. and I can't even envisage any life that would be worth living. I've gone about my business and found it to be drag. That was the question. Let's say you follow the logic and agree with it, you set about achieving life, and you find the whole affair utterly miserable. It's not a matter of permitting, it just is that way. Perhaps you have such power over your own mind but I don't. My emotions are not within my direct control. If they were, there would be no problem. Why would I want to feel miserable all the time? That makes no sense. I know not how to control my own mind that way. Perhaps you can explain it.

Ayn Rand was clued in. I've had the thought that it makes total sense that only a woman could portray the ideal man. You should read the part in the Journals of Ayn Rand where she is describing Roark's character. It's pretty fucked up. She says he could essentially rape Dominique and feel justified about it. He wants her but it wouldn't bother him if he didn't get her. Just the most hardcore badboy who doesn't give af you can imagine.

I frankly disagree. I can see the logic. It doesn't make the experience of living feel worth it. Logic and thinking isn't going to change how the experience feels. I can agree with your sterile logic all day. It doesn't change a thing about how life feels moment to moment.

I'm not sure how any of this relates to my problem of not finding life at all worth living.

Honestly, I don't think I have good bad premises. It doesn't matter how intellectually you agree that your life is your standard of value, it doesn't make the first hand experience of living it actually feel worth any value. Edit: I meant to write, "Honestly, I don't think I have bad premises." Sorry. That really changes the meaning lol. During writing it I edited the sentence and didn't fix the end. For future readers, I'll note that at time of editing, there were only two responses: the two responses were by Anthony and Wolf DeVoon

I think you misunderstood my meaning. You don't need to know all things, you can specialize in your own field, to provide value for others who know other things, and then trade the products. ie. You don't need to know engineering, that's what earning money is for.

In my life nothing has moved me as much as the beauty of girl. Am I the only one? I'm serious.

Maybe they aren't distractions, but your true values. I dunno. Sometimes I wonder... if your values were really your values wouldn't you value them?

Well they suggested to see a psychologist. I dunno how talking to someone is gonna make me enjoy life, but I guess they want me to do that before they drug me up. I'm pretty much ready to be a zombie.

Are you saying everyone has to study astrophysics to be healthy or am I reading you incorrectly?

You literally can do without it, personally. Humanity cannot. Massive difference. That's what money is for.

Yeah... it seems like that's what I need to do.

I'd prefer to enjoy living. I just don't see how.

My questions just reflect my life as experienced. I'm sure some people feel their lives are worth living and do enjoy their lives. I've asked several of my friends and they claim they do enjoy their lives.

Could life really be worth living if it were nothing but pain?

The significance of AlphaGo is how it achieved its narrow intelligence. The algorithm that produced AlphaGo is general purpose, and it computes using principles inspired by how the brain works. It's not AlphaGo, but the algorithms that produce AlphaGo that are astounding. These algorithms are building blocks on the road to general intelligence. They are just using games as a way to test their technology.

Since there's been some negative reactions, I'd like to voice my support for this technology. LFTRs are a real solution to all our energy problems. You can generate hydrocarbon fuel by pulling the CO2 from the atmosphere using the energy produced by the reactor. Since you already pulled it from the atmosphere, there's no net increase of CO2 when you burn it. Economical, locally produced and environmentally neutral. Just imagine it. Cheap, unlimited carbon-neutral gasoline and diesel without lining the pockets of Putin and the Saudis. And all just based on well understood science, no breakthrough required. Edit: By the way, the Chinese are gonna do this anyway.

David Harriman mentioned pilot-wave theory in his series "Philosophic Corruption of Physics" For those who are interested in a conceptual look at how the randomness of quantum mechanics could be explained causally: It's a very positive sign to see mainstream science considering causality as viable again. This is my favourite theory of quantum mechanics for the simple reason that in my mind it's the ONLY theory of quantum mechanics. It's probably no deep philosophical shift, but I guess that after half a century of non-theories, physicists are getting bored enough to try something else.

Weird.

You wake up. Beep beep beep beep beep. The alarm screams at you. WAKE UP. Another day of living! What's on the menu today? Living, of course. Lots of work to be done to avoid the pain of entropy. Boring, drudgery, mainly. Task after task. And mounting tiredness and fatigue as you do it. A mildly unpleasant experience all day, powered only on will power, on the thought that if you don't do it, you'll experience more pain. What does the future have to offer? Well, more of this! Forever, every day, until you die. You collapse. Tomorrow, you get to do it all again. You drift off to sleep. This is the best part of life. Not being awake. It won't last long though, before the alarm rouses you from your unconscious bliss. "Beep beep beep beep beep. Get up, or suffer the consequences." All this just to gain the privilege of avoiding even greater pain, and so you can go on living so you can keep on experiencing more of that. And from time to time, you can cash in all this suffering for some enjoyment, and eat a piece of chocolate, jerk off, and watch a movie. All in all, your conversion ratio is about 1 unit of enjoyment from 1000 units of suffering.