zarxo

Very nice and even though am intocicated on New Year's Day, I would like to reinforce the logic that you just persuaded! Zarxo

Here is my sum. Sex is sex, love is love. They are both separate and can be experienced separately CONSCIOUSLY; however, if you can find both in one person, then you've found a good "thing". Also, as values change, the person who you love, may change, which results in falling out of love. Pefectly normal if the other partner is not conscious of you growing and changing. I do think true love, the kind that just smacks the universe, can happen but I think that type of love is more of a finding someone who is the objective image of your subjective soul. Hence the widely used term, "soul mates". Part of being human is sexual desires, just know your intent when sex is involved and be frank to the other person too. Not all times will the outcome be as expected; especially when another person is involved. There is a saying that I have, "unspoken expectations", just know that it exists and logic will see you through. zarxo Before I get into my own considerations, I would love to hear some of yours. (I am still shuddering...) Michael

You are being not only conscious at that moment but you are also thinking of how others are thinking. They are being mechanical and you just "care". They are not necessarily wrong but that are just not "there" as you are. Just observe and integrate what you are seeing into your consciousness, don't let it beat you down. Enjoying the game aren't you? :frantics: You should relay this thought to the player that you are talking about, that is, if you both are friends. I am sure it will open new doors for you. Remember, pick your battles, part of being an efficacious man is to use "your energy" wisley. Sometimes its hard to do when you get all caught up in the moment but as time goes on, you will control that part of you better. Just remember most of those people are not even aware of why they are hating this guy, so its useless to throw pearls before swine. Keep thinking, but don't let it steal your fun! zarxo