Thanks for the welcome Michael to you and all. [Apologies for the length of this post here, but it further explains where my thoughts are at now on objectivist ideas, as opposed to how I got here.] Let me add to my initial post by saying that my great attraction to this site was firstly it emphasises "living consciously". That is a great strap line to use on the front page. Wonderful. I totally agree with your comments Michael on Neo-Tech and Wallace. Indeed, as you suggest, perhaps those within the Objectivist academic circle could learn to market these ideas better and be more agressive in showing how the ideas do relate to practical issues of day-to-day living. Of course, marketing / business are not the strong suit of academics and so it is the businessmen (such as Wallace) and artists (such as my countryman, Nicholas Dykles) who need to carry this particular responsibilty forward along with the rest of us, even the non-artists, like myself (I am an accountant by profession). It would be fantastic to see a greater fictional representation of the ideas of objectivism than currently exist, especially in the movies and in theatres, but where are these objectivist artists who can inspire? That for me is the challenge. Perhaps ARI's school program will tempt young people of today to be those future artists who can demonstrate the ideas of what it means to live life as a human being. There is some hope at least through that tremendous value and unfortunately I can only dream of the day when Rand's fiction appears in our school classrooms. At this point I am pleased to say I have had the pleasure of reading Nicholas Dyles's novel, "Old Nick's Guide to Happiness" this summer. I see he has recently joined this site also. It brought me great joy to see explict philosophical ideas expressed in layman terms within a fantastic story. The writing style was a beautiful example of how ideas can be explained and it is a book to include on all your gift lists this Xmas. I must also recommend Ed Cline's Sparrowhawk series, another superb demonstration of objectivist ideas though the actions of great characters. Somehow, we all need to come up with a myriad of ways to demonstrate the practical use of these ideas we support, by creating products for people to buy that will help guide or inspire them to better actions. A pincer attack through business and the arts woud increase our challenge against the modern yet distorted and threatened society we live in. Of course, for those of us not so creative in business or the arts, the option of intellectual activism is always there. Despite what I have said about the lack of intellectual comment in the UK, it is pleasing to report to all of you Stateside that Ayn Rand's name has been receiving great coverage in the broadsheet press over here this summer against the background of the financial crisis. Indeed, BBC Radio Four (our nationwide intellectual radio station - left-wing of course) recently dedicated a 30 minute programme to Rand presented by a well-known former politician who maintains a high profile. So, there is some hope this side of the pond, and perhaps you will be happy if I can provide this site with evidence of the increasing exposure to Rand in the media as and when it occurs here in England (Britain). Finally, I would like to add that for me, whilst I am interested in ideas, I am less interested in the personailities behind the ideas, and by this I mean whether people such as Rand, Branden or Piekoff, are/were, or are/were not, consistent in living by the ideas they "promote" [i am sure there is a better word than "promote" but I am sure you get the gist]. It's the businessman in me. This is one reason why I have not joined an objectivist discussion forum before. I am aware of the schism(s) in objectivism, but for me, the focus must always be on promoting ideas that are beneficial to human life. I have read the two Branden books on Ayn Rand, as well as Valliant's book, out of biographical interest, than what thye all think of each other, but quite frankly, I do not care too much for what they have to say about each other. The only important thing in life is being true to living by ideas that are beneficial to you, and testing those ideas for yourself, rather than taking sides in a school playground fight that does no credit to anybody; merely presents the media with a chance to smear and attack rather than evaluate. Again, please accept my apologies for this lenght of post, but at least you all know where I am coming from and perhaps any further thoughts on how to market these ideas we love should be taken to a separate thread. Best regards Will