Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Just now, Jules Troy said: DJIA is over 19k and climbing and he hasn't even taken office yet... Jules, How could that be? Trump said pussy. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I watch for agenda’s on TV. Black people are in every other commercial. Interracial couples are spotlighted. A left wing message is sent. Sometimes it is subtle or through the selection of stories as on the news. Yadda, yadda. So, I will put this observation here on the official Alt Right thread. Joke. I looked on the internet to see if there were any protests going on like at the play “Hamilton” but nothing was of note. On last nights “Designated Survivor” TV show I think a message was sent about the show’s anti Trump stance. How did they do it? Virtually everyone in crowd scenes, like in a courtroom, were Hispanic or Arabic looking. Weird. One platinum blond lady. One guy with gray hair. A couple black folks. Everyone else looked like they were from Mexico or Syria. In other episodes the lady playing the President’s wife usually has blondish brown hair. But not last night. In last night’s episode her hair was much darker. I am not sure Kiefer Sutherland’s hair was darker but it may have been. Phooey on them. The show keeps getting dumber and dumberer. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, Jules Troy said: DJIA is over 19k and climbing and he hasn't even taken office yet... The Nasdaq is down almost 2% since Nov 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 And Silicon Valley was practically in the tank for Hillary Clinton. It's a wonder 2% is all it is considering the number of awful hangovers there must be among the people there. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: And Silicon Valley was practically in the tank for Hillary Clinton. It's a wonder 2% is all it is considering the number of awful hangovers there must be among the people there. Non sequitur, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 10 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Here ya' go. Trump supporters are laughing their ass off about this, but you might enjoy it: Michael Live--from New York! It's Saturday Night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 hours ago, merjet said: Non sequitur, for sure. I don't see why. The following is my speculation, but since when did money not come with speculation? After the fanboy nerd masters of the universe fell all over themselves (and tanked their investors) blubbering and worshipping the golden goddess of Theranos (even though that is a privately held company), then slammed right into a concrete brick wall built by a billionaire who actually builds stuff to make his money, savvy tech investors are thinking: Maybe there is something to this reality thing that the fanboy nerd masters of the universe don't get. And maybe these fanboy techies are not the best fit to tackle politics when a real man like Donald Trump is around. You know, maybe all that government money going into half-baked startups is now going to evaporate with this new prez and maybe these techies full of piss and vinegar will not get their grubby little mitts on that government Utah surveillance complex after all. And maybe, just maybe, people need stuff, material stuff. And we all know fanboys don't do stuff. When they do, they run behind their dicks, not behind their customers. To cap it off, they blew it big-time with their anti-Trump efforts. Man does not live by behavioral science wedded to bits and bytes alone. If I had the profile of an investor who invests in Nasdaq (you know, the kind who also invested in Theranos and fanboys), I would think, Woah... Wait a minute... These fanboys are the idiots who have my money... Let me cool off a bit until I see what the hell is going on... I bet I'm not the only one... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 9 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I don't see why. .... I'm not surprised. You started with giving no plausible hypothesis about why the Nasdaq fell since Nov. 8, merely an innuendo that it must be the hangovers of people in Silicon Valley who supported Hillary Clinton. You follow that with a bunch of irrelevant verbosity and slurs that don't support your original point, and also show how little you know about what you are trying to talk about. The biggest holdings in the Nasdaq -- traded as symbol QQQ -- are Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz (link). Are they all half-baked startups feeding on government money that are going to evaporate after Trump is president the way you describe them? Clearly not. If you think they are, then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and short-sell them. Then you slur anybody who has invested in such companies as an idiot. Er, that would include Donald Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 21 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Merlin, And, ah me... the nay-sayers who live in the land of words only... I got really tickled by the following quote you posted from Cowan (I presume it was Cowan): ["It also could bring the kind of crony capitalist nightmare scenarios described by Ayn Rand in her novel “Atlas Shrugged,” a book many Republican legislators would be well advised to now read or reread."] The assumption that the globalism trade agreements currently in effect are not already crony capitalism, but will become crony capitalism by poking the cronies, is a howler. There's only one way a person could make a mistake that big. He hangs around cronies or is a crony himself. In other words, he doesn't live where the problems are that the cronies cause, thus he doesn't believe the problems exist. Another way to say what Cowan said was articulated much more gracefully in earlier times during a famine and attributed to Marie Antoinette when told the people had no bread to eat: "Then let them eat cake." Michael Oh my. That's a great example of your mocking and arbitrary assertions, including slurs. By the way, are there any characters in Atlas Shrugged whom Donald Trump is similar to in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, merjet said: By the way, are there any characters in Atlas Shrugged whom Donald Trump is similar to in your opinion? Mix of Hank Rearden and Francisco D'Anconia. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 59 minutes ago, merjet said: If you think they are, then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and short-sell them. Merlin, I don't do gambling, meaning I don't do the stock markets casino. When I invest in stocks, I'm in it for the long haul because I believe in a company's growth, not fluctuations due to buy/sell. I have an addictive personality and the last thing I need is another addiction. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, merjet said: The biggest holdings in the Nasdaq -- traded as symbol QQQ -- are Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz (link). Are they all half-baked startups feeding on government money that are going to evaporate after Trump is president? Who said anything about evaporate? They're not going to evaporate, but many of those bigger companies bet hard against Trump. Hell, even Bezos owns WaPo. And those biggies are exactly the ones salivating over the government's Utah surveillance complex. Now they're feeling it. But they'll rebound. It's Xmas and Americans like to buy stuff at Xmas. Stuff, not data. Fortunately for them, there is a lot of stuff hooked up to data. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 If you are a trader in assets that's a full time, consuming job. Eventually you're likely to blow up, especially with futures and stocks if not Forex. If you're an investor you can do it on the side and get a good night's sleep too boot. Warren Buffett's an investor. No trader, even Soros, has ever gotten within 10% of him. That said, he's created no wealth, just put it into his pocket for his benefit and the benefit of his investors. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates created wealth. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brant Gaede Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 13 hours ago, merjet said: I'm not surprised. You started with giving no plausible hypothesis about why the Nasdaq fell since Nov. 8, merely an innuendo that it must be the hangovers of people in Silicon Valley who supported Hillary Clinton. You follow that with a bunch of irrelevant verbosity and slurs that don't support your original point, and also show how little you know about what you are trying to talk about. The biggest holdings in the Nasdaq -- traded as symbol QQQ -- are Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz (link). Are they all half-baked startups feeding on government money that are going to evaporate after Trump is president the way you describe them? Clearly not. If you think they are, then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and short-sell them. Then you slur anybody who has invested in such companies as an idiot. Er, that would include Donald Trump. Money moved into small cap stocks after the election because Trump is all for repealing Dodd-Frank which will benefit small caps much more than big caps. The passage into law of Dodd-Frank caused a divergence between the S & P 500 which went up and the lesser publicly traded companies which tended down. Trump's election is causing a kind of reversion to the mean and these companies play catch up in the minds of investors. After January I expect a general grind down in equities if for no other reason it tends to happen in a President's first year in office and Trump is too ignorant of macro-economics to moderate any effect on the economy congruent with new policies. --Brant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Who said anything about evaporate? You did. "You know, maybe all that government money going into half-baked startups is now going to evaporate with this new prez" (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Brant Gaede said: Money moved into small cap stocks after the election because Trump is all for repealing Dodd-Frank which will benefit small caps much more than big caps. The passage into law of Dodd-Frank caused a divergence between the S & P 500 which went up and the lesser publicly traded companies which tended down. Trump's election is causing a kind of reversion to the mean and these companies play catch up in the minds of investors. I can agree with that and favor repealing Dodd-Frank. The Russell 2000 Index (^RUT on Yahoo Finance) is up 10.0% since Nov. 8. The S&P 500 (^GSPC on on Yahoo Finance) is up 2.4%. By the way, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI on Yahoo Finance), that Jules Troy referred to, is up 4.7%. All these price changes are from the Nov. 8 close to the Dec. 1 close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 1 hour ago, merjet said: You did. "You know, maybe all that government money going into half-baked startups is now going to evaporate with this new prez" Merlin, Now I'm confused. You said: 4 hours ago, merjet said: The biggest holdings in the Nasdaq -- traded as symbol QQQ -- are Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz (link). Are they all half-baked startups feeding on government money that are going to evaporate after Trump is president the way you describe them? Are they "all"? Did I say "all companies"? Do you seriously think that "Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz" are startups that receive government funding to start up and fail? And do you seriously think I think that? Jeez... I know your love of competitive gotcha is strong, but how about giving minimum--just minimum--attention to what I actually say before attributing an absurd meaning like that to it so you can do a gotcha? The government spends a lot of money on failed start-ups. Some of them are nothing but scams or vanity delusions and even reach Nasdaq. I believe this is one of the elements in Nasdaq's minor drop after Trump's win because that party is going to be over soon. That was my point and, frankly, that was clear. I don't see how anyone can read my words and think I was seriously arguing that Amazon magically morphed into a startup. I was saying the scammer fanboys won't get government money to burn and there are so many of them, Trump's win impacted trading. How difficult is that to understand? You're an intelligent man. It's inconceivable to me that you don't understand this. What you just did is a grade-school or kindergarten level thing to do. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 54 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Merlin, Now I'm confused. You said: Are they "all"? Did I say "all companies"? Do you seriously think that "Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz" are startups that receive government funding to start up and fail? ...... I know your love of competitive gotcha is strong, but how about giving minimum--just minimum--attention to what I actually say before attributing an absurd meaning [ ] so you can do a gotcha? Of course not. You are the one who made the guilt-by-association links and innuendos and side-tracked, not me. I was talking about the bulk of the Nasdaq by capitalization right now, not about government assisted failures that might have been Nasdaq stocks at one time or another. That's all I'm saying after your gratuitous insults and slurs and trying to cram words in my mouth. It's no wonder that several good people no longer participate here. ... Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: After the fanboy nerd masters of the universe fell all over themselves (and tanked their investors) blubbering and worshipping the golden goddess of Theranos [TL;DR] [/TL;DR] I assume "Fanboy Nerd Masters" is copyrighted to the Trump campaign, or pending. Blubbering is not a good look, and worshipping is cultish, and the golden goddess in this case is either the disgraced Theranos head or the whole blob term "Silicon Valley" itself. Perhaps a less cryptic slogan is next. Theranos is an awful case of hubris on top of deception, for me. The company sought investors and took in customers with a 'breakthrough' medical-testing solution. Their product could screen you for diseases faster and more accurately than other blood tests! (I grossly simplify; Theranos might have had useful, worthy products on smaller scales, as the information at Michael's link indicates: "During its first 10 years of operation, Theranos was in stealth mode, similar to other Silicon Valley startups, which received criticism from the media and scientific community.[...] Theranos is under criminal investigation by federal prosecutors and the Securities and Exchange Commission for allegedly misleading investors and government officials about its technology") It was mostly bullshit. The company had not validated its product. The bullshit eventually spilled over after long-held suspicions were investigated and published. It most made me think of the class 'alternative medicine.' Where evidence is small but claims are large. This is from a Vanity Fair 'exclusive.' Quote It was late morning on Friday, October 16, when Elizabeth Holmes realized that she had no other choice. She finally had to address her employees at Theranos, the blood-testing start-up that she had founded as a 19-year-old Stanford dropout, which was now valued at some $9 billion. Two days earlier, a damning report published in The Wall Street Journal had alleged that the company was, in effect, a sham—that its vaunted core technology was actually faulty and that Theranos administered almost all of its blood tests using competitors’ equipment. [...] One of the only journalists who seemed unimpressed by this narrative was John Carreyrou, a recalcitrant health-care reporter from The Wall Street Journal. Carreyrou came away from The New Yorker story surprised by Theranos’s secrecy—such behavior was to be expected at a tech company but not a medical operation. Moreover, he was also struck by Holmes’s limited ability to explain how it all worked. When The New Yorker reporter asked about Theranos’s technology, she responded, somewhat cryptically, “a chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel.” Or, Anyway, what was Michael's point, O Principle of Charity? Did blob term "fanboy nerd masters of the universe" slash all-that-is-bad-in-Silicon-Valley get snookered by the lady Chief Bullshit Officer at Theranos? Okay, for the sake of argument. A wish-fulfillment product, yuge profits on the horizon upon mass-production, venture capitalists can be snookered. Let's say everyone was fooled except those who weren't. Like Michael, who probably could have warned you off Theranos back a couple of years. I mean, except for folks like General Mattis, who recommended Theranos to the US military. Who remains on the Theranos Board of Directors. Such Fanboy! So Nerd. Quote (even though that is a privately held company), Yup. Agree. Long sentence, though. Quote then slammed right into a concrete brick wall built by a billionaire who actually builds stuff to make his money, savvy tech investors are thinking: Maybe there is something to this reality thing that the fanboy nerd masters of the universe don't get. And maybe these fanboy techies are not the best fit to tackle politics when a real man like Donald Trump is around. Here is the reality thing. When Donald Trump Inc builds a building, it doesn't fall down. Real man things keep standing up. Unlike New York outside the Trump zone, where buildings fall down every day. The concrete walls that are 'built' in Michael's metaphor are different. They exist as abstraction -- as policy, law, leadership. So, Michael's point is that "fanboy nerd masters of the universe fell all over themselves (and tanked their investors) blubbering and worshipping the golden goddess of Theranos" -- then banged into The New Era as apparent in headlines. Yes, there will be corporate tax cuts. Yes, there will be less/more HB-666 visas for the fanboy techies. No, there will be/not. Nobody knows. That the good parts of FanboyNerdTechieBlubberer Valley will survive Trump leadership is likely. The cutting edge of new technology start-ups and investment regimes (with/out tax-credits or other subventions) will find money and talent in the USA or they will offshore. In Michael's next Lesson to Pupils we are going to get a couple names to go with FanboyNerdTechieBlubbers. My crude estimate is that the list of bad people will include Bezos. Real Man: "I have respect for Jeff Bezos, but he bought The Washington Post to have political influence. Believe me, if I become president, oh, do they have problems. They're going to have such problems." Quote You know, maybe all that government money going into half-baked startups is now going to evaporate with this new prez I am pretty ignorant here about this evaporation. Is it to do with tax-abeyance, tax credits on sectoral investment, some kind of subvention scheme? I mean, what are the changes that will presumably leave a smaller pool of 'favour' from the Feds? Quote and maybe these techies full of piss and vinegar will not get their grubby little mitts on that government Utah surveillance complex after all. And maybe, just maybe, people need stuff, material stuff. And we all know fanboys don't do stuff. When they do, they run behind their dicks, not behind their customers. Further ignorance here, on the techies who are pissy, sour and dirty-handed. I mean I get that first part, there are some bad ones by Objectivish lights in the stew of 'SiliconValleyBlubber.' And I get that there is a new-ish, under construction Big Data facility built for use by some intelligence octopus ... but what is the connection between the two? "We all know fanboys don't do stuff." Now I get it. Fanboys don't do stuff, that is the essential difference between them and the rest of SiliconBlubber. The fanboys that run behind their dicks sound nasty. Is there a list? 16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: to cap it off, they blew it big-time with their anti-Trump efforts. Man does not live by behavioral science wedded to bits and bytes alone. They, the don't-do-stuff nerdy fanboy techie blubberers behind dicks. They were actively (with their mouths and forums) anti-Trump. They blew it. I think Michael means that useless 'new technology' folks felt threatened by Trump. I fill in the fears as likely to do with capital and human capital and government 'assist.' If subventions that assist new tech as a class get gutted, and if the talent-pool of foreign workers shrinks, then some fears will be realized. Behavioural science wedded to bits and bytes alone sounds awful. I mean, up there with Pizzagate in awfulness and awful implications. That I have zero idea what the concept instantiates is besides the point. Quote If I had the profile of an investor who invests in Nasdaq (you know, the kind who also invested in Theranos and fanboys), I would think, Woah... Wait a minute... These fanboys are the idiots who have my money... Let me cool off a bit until I see what the hell is going on... I bet I'm not the only one... You are not the only one. Fanboys are the idiots who have attracted venture capital to their own and allied undeserving beneficiaries (to a government-favoured industry group). They are fans in the sense of fanatics for 'tech.' They are to some degree peddling similar deception like Theranos. I am getting closer to understanding where Michael is coming from. 6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: I have an addictive personality and the last thing I need is another addiction. You are addicted to the good buzz from Trump? Don't harsh my trip, man. Look, a fanboy! 6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: 7 hours ago, merjet said: Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz (link). Are they all half-baked startups feeding on government money that are going to evaporate after Trump is president? Who said anything about evaporate? Yah. You said "maybe all that government money going into half-baked startups is now going to evaporate with this new prez." Taking evaporate out of context suggests Merlin misunderstood you. Which, since communication is a one-way street, means that is his problem, not yours. You meant half-baked start-ups. He meant titans like the listed. So there was no need to answer a question. Quote They're not going to evaporate, but many of those bigger companies bet hard against Trump. Hell, even Bezos owns WaPo. And those biggies are exactly the ones salivating over the government's Utah surveillance complex. They did not 'bet.' They bitched and moaned. Aside from the "Did you know my wife is from Bath?" side-board informing us of The Wife of Wapo's wifery, what does Merlin's infotech giant list have to do with drooling over a contract? I mean, salivating over the government's surveillance complex in Utah. Even without snatching from the jaws of Google, I think I can figure this out. The government (soup NSA/DIAetc) contracts out a big project that is part of the Security State. That is, a huge filtration pond, a full treatment facility, where all the incoming data hoses on You, Dear American and You, Suspect Foreigner are opened. It isn't or is finished and operating yet. And since one Trump policy directive is Go Big On Cyber the actual facility can be said to be a symbol of federal outlays for Big Data Processing Lots of snouts at that trough. This may need further investigation to fully expose the Salivating, if not the Blubbering. Quote Now they're feeling it. But they'll rebound. It's Xmas and Americans like to buy stuff at Xmas. Stuff, not data. Fortunately for them, there is a lot of stuff hooked up to data. I like stuff hooked up to data. Like, I live in a weird, wired household, with three TVs on harsh Telus 1000 channel universe, five laptops and two printers, hundreds of books, three bikes, and much lively discussion. I get a world of data incoming. Stuff, not too much. Sometimes I 'buy' stuff that isn't really stuff. Like I buy OL five bucks at a time. Is it stuff or is it data? Yah know? Just kidding. Books are stuff and electronic books are stuff and tables of figures refer to stuff and so spreadsheets and datatables come to be new tools for figuring the stuff-in-data out. In Utah. And of course, qubits. Who does not want America to dominate the world of quantum computing? Nerds? Fanboys? 3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Do you seriously think that "Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Alphabet (i.e. Google), Intel, Cisco, Comcast, and Kraft-Heinz" are startups that receive government funding to start up and fail? And do you seriously think I think that? Jeez... I know your love of competitive gotcha is strong, but how about giving minimum--just minimum--attention to what I actually say before attributing an absurd meaning like that to it so you can do a gotcha? Merlin's bottom must be so red. He so badly misunderstood your point that instead of answering his questions you had no choice but to turn on the OL Spank. 3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: The government spends a lot of money on failed start-ups. Some of them are nothing but scams or vanity delusions and even reach Nasdaq. Okay, then. Some of them. Progress. How we differentiate -- or more importantly, how market mechanisms (and oversight) differentiate between the two-bit lies of Theranos and the fail potential of the next guy. I mean, with whom is it that you have a bone to pick? It isn't Merlin or me, it is the out-there people. I wish you could write some clear, structured, well-referenced and coherent answers to Non-Gotcha questions. I think its theme is probably Trump's Plan. Between the hubris of Theranos and the teat-sucking of the SpaceX founder, and the ugly politics of Bezos, it would address your larger concerns and your expectations. In other words, behind the name-calling and label-gunning and the insult, there is an argument. What is your beef with the Blubberers and Worshippers, at fundament? Can you name a few names and sketch out the Trump advisements for these losers and their like? In other, other words, Beef. Name-calling is fun, but. Michael is a fan-boy. Nah na na na Nah na. Edited December 2, 2016 by william.scherk Added word-clouds for fun. It is a very long comment, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 hours ago, merjet said: It's no wonder that several good people no longer participate here. Merlin, Not everybody likes to be disagreed with in such an open manner. It pops an inner bubble or something... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Not everybody likes to be disagreed with in such an open manner. Ditto to you. One of many examples: "What you just did is a grade-school or kindergarten level thing to do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 36 minutes ago, william.scherk said: Michael is a fan-boy. Nah na na na Nah na. William, LOL... That's a lot of words to show you don't know what you're talking about. (Seriously, in this case you don't.) If you haven't understood that Silicon Valley was in the tank for Hillary and detested Trump and that Merlin also hates Trump, what can I possibly say? btw - Did I mention that Trump will be the one in power and these folks will not? Banter aside, I can't make an issue out of this, but by way of explanation, I am involved in a project right now where I've seen the inside of how the startup world works. If my lack of detail makes it look like I'm doing bluster without content, I'm fine with that. I should not have brought this up on a public forum, but here it is. So go on and call me a fanboy. Gotta take it. Work before play and all... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 3 hours ago, merjet said: ... after your gratuitous insults and slurs and trying to cram words in my mouth. Heh. I wish I could take that seriously, but I'm too busy following a Pied Piper... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 46 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Merlin also hates Trump On 3/23/2016 at 6:10 AM, merjet said: MSK said: " Robert, Do you suffer from the Trump hatred? There's a Trump hater bug going around and biting great people." Are there only Trump lovers and Trump haters? Robert, I invite you to my newly-formed club Trump Skeptics. My opinion hasn't changed in 8+ months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merjet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Here is a plausible hypothesis about the QQQ 2% price drop Nov. 8 - Dec. 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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