The Crayon Box Problem

[sjw]

I have no argument with the "supremacy of reason."

Why do you have so many insult gears in your transmissions? You end up going in reverse.

--Brant

But "authority of reason" causes you a problem. WTF? Are you a petty-minded quibbler? Never pegged you that way before.

Shayne

[Brant Gaede]

I have no argument with the "supremacy of reason."

Why do you have so many insult gears in your transmissions? You end up going in reverse.

--Brant

But "authority of reason" causes you a problem. WTF? Are you a petty-minded quibbler? Never pegged you that way before.

Shayne

"Authority" causes me a lot of problems. Reminds me of Leonard Peikoff, Phil, police officer control freaks and all the wrong people in our sundry governments.

--Brant

but you pegged me for a sophist

[sjw]

I have no argument with the "supremacy of reason."

Why do you have so many insult gears in your transmissions? You end up going in reverse.

--Brant

But "authority of reason" causes you a problem. WTF? Are you a petty-minded quibbler? Never pegged you that way before.

Shayne

"Authority" causes me a lot of problems. Reminds me of Leonard Peikoff, Phil, police officer control freaks and all the wrong people in our sundry governments.

--Brant

but you pegged me for a sophist

Well now I'm pegging you for acting like a silly and obnoxious twit. How about you knock it off.

First dictionary definition for "supremacy" I found: "the quality or state of being supreme; also : supreme authority or power".

My use of the term "authority" in the above is meant to be exactly equivalent to Rand's use of "supremacy." This much is obvious from the context. If my use of the word "authority" causes you psychological distress, feel free to substitute "supremacy", and to see a psychiatrist.

Shayne

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

One point should be kept in mind.

Supremacy of reason is within the context of the entire human mind, which contains a great deal of irrational and pre-reason components. Also, supremacy pertains to knowledge, not things like dreams, emotional balance (like mood swings), etc.

In other words, for knowledge and evaluating reality, reason has to be supreme. But supremacy does not mean ignoring the parts of the human brain that also operate. It means putting reason over them in order to best deal with them, not obliterating them from existence. And, like all organic things, they surge at times.

Nature to be commanded must be obeyed. That starts with correct identification--including correct identification of how the brain works.

Michael

[anthony]

One point should be kept in mind.

Supremacy of reason is within the context of the entire human mind, which contains a great deal of irrational and pre-reason components. Also, supremacy pertains to knowledge, not things like dreams, emotional balance (like mood swings), etc.

In other words, for knowledge and evaluating reality, reason has to be supreme. But supremacy does not mean ignoring the parts of the human brain that also operate. It means putting reason over them in order to best deal with them, not obliterating them from existence. And, like all organic things, they surge at times.

Nature to be commanded must be obeyed. That starts with correct identification--including correct identification of how the brain works.

Michael

A timely reminder and good overview, Michael.

It's easy to forget that those "irrational and pre-reason components" are reality, too. An inner reality that can be known and comprehended to a large degree.

As for 'supremacy' versus 'authority', I guess I am a little sensitive to the 'a' word, so I acknowledge Shayne's view that the two are interchangeable when applied to reason.

Tony

[sjw]

One point should be kept in mind.

Supremacy of reason is within the context of the entire human mind, which contains a great deal of irrational and pre-reason components. Also, supremacy pertains to knowledge, not things like dreams, emotional balance (like mood swings), etc.

In other words, for knowledge and evaluating reality, reason has to be supreme. But supremacy does not mean ignoring the parts of the human brain that also operate. It means putting reason over them in order to best deal with them, not obliterating them from existence. And, like all organic things, they surge at times.

Nature to be commanded must be obeyed. That starts with correct identification--including correct identification of how the brain works.

Michael

I see this as your way of expressing the fact that to obey reason is to reject the mind-body dichotomy -- another of Rand's great insights.

Shayne

[kluss]

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[william.scherk]

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