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There's a striking similarity between both Dagny & Roark, and Gail & Rearden

Remember when Roark said something about how no group has ever accomplished anything?

Remember when Roark said to Gail, "I guess it's inevitable you would see that"?

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8 minutes ago, atlashead said:

There's a striking similarity between both Dagny & Roark, and Gail & Rearden

Remember when Roark said something about how no group has ever accomplished anything?

Remember when Roark said to Gail, "I guess it's inevitable you would see that"?

Who is Gail?

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3 hours ago, atlashead said:

There's a striking similarity between both Dagny & Roark, and Gail & Rearden

Remember when Roark said something about how no group has ever accomplished anything?

Remember when Roark said to Gail, "I guess it's inevitable you would see that"?

atlashead,

Gail mentioned his secret art gallery before this line, which represents repressing what Roark is and what Gail could have (perhaps) been if he hadn't chosen second handing earlier in his life.  I thought that line was more about Roark recognizing how Dominique influenced Gail, how she brought out more Roark qualities in him.

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13 hours ago, atlashead said:

Gail Wynand

edit: I guess this is maybe fallacious because Wynand "thinks" he rules the mob, either that or trying to turn Roark over to the mob was simply vicious.

Oh right!   I took Gail to be a female name.,  It has been too long since I read F.H.  Thank you.

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7 hours ago, BaalChatzaf said:

Oh right!   I took Gail to be a female name.,  It has been too long since I read F.H.  Thank you.

That's to help make his masculine status inferior to Howard's. First he submitted to Howard then he submitted to the mob. That was the end of him. By getting rid of Gail Dominique was freed by Rand to go back to Roark.

--Brant

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On ‎1‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 0:47 AM, KorbenDallas said:

atlashead,

Gail mentioned his secret art gallery before this line, which represents repressing what Roark is and what Gail could have (perhaps) been if he hadn't chosen second handing earlier in his life.  I thought that line was more about Roark recognizing how Dominique influenced Gail, how she brought out more Roark qualities in him.

I thought that Gail & Toohey are both able to see truths (coming from two different sides) but unable to stand for them, ultimately.

(I mean no metaphysical bent in the "able to see")

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On 1/7/2017 at 0:08 AM, atlashead said:

 

Remember when Roark said something about how no group has ever accomplished anything?

 

And he would be wrong.  It took one physicist (actually a few working independently) to come up with the Higgs Field.

It took thousands of physicists working in an organized manner at CERN  to  find the Higgs Boson which is an effect of the Higgs Field.

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22 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said:

It took thousands of physicists working in an organized manner at CERN...

Amusing. Just what the world needed. $6 billion jobs-for-the-boys, total State Science Institute failure.

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Physicists produced some 500 papers breathlessly interpreting the meaning of the as-yet unconfirmed particle, The New York Times reports. Then ... poof! A few weeks ago, scientists had to admit that the particle didn't exist. That intriguing bump on the graph in Switzerland was most likely a statistical fluke. Imagine the profound disappointment among physicists around the world. A possible universe-altering, Noble-prizewinning event, the most important physics discovery in half a century, turned out to be a ghost in the machine, a phantom, the blip that wasn't. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-physics-large-hadron-failure-cern-edit-0903-md-20160901-story.html

 

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Physicists produced some 500 papers breathlessly interpreting the meaning of the as-yet unconfirmed particle, The New York Times reports. Then ... poof! A few weeks ago, scientists had to admit that the particle didn't exist. That intriguing bump on the graph in Switzerland was most likely a statistical fluke. Imagine the profound disappointment among physicists around the world. A possible universe-altering, Noble-prizewinning event, the most important physics discovery in half a century, turned out to be a ghost in the machine, a phantom, the blip that wasn't. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-physics-large-hadron-failure-cern-edit-0903-md-20160901-story.html .................................................................................................................................. What the outcome of the measurements made in 2012 showed was that the probability of the observed "bumps" not being the result of the Higgs Boson was the area of a normalized Gaussian variate lying more than 5 standard deviations from the mean. Approximately one inf 3.5 million chance of the aggregate observations ALL being false positives. The importance of finding the Higgs Boson was to show that the Standard Model of Fields and Particles in the energy ranges of 0 to 10 TeV is complete and correct. Which gives further confidences in all the other predictions made by the Standard Model. Standard Model physics is the basis of all our electronic and chemical technology. The first major component of the Standard Model is quantum electrodynamics which is the basis of all, every last bit of, our electronic technology. The transistor was invented by two physics guided by the then new of field of quantum electrodynamics back in the 1940s. The scientists that were responsible for the 1947 invention of the transistor were: John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley. Bardeen, with a Ph.D. in mathematics and physics from Princeton University, was a specialist in the electron conducting properties of semiconductors. Bardeen and Brattain were physicists, Shockley was an engineer. Bardeen is a double Nobel prize winner. He and Cooper found an theory to explain super conductivity and any technology that is based on "room temperature" super conductivity (super conductivity far from absolute zero Kelvin) which be derived from their work. Any new material and processes which can be made and used will follow from Standard Model physics. It is so far the super champion of scientific theories. It predictions are good to twelve decimal places. It is not exaggerating to say our modern technological civilization is the child of quantum physics. Without quantum field theory and the Standard Model we would be living back in the age of advanced Victorian pre-quantum physics. To put it more mildly we would be living in a technology that preceded the invention of the transistor, and invention that is as important to our civilization as the steam engine and even the wheel. That is what modern physics as delivered to the population. electronics, computers, and new artificial materials far stronger than steel. We might have gotten to the moon in a Jules Vern rocket but we could not have had GPS and high volume high speed communication without modern post quantum physics. Without that the last word in communication would have been short wave radio-telegraph. About 60 characters per second maximum.

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Always makes me smile to think of Schockley, the asshole that made it possible. ("Shockley was an engineer"? - nope, project leader, the boss)

Shockley was granted over ninety US patents. Some notable ones are:

  • US 2502488 Semiconductor Amplifier. Apr. 4, 1950; his first granted patent involving transistors.
  • US 2569347 Circuit element utilizing semiconductive material. Sept. 25, 1951; His earliest applied for (June 26, 1948) patent involving transistors.
  • US 2655609 Bistable Circuits. Oct. 13, 1953; Used in computers.
  • US 2787564 Forming Semiconductive Devices by Ionic Bombardment. Apr. 2, 1957; The diffusion process for implantation of impurities.
  • US 3031275 Process for Growing Single Crystals. Apr. 24, 1962; Improvements on process for production of basic materials.
  • US 3053635 Method of Growing Silicon Carbide Crystals. Sept. 11, 1962; Exploring other semiconductors.

Almost singlehandedly created Silicon Valley, a Hank Rearden that Galt should have "destroyed."

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2 hours ago, wolfdevoon said:

Always makes me smile to think of Schockley, the asshole that made it possible. ("Shockley was an engineer"? - nope, project leader, the boss)

Shockley was granted over ninety US patents. Some notable ones are:

  • US 2502488 Semiconductor Amplifier. Apr. 4, 1950; his first granted patent involving transistors.
  • US 2569347 Circuit element utilizing semiconductive material. Sept. 25, 1951; His earliest applied for (June 26, 1948) patent involving transistors.
  • US 2655609 Bistable Circuits. Oct. 13, 1953; Used in computers.
  • US 2787564 Forming Semiconductive Devices by Ionic Bombardment. Apr. 2, 1957; The diffusion process for implantation of impurities.
  • US 3031275 Process for Growing Single Crystals. Apr. 24, 1962; Improvements on process for production of basic materials.
  • US 3053635 Method of Growing Silicon Carbide Crystals. Sept. 11, 1962; Exploring other semiconductors.

Almost singlehandedly created Silicon Valley, a Hank Rearden that Galt should have "destroyed."

He was the engineer  of the team (also the leader) the other two (Bardeen and Brattain) were Ph D  physicists who did original research in quantum electrodynamics.  Shockley however good an engineer he was,  was a terrible awful human being.  He was a racist down to his toenails.  He also offended and drove away everyone he worked with.  Several of the Silicon Valley firms were founded by people who just had to get away from Shockley.  He did not supply the physical insight necessary  to figure out how to "dope"  silicon.  That was done by Bardeen and Brattain. 

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My father knew Shockley pre WWII because his daughter and my sister attended the same NYC pre-school. Somewhere I have a photo of the two girls in a canoe on Lake George with Shockley paddling. I also have a letter Shockley wrote to my father in the 1970s or early 80s.

My mother who knew the wives of these three Nobel prize winning men said that every wife--Shockley's wife?--said the other two guys deserved the Nobel prize much more than he did. Shockley was a publicity hog and tried to upstage them. My father said S. deserved the prize, not the other guys, that Bell Labs made them all take equal credit. I guess he got that from S. Like S. my father was a brainiac, but not in science and math, and was also obnoxious and very unpleasant. I think S. was into American nationalism, stay out of the war pre WWII (along with the architect Philip Johnson before he became an architect). I don't know if he was an anti-Semite. He likely was then, but for me that's a supposition and I have no interest in researching it. My father was.

As IQ was a real big thing then all the parents IQs were on record at that pre-school. My mother said Shockley's was in the low 130s. If so that was rich with all his emphasis on IQ later in life. But if you ever saw him on TV as I once did you'd have seen he did indeed have a super-duper brain. (Maybe he's on You Tube.)

Those were the days, but not my days.

--Brant

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