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> As the chair of the Tenure and Promotion Committee, I'm trying to make sure that professors in our department are being evaluated by appropriate standards [Robert Campbell]

Robert, in this and in the rest of your post, with your concern for your school, department, colleagues, profession, it sounds like you are someone who is very conscientious about his work.

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Another possible cause for the dearth of participants, women in particular, is the lack of bad boys. Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them. Women say they want providers, but studies have shown that during ovulation (i.e., when it really matters) they prefer the abusive macho types. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those sexy lone wolves. The closest you get are some anarchists, but they are not really Objectivists, galtgulch being a perfect example. His posts simply reek of testosterone, but his heresy is just a bit too offputting. What we really need are more people with orthodox cojones, like Kyrel "Andre" Zantanovitch. Studs like him will bring in the ladies, and the ladies will bring in more men. With an alpha man like him around, the rest of us beta males will have plenty of scraps for the picking.

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Another possible cause for the dearth of participants, women in particular, is the lack of bad boys. Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them. Women say they want providers, but studies have shown that during ovulation (i.e., when it really matters) they prefer the abusive macho types. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those sexy lone wolves. The closest you get are some anarchists, but they are not really Objectivists, galtgulch being a perfect example. His posts simply reek of testosterone, but his heresy is just a bit too offputting. What we really need are more people with orthodox cojones, like Kyrel "Andre" Zantanovitch. Studs like him will bring in the ladies, and the ladies will bring in more men. With an alpha man like him around, the rest of us beta males will have plenty of scraps for the picking.

Crap. I have yet to encounter a woman of grossly low self-esteem on OL. Or a man. This is cultural anthropological BS. I assume you're being humorous.

--Brant

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Another possible cause for the dearth of participants, women in particular, is the lack of bad boys. Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them. Women say they want providers, but studies have shown that during ovulation (i.e., when it really matters) they prefer the abusive macho types. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those sexy lone wolves. The closest you get are some anarchists, but they are not really Objectivists, galtgulch being a perfect example. His posts simply reek of testosterone, but his heresy is just a bit too offputting. What we really need are more people with orthodox cojones, like Kyrel "Andre" Zantanovitch. Studs like him will bring in the ladies, and the ladies will bring in more men. With an alpha man like him around, the rest of us beta males will have plenty of scraps for the picking.

Another possible cause of the dearth of participants, men in particular, is the lack of dumb women. Men like dumb women; they want to "educate" them. Men say they like bright women, but studies have shown that when and if they decide to be truthful, they prefer the dumb clinging vine type. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract intelligent and independent grown-up women (for example, Judith) not those simpering, "oh you big wonderful man!" baby doll sexpots. There used to be a couple of them on Solo, but they were not really Objectivists, not being intelligent enough to understand it without the help of a big wonderful man; they spent most of their time flirting, but this was too offputting to the beta males they didn't flirt with, who ultimately drove them off. But if we can attract a few of them here, that will bring in the big wonderful men; such men will bring in many more such women. With more of these women around, the beta males will finally have scraps for the picking. .

Barbara

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Sexpots? Let me think. Yes!!! Michael, get some sexpots in here, so Objectivism--and OL--can conquer the world! At last! The secret ingredient! GREAT SEX!!! Men, don't waste your money on Viagra. Come to OL! Porn! Why didn't we think of it before? Porn for freedom! Women! Get your hunks on OL! And don't forget to ovulate!

--Brant

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Another possible cause for the dearth of participants, women in particular, is the lack of bad boys. Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them. Women say they want providers, but studies have shown that during ovulation (i.e., when it really matters) they prefer the abusive macho types. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those sexy lone wolves. The closest you get are some anarchists, but they are not really Objectivists, galtgulch being a perfect example. His posts simply reek of testosterone, but his heresy is just a bit too offputting. What we really need are more people with orthodox cojones, like Kyrel "Andre" Zantanovitch. Studs like him will bring in the ladies, and the ladies will bring in more men. With an alpha man like him around, the rest of us beta males will have plenty of scraps for the picking.

Another possible cause of the dearth of participants, men in particular, is the lack of dumb women. Men like dumb women; they want to "educate" them. Men say they like bright women, but studies have shown that when and if they decide to be truthful, they prefer the dumb clinging vine type. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract intelligent and independent grown-up women (for example, Judith) not those simpering, "oh you big wonderful man!" baby doll sexpots. There used to be a couple of them on Solo, but they were not really Objectivists, not being intelligent enough to understand it without the help of a big wonderful man; they spent most of their time flirting, but this was too offputting to the beta males they didn't flirt with, who ultimately drove them off. But if we can attract a few of them here, that will bring in the big wonderful men; such men will bring in many more such women. With more of these women around, the beta males will finally have scraps for the picking. .

Barbara

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Excellent riposte, Barbara. Wow! It is women like you who represent the most supremely elegant aspects of the Objectivist world.

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-Ross Barlow.

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Until recently I have not visited OL (or any other Objectivist e-list) since around the time of the last June solstice. I took a vacation from all things Objectivist for a while, and I might elaborate on this more later on a different thread. But it is good to come back and see old friends engaged in earnest discussions, fruitful information sharing, endless quibbling and nitpicking, etc. I have always felt at home here.

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-Ross Barlow.

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Another possible cause of the dearth of participants, men in particular, is the lack of dumb women. Men like dumb women; they want to "educate" them. Men say they like bright women, but studies have shown that when and if they decide to be truthful, they prefer the dumb clinging vine type. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract intelligent and independent grown-up women (for example, Judith) not those simpering, "oh you big wonderful man!" baby doll sexpots. There used to be a couple of them on Solo, but they were not really Objectivists, not being intelligent enough to understand it without the help of a big wonderful man; they spent most of their time flirting, but this was too offputting to the beta males they didn't flirt with, who ultimately drove them off. But if we can attract a few of them here, that will bring in the big wonderful men; such men will bring in many more such women. With more of these women around, the beta males will finally have scraps for the picking. .

LOL! (Literally, my jaw hurts.)

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> Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them.........Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those sexy lone wolves. [Ted]

Hey!! How the f**$% did I get dragged into this? Minding my own well-adjusted business and all... :-)

Further, how -dare- you say that I am not a sexy lone wolf type?

HHHOOOOWWWW!!! Arf, arf.

...Bad boys, bad boys,

Whatcha gonna do

When they -come- for you???

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BOO! :huh:

Chris! I'm sorry I didn't get your PM! My email usually notifies me when I get PMs here, but apparently this time it didn't. Just lettin' ya know I haven't died quite yet. How are you folks?

Side note: I think that people can sometimes be repelled, leave, then come back later to see if things have changed.

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Hey, its good to see some of you back. Hugs to Kori, Robert and Ross. I know I've been pretty bad about not keeping up with the discussions. I do check in every day, but my time is limited and I tend to skim and seldom have much to add to the discussions. I'll admit that I dare not venture into art and music because I don't want to be attacked for my tastes. I'm a Beatlefreak... deal with it.

Sometimes, and this happens on any O'ist site, people are constantly put on the defensive for stating an opinion, and on and on it goes, splitting hairs, presenting evidence and such. I also really got sick of a couple of very disrespectful people who seemed to be on a campaign against Michael and OL. So I guess you would say that I've been kind of laying low and just doing my own thing...working, watching Beatles videos on youtube, tending to my websites, practicing my ukulele and popping in occasionally to take a look.

I'd actually like to see more humor, recipes, happy birthdays and other lifestyle stuff going on along with the intellectual stuff and setting the record straight about PARC. I think that would brighten up the post-election blues.

Kat

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Speaking of Thanksgiving, one thing I could absolutely live on is deep-fried turkey. I'm originally from Maine (love the lobstah), and my wife is from Louisiana. Always a fan of variety in food, I was blown away by this southern spin on turkey.

~ Shane

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Speaking of Thanksgiving, one thing I could absolutely live on is deep-fried turkey. I'm originally from Maine (love the lobstah), and my wife is from Louisiana. Always a fan of variety in food, I was blown away by this southern spin on turkey.

~ Shane

That is the diet that killed Elvis Presley.

Ba'al Chatzaf

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Speaking of Thanksgiving, one thing I could absolutely live on is deep-fried turkey. I'm originally from Maine (love the lobstah), and my wife is from Louisiana. Always a fan of variety in food, I was blown away by this southern spin on turkey.

~ Shane

Baal; With all due respect I don't think it was Elvis's diet that killed him but the drugs.

Shane; Do they have lobstah at Thanksgiving in Maine? It's an interesting idea.

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Speaking of Thanksgiving, one thing I could absolutely live on is deep-fried turkey. I'm originally from Maine (love the lobstah), and my wife is from Louisiana. Always a fan of variety in food, I was blown away by this southern spin on turkey.

~ Shane

That is the diet that killed Elvis Presley.

Deep-fryed turkey is lowering the bird into a vat of super-heated peanut oil on top of a propane burner. It's an excellent way of cooking if done right. I did it last year but won't this year. I spent an extra hundred bucks on the equipment and the oil. It's a way of keeping the bird juicy. Just don't eat the skin.

I think Elvis was killed by his peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

--Brant

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Speaking of Thanksgiving, one thing I could absolutely live on is deep-fried turkey. I'm originally from Maine (love the lobstah), and my wife is from Louisiana. Always a fan of variety in food, I was blown away by this southern spin on turkey.

~ Shane

Baal; With all due respect I don't think it was Elvis's diet that killed him but the drugs.

Shane; Do they have lobstah at Thanksgiving in Maine? It's an interesting idea.

Chris,

Not usually, but nothing would stop anyone from adding it. Lobster is readily available year round. But there are folks that do incorporate lobster or swap it out with the turker for a change.

Baal,

Primarily, drugs killed him. His figure was attributed to the fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

~ Shane

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Deep-fryed turkey is lowering the bird into a vat of super-heated peanut oil on top of a propane burner. It's an excellent way of cooking if done right. I did it last year but won't this year. I spent an extra hundred bucks on the equipment and the oil. It's a way of keeping the bird juicy. Just don't eat the skin.

I think Elvis was killed by his peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

--Brant

The peanut oil can get quite expensive. But MAN, the taste is out of this world! Recently, I had a deep-fried turducken.

~ Shane

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possible cause for the dearth of participants, women in particular, is

the lack of bad boys. Women like bad boys; they want to "fix" them.

Women say they want providers, but studies have shown that

during ovulation (i.e., when it really matters) they prefer the abusive

macho types. Now, unfortunately, Objectivist Fora preferentially

attract well-adjusted provider types, (for example, Phil) not those

sexy lone wolves. The closest you get are some anarchists, but they are

not really Objectivists, galtgulch being a perfect example. His posts

simply reek of testosterone, but his heresy is just a bit too

offputting. What we really need are more people with orthodox cojones,

like Kyrel "Andre" Zantanovitch. Studs like him will bring in the

ladies, and the ladies will bring in more men. With an alpha man like

him around, the rest of us beta males will have plenty of scraps for

the picking.

Crap. I have yet to encounter a woman of

grossly low self-esteem on OL. Or a man. This is cultural

anthropological BS. I assume you're being humorous.

--Brant

Well, yes. I should have thought that was obvious.

But I did come accross this study while browsing Fox News. Funny

how the obvious becomes news when someone decides to dress it up in

scientific garb.

A study, done by researchers from Harvard University and Ontario's

McMaster University, found women are attracted to deeper voiced

partners, which experts claim indicate dominance and good genes, the

Daily Mail reported.

Watching Seinfeld should be enough to earn you a PhD in sociology and cultural anthropology.

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Ted, in so far as there is validity to your theory that women prefer "bad boys," there are rather good reasons for it. And if you look at literature, the reasons are clear. So often, the villians are infinitely more interesting, colorful, and independent than the heroes. For instance, in A Tale of Two Cities -- a book I'm very fond of -- it's Sidney Carton, to my mind, who is the main attraction, not the colorless and conventionally-virtuous Charles Darnay. Or think of the vapid Marius versus the complex and driven Javert in Les Miserables -- or the lovelorn Phoebus versus Archdeacon Claude Frollo who renounces God for Esmerelda in The Hunchbackof Notre Dame -- or the maddening Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady versus the pining ,vacuous Freddy -- or (don't tell anyone I said this) the dashing Ragnar versus John Galt. And too often, unfortunately, life imitates art.

Barbara

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Well, truly, I wouldn't even have called it my theory since that post was meant entirely in jest. But I do find there is truth in it. I prefer "bad boys" and tomboys myself - much more atttracted to Jodie Foster than some big-haired passive type. I deny the dichotomy though. (Your post in response to my jest reminded me of Roark telling Wynand he'd "be glad to" design conventional architecture for him.) I think the brainy and responsible types can also be the bad boys in the right circumstances and right ways. As for Galt, his character violated Rand's dictum that one should show and not tell in fiction. Everything he did until Part III was told in exposition, not dramatized action. Francisco was my type. And Dominique. Dagny and Danneskjold came in close second.

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At the risk of sounding cliche...

Can't we all just get along? Isn't that one of the tenets of Objectivism, if applied correctly?

Infighting is nothing more than a distraction from the true intent of websites like this one. I've been here almost 1 year and have learned immensely from most folks here. I enjoy this site because it's like a fruit tree, where I can pick at my leisure. Somehow, some squirrels got up in it and starting casting nuts around...lol.

Michael, keep up the great work. I have no plans of leaving anytime soon.

~ Shane

Me neither!

galt

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... I am going to give a really valuable information package away for free...

I want to give a small update on this. As I was setting up everything, I had the delight to encounter a compatible partner in my Internet marketing stuff. (He is not from the Objectivist or libertarian world.)

We are organizing a hell of a lot of things that have nothing to do with the course I want to provide for Objectivists and libertarians, so this unexpected benefit will probably delay release of my course until soon after the holidays.

Still, I will see if I can get up a taste of what is coming before Xmas.

Michael

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