Fraud and Context in the 2020 USA Elections


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18 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Tell all that to Tennaple, then.  It was his own retraction (and good on him for having the integrity to do so). His stated goal is to only report as verified only what CAN be verified, at this point.

And as I quoted him, he said that they MAY actually be missing, but he believes the intel behind that to be flawed. It was an act of responsibility on his part.

TG,

Tennaple should never have apologized.

Now it looks like he caved and was punished for it.

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Making a correction is one thing.

But that tad bit of virtue signaling about it Tennaple did at the end of his correction video probably pissed off the wokes at Google. They don't like it when people in the human livestock corral virtue signal outside the Official Narrative. Not about something important.

Michael

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6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

TG,

Tennaple should never have apologized.

Now it looks like he caved and was punished for it.

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Making a correction is one thing.

But that tad bit of virtue signaling about it Tennaple did at the end of his correction video probably pissed off the wokes at Google. They don't like it when people in the human livestock corral virtue signal outside the Official Narrative. Not about something important.

Michael

Maybe, but Tennaple has had videos and channels struck before, so I don't think that is simply because he issued a retraction/correction. No matter WHAT he did or didn't do, the outcome would always be the whim of YouTube.

And what he "should or shouldn't have done" is academic; it's like saying what Russian citizens should or shouldn't have said to avoid being sent to Gulag. (Is this an exaggeration? I think not. American media has become American Pravda, trying to recreate the "airtight" seal of communism Rand warned about in WE THE LIVING.)

Tennapel was on borrowed time at YouTube, anyway. An outspoken anti LGBT Christian Trump supporter? They'd have found any reason...or no reason, same difference to YouTube.. GUILTY!

I'm actually not a big fan of his, personally (yes, I'm not a fan of his faith/proselytizing, sure, but my dislike is actually for other reasons besides his faith), so I don't want to appear like I'm "simping" for him. But at least he has the courage of his convictions. I'll give him that. He doesn't bow to cancel culture or to the censors. And I stand by his decision to retract a claim that felt was not justified, at least at this point.

(As for apologies, I know a lot of people on the right advise to "never apologize to the left", because apologies becomes weaponized against them, but I see this as more of an apology to his followers, and to his faith, to "not bear false witness". I have no problem with THAT aspect of his religious nature.)

But as to what he SHOULD do, outside of YouTube? His contemporaries, like Mike S. Miller, who's also had multiple strikes at YouTube for the same, know this, too...

 

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Anyway, while it could be an interesting topic in itself, I'm personally not going to belabor the argument about what Tenappel should or shouldn't have done. It's off-topic, and taking the messenger for the message; the real topic is "the case of the 200K missing ballots", not him.

(I was only sharing that information because I shared the previous video where he made the original claim. And even that video I didn't share as some sort of definitive statement, but more in the spirit of "for informational purposes only", as a conversation starter; I have no  interest defending or attacking Tennapel himself. So I thought it only fair to share the retraction video, as further information, not to say whether the retraction was warranted or not, but the FACT of the retraction.)

Moving on...

[not an apology 😉 )

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TG,

Your response puzzled me, so I reread what I wrote and I saw I had written a really really really inartful passage This is the culprit: "Now it looks like he caved and was punished for it.."

When I wrote that, it did not occur to me that it could be interpreted as me bashing him for caving. That was the last thing I was thinking about.

I meant that now it will be perceived as if he caved (as opposed to holding himself to high standard) and was punished for it. (btw - I do not approve of such "punishment.") By extension, I also meant his enemies will exploit his gesture that way..

Dayaamm!

I was bashing YouTube and trying to say that Tennaple cannot extend his own standards to woke assholes as if they play by the same standards. They do not. They play dirty. He cannot lower his guard by apology before people who will use the opportunity to waste him.

(That reminds me of an old Red Foxx skit where he gave is son a black check as a birthday present and his son bankrupted him. :) )

The rules for war are different than the rules for peace.

That's what I meant. 

Reread what I wrote through that lens and you will see a whole new meaning emerge that was not there before. One that has a lot more humor to it, humor that laughs at the woke folks, not at him.

So fuck me, anyway. Sometimes I express myself poorly, especially when I get tired or try to get too cute. (Apropos, I think that's what happened with Ellen recently.)

But that's part of being a one-man-band and trying to get enough fresh content out to keep interest going when things are slow, to keep as much as possible tied to Ayn Rand in some form or other, and to keep the MAGA flame burning.

Speaking of slow, I should probably slow down to let my text "cook" a bit and revise it before I post. I sometimes think about it. But what the hell. This is forum posting. People understand that inartful and unintended shit happens on forums or they don't. 

On the other hand, I am preparing a few things for publication and, for those,. I am as ruthless as all hell on myself re rewrites.

One of the characteristics I like about you is that you do not pounce immediately if you read something and it breaks the intellectual and/or personality patterns of what you have read before. Kneejerk is a bad habit here in O-Land: i.e., judge immediately, then try to identify what one judged (mostly to justify the judgment, not to understand). :) 

In short, it is true that I'm not a fan of Tennaple, but that's simply because I don't watch his videos much. The problem is time, not his content. In fact, I was liking that you were periodically posting his videos (just like Tony is periodically posts videos by another dude, James Lindsay, who looks interesting.)

But, despite it taking time the Tennaples and Lindsays (and others) to becomes everyday names around here, I am aware that they are on the side of the angels, which is where you and I are. :) 

I would never bash them for that.

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

TG,

Your response puzzled me, so I reread what I wrote and I saw I had written a really really really inartful passage This is the culprit: "Now it looks like he caved and was punished for it.."

When I wrote that, it did not occur to me that it could be interpreted as me bashing him for caving. That was the last thing I was thinking about.

I meant that now it will be perceived as if he caved (as opposed to holding himself to high standard) and was punished for it. (btw - I do not approve of such "punishment.") By extension, I also meant his enemies will exploit his gesture that way..

Dayaamm!

I was bashing YouTube and trying to say that Tennaple cannot extend his own standards to woke assholes as if they play by the same standards. They do not. They play dirty. He cannot lower his guard by apology before people who will use the opportunity to waste him.

(That reminds me of an old Red Foxx skit where he gave is son a black check as a birthday present and his son bankrupted him. :) )

The rules for war are different than the rules for peace.

That's what I meant. 

Reread what I wrote through that lens and you will see a whole new meaning emerge that was not there before. One that has a lot more humor to it, humor that laughs at the woke folks, not at him.

So fuck me, anyway. Sometimes I express myself poorly, especially when I get tired or try to get too cute. (Apropos, I think that's what happened with Ellen recently.)

But that's part of being a one-man-band and trying to get enough fresh content out to keep interest going when things are slow, to keep as much as possible tied to Ayn Rand in some form or other, and to keep the MAGA flame burning.

Speaking of slow, I should probably slow down to let my text "cook" a bit and revise it before I post. I sometimes think about it. But what the hell. This is forum posting. People understand that inartful and unintended shit happens on forums or they don't. 

On the other hand, I am preparing a few things for publication and, for those,. I am as ruthless as all hell on myself re rewrites.

One of the characteristics I like about you is that you do not pounce immediately if you read something and it breaks the intellectual and/or personality patterns of what you have read before. Kneejerk is a bad habit here in O-Land: i.e., judge immediately, then try to identify what one judged (mostly to justify the judgment, not to understand). :) 

In short, it is true that I'm not a fan of Tennaple, but that's simply because I don't watch his videos much. The problem is time, not his content. In fact, I was liking that you were periodically posting his videos (just like Tony is periodically posts videos by another dude, James Lindsay, who looks interesting.)

But, despite it taking time the Tennaples and Lindsays (and others) to becomes everyday names around here, I am aware that they are on the side of the angels, which is where you and I are. :) 

I would never bash them for that.

Michael

It's all good. Just wanted to clarify my  own intent, is all.

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On 5/29/2021 at 11:17 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
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Arizona’s Senate is considering another audit of Maricopa County’s 2020 Election results.  This will supplement and confirm the results from the current audit going on in the Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. 

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I mean, if mission creep kicked in when the bad guys were cheating in the 2020 elections, it's only fair to let mission creep kick in while auditing the results of the different forms of fraud that were committed.

Another Arizona "audit"/analysis is the subject of a special program by the ABC affiliate channel 15 ...

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A new, independent analysis of Maricopa County voter data indicates Republican-leaning voters in wealthier areas were more likely to reject Donald Trump in the 2020 election, contributing to the former president’s loss in Arizona.

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What did an independent audit team find when looking at detailed Arizona voting data? See their data-backed answers to claims about bamboo-fiber ballots, illegal voting, and error rates in a series of exclusive reports, which begin tonight on ABC15 News at 6.

 

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The mission has landed -- in Montana. This may or may not be true to the book.

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A taco truck on every corner, and a "forensic" mystery in every pot.

The weakest link in the chain of custody? 

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On 6/17/2021 at 6:42 PM, william.scherk said:

The mission has landed -- in Montana. This may or may not be true to the book.

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A taco truck on every corner, and a "forensic" mystery in every pot.

The weakest link in the chain of custody? 

William,

Don Winslow is a thriller writer. He wrote Satori, the prequel to Trevanian (Rodney Whitaker)'s Shibumi.

The protagonist is an snooty elitist James Bond figure with quirks. This form of character follows Whitaker's idea of wedding the "superior man" with commercial fiction like spy thrillers. As I read several Trevanian books when I was younger and liked them, I followed Winslow on Twitter. 

Man, does he hate Trump. This dude has a serious case of TDS. What a disappointment.

Several years ago I tried to read and get into The Power of the Dog (one of the novels Winslow is most known for). I tried several times, but I couldn't resonate with his characters. He has been on my list of authors to force myself to read enough to get into since he is obviously an important  thriller writer, but now that I've discovered his TDS last year, I no longer feel burdened by that task.

 :)

I have not yet read Satori, so I might force myself through it at one point.

Also, I reread Shibumi last year. Although the book is brilliantly written, I got sick of the USA bashing and the constant looking down the nose on others by his protagonist, Nicholai Hel.

I might write about Trevanian at some point because he is great for illustrating creative writing techniques that resonate with the public. He wrote in several genres, including one lovelorn Romance novel, and made bestsellers with all of them. I think he understood basic universal appeals, despite his snootiness.

I wish I could write something about Winslow as an author, but I have yet to complete reading one of his books. As a Trump critic, he's pretty boneheaded. I don't remember if he ever let go of the idea that Trump was a Putin puppet and all the other debunked anti-Trump crap out there.

Michael

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Two updates on audits.

1. It looks like the Arizona report will come in the middle of August. I guess they found and are finding lots of problems with the ballots. :) 

International Auditor: Maricopa County Audit Report Not Expected for 8 Weeks – A Potential Sign There Are Numerous Issues to Inventory and Report

 

2. I got this from Steve Bannon at the War Room. In Georgia, dork Raffensperger had hired an omnibudsman-like person (Carter Jones, generally called a "contractor") to report on the election as it went along. This was obviously for show and not meant to be taken seriously. But the Secretary of State published the report on its site, granted in a hard to find place, and there it has stayed until recently.

Here are the detailed notes (hosted on the site of Just The News): State Election Board Report – November 13, 2020 - Unabridged Notes Detailing Everything Witnessed Nov 2-Nov 7, 2020.

And here is an article by John Solomon at Just The News that explains the story.

Georgia investigator's notes reveal 'massive' election integrity problems in Atlanta

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In a nationally televised interview in January, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rattled off an impressive list of measures his state used to ensure the November election count was accurate. "We had safe, secure, honest elections," he declared to "60 Minutes."

That rosy assessment, however, masked an ugly truth inside his agency's own files: A contractor handpicked to monitor election counting in Fulton County wrote a 29-page memo back in November outlining the "massive" election integrity failures and mismanagement that he witnessed in the Atlanta-area's election centers.

The bombshell report, constructed like a minute-by-minute diary, cited a litany of high-risk problems such as the double-counting of votes, insecure storage of ballots, possible violations of voter privacy, the mysterious removal of election materials at a vote collection warehouse, and the suspicious movement of "too many" ballots on Election Day.

I think most people are no longer following the details of this stuff. I know I am not (Not for lack of interest, but because we are in the boring part of a war where work is being done rather than fighting.)

If you have noticed some panic and overemphasized denials in the mainstream press about Georgia in the 2020 election, along with wildly inconsistent positions by Raffensperger, this report is the reason.

Carter Jones is not a thrid-party auditor or someone looking into the election after the fact. He's a dude hired by Raffensperger to witness the election as it happened and detail the events and judgments in real time. There is no way the Georgia executive branch can bash this one since they themselves hired it and published it ever since last November.

btw - Bannon talks about this more in the context of a Revolver news report than one by Jon Solomon. But the Revolver report is tied in with the emerging proof that a larger number of federal agents were "infiltrated" in the crowd at the Jan 6 capitol event and they were egging the people on to enter the capitol. And that's a different story, one worth telling in its own right.

There's a lot more happening right now and a lot more coming in the near future, but these two items (three actually) stand out. This is serious progress in the right direction.

The good news is that the establishment fake news media is melting down about all of this.

Michael

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7 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

But the Revolver report is tied in with the emerging proof that a larger number of federal agents were "infiltrated" in the crowd at the Jan 6 capitol event and they were egging the people on to enter the capitol. And that's a different story, one worth telling in its own right.

The Revolver article:

Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions of Federal Foreknowledge

 

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I was just thinking, this morning, about when I shared whem Trump said there would be a "peaceful transition", but noted that he never said to Biden, or even that he "conceded." I was mainly thinking how that was probably "wishful thinking" to note that, then. 

Now, this afternoon, THIS comes out:
 

Make of it what you will. Me? I haven't a goddamn clue, at this point.
"Just a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed bullshit..."

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37 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

Make of it what you will. Me? I haven't a goddamn clue, at this point.

TG,

Try popcorn, sitting back and enjoying the show.

:) 

I'm keeping up with some of the patriot side and nobody is afflicted. They are all excited as the storm is slowly arriving. Nobody is predicting a date, but they all talk like it's a done deal. And they all say the Deep State will put up a fight, but they fucked up too much to win it.

:) 

And it looks like there is a core military contingent that is involved, but I can't say who or what with any certainty.

Michael

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18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Try popcorn, sitting back and enjoying the show.

Might as well. Nothing else I can do about it all, at this point!
(But let's keep the "jump cuts" to a minimum, shall we? And their better be a good ending, though...none of that "subverted expectations" stuff that goes on in movies, now...and for pete's sake, none of those M. Night Shamalamadingdong twists!)

("And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddlin' kids...")

 

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1 hour ago, ThatGuy said:

Make of it what you will.

The interview has just been published on YouTube. The embedded video link should take viewers/listeners to the start of the whole fifteen minute exchange:

 

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2 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Might as well. Nothing else I can do about it all, at this point!
(But let's keep the "jump cuts" to a minimum, shall we? And their better be a good ending, though...none of that "subverted expectations" stuff that goes on in movies, now...and for pete's sake, none of those M. Night Shamalamadingdong twists!)

("And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddlin' kids...")

 

Haha the only twist ending I liked..or remotely liked in any of his movies was 6th sense.

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In re Carter Jones ...

On 6/19/2021 at 7:03 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

And here is an article by John Solomon at Just The News that explains the story.

Within that artilce is a link to a June 16 AP story quoting Jones. The Solomon article also hedges its clickbait headline in a couple of places:

The public emergence of the Jones report Thursday doesn't confirm enough suspect votes to overturn Georgia's election results, or prove a plot to commit widespread ballot fraud. [...]

Jones did not respond to repeated requests for comment from Just the News, though shortly after being contacted yesterday he spoke to the Associated Press about his findings, stating that in spite of all the issues he observed he did not witness "any dishonesty, fraud or intentional malfeasance" among election workers.

On 6/19/2021 at 7:03 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Carter Jones is not a thrid-party auditor or someone looking into the election after the fact. He's a dude hired by Raffensperger to witness the election as it happened and detail the events and judgments in real time.

The man said a few things:

Jones, who was appointed to ensure the county’s compliance with a consent agreement and has previous experience working on elections in other parts of the world, said he spent nearly 270 hours observing the county’s election processes and saw no evidence of “any dishonesty, fraud or intentional malfeasance.” [...]

Jones described several unpleasant interactions with party poll watchers, including one who called him a traitor and others who complained about their level of access.

He also mentioned rumors, including persistent talk about “suitcases filled with ballots” that stemmed from a widely circulated video from State Farm Arena, where ballots were being tallied. Those are standard ballot bins used all over the state, he said: “So they’re not mysteries, they’re not suitcases, they’re ballots.”

Of that and other allegations he says were easily debunked, Jones said: “At a certain point, it’s people willing to believe the worst in other people to justify a narrative that they have themselves.”

Another story based on Jones's work:

Reports detail tense moments with Georgia election monitors

 

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Not familiar with Duane Cates, but this is making a stir in some circles, re: a Chinese defector and the implications...
 

Thread: THE D.I.A. **DONG-ED** THE CCP!!
https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2021/06/17/breaking-chinese-defector-confirmed-as-top-counterintelligence-official-n398374

"This story from RED STATE broke on June 17th & promptly BROKE the internet.
I have never read a singular story with more THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS dropping in it than this one.

"If (& it's a BIG IF!) even ONE of these Nukes turns out to be vetted & verified it is a Game-Changer for US/China relations.Really what's just inferred by the existence & actions of this Defector are also incredible."


https://social.quodverum.com/@DuaneCates/106448765685037906

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Fed-sanctioned vote cheating shall not advance. At least not today.

BREAKING: Senate Republicans Block Democrats’ ‘Voting Rights’ Bill – Kamala Harris Vows to Keep Fighting

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The US Senate on Tuesday blocked the “For the People Act” in a 50-50 vote – every Republican voted “no.”

The vote on the procedural motion to advance the bill needed 60 votes.

The “For the People Act” would federalize elections, make ballot harvesting legal and force states to let violent felons vote before completing their sentence.

“The motion is not agreed to,” Harris said vowing to fight on.

I want to congratulate the Republican Senators, but they were simply doing the obvious.

Still, it's nice to see...

Michael

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Statement from the Desk of Donald J. Trump on the traitors in his midst (aka Bill Barr: "afraid, weak, and frankly, now that I see what he is saying, pathetic"):

Statement From Donald J Trump 45th President of the United States of America

Jonathan Karl’s story on Slow Moving Bill Barr is made-up beyond any level imaginable. It is, in other words, Fake News! I lost confidence in Bill Barr long before the 2020 Presidential Election Scam. It was when he dismissed and didn’t act on the very powerful Horowitz Report, and instead gave everything over to John Durham, who has seemingly disappeared from the planet. Can you even believe a report coming out during the Biden Administration? We caught them but unfortunately didn’t have an Attorney General who was capable of acting and wouldn’t go against his friends in Washington, D.C. Barr was a “swamp creature” who was devastated when the Radical Left wanted to impeach him. He, and other RINOs (you see it all the time!), always fold. If he becomes “less” for President Trump, maybe they will leave him alone. It takes a very strong and special person to go against the “mob”. Bill Barr was not that person. Despite evidence of tremendous Election Fraud, he just didn’t want to go there. He was afraid, weak, and frankly, now that I see what he is saying, pathetic. The facts are rapidly coming out in States and Courts about the 2020 Presidential Election Scam, and let’s see if Bill Barr, a man who was unable to handle the pressure, was correct? The answer will be a resounding, NO!

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