The 2020 Presidential Election Tournament

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

"Csikszentmihalyi"...guess I should go look that up...

TG,

Now you understand this a bit. Positive psychology is a wonderful offshoot that has only appeared within the last few decades.

Quoting from the Wikipedia article you mentioned.

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... state of flow—a state of concentration or complete absorption with the activity at hand and the situation. It is a state in which people are so involved in an activity that nothing else seems to matter.

Now think about this.

You never, ever, ever want a lawyer of Rudy's talent in a state of flow against you.

That's not a good place to be.

You do not want Rudy Giuliani in communion with his inner predator--and totally zen about it--when you are the prey. That is what I saw in the press conference today.

Here's a scary thought. That particular predator gobbled up five top mafia families in one whack.

 

Also, don't forget, lawsuits haven't even started. Rudy is only going to start filing Monday.

Yet behold how the fools sing of victory.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here is a man of total sanity when the world is going crazy.

Mexican President: Imprudent to Congratulate Biden Before Election’s Legal Issues Resolved
 

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Mexico’s President said it is too early to congratulate any of the U.S. presidential candidates since the elections still have several pending legal issues. In an effort to be respectful to the process, he will wait until all legal matters are resolved before congratulating the winner.

. . .

“In regards to the elections in the United States, we will wait for the legal issues to be resolved,” Lopez Obrador said. “We don’t want to be imprudent, we don’t want to act lightly and we want to be respectful … of foreign law.”

According to AMLO, during his 2006 presidential bid, the establishment rushed to declare former President Felipe Calderon the winner and the president of Spain at the time was quick to congratulate him before votes had been counted.

“That was an imprudence and we do not want to do that.”

. . .

AMLO claimed to have a good relationship with both candidates...

. . .

AMLO also said that he has had a good working relationship with current President Donald J. Trump.

“President Trump has been very respectful with us and we have achieved very good accords,” he said. “We thank him for not having been a meddler and he has respected us … we have no quarrels with any of them.”

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

For what it's worth, the following could be a crack in the dam or could be a simple CYA move--or, the most unlikely option, it is what it says it is and nothing more:

Let's see what happens

EDIT: I forgot to add, it could be a plumbing issue.  

Michael

[Ellen Stuttle]

5 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

At 27:54, Rudy said:

Michael quotes Rudy saying:

"There's also a very strange thing that happened which will be part of our case. At some point during the process when the lead of President Trump reduced from something like 50,000 to 30,000, at the time it was at 50,000, 94% of the vote had been cast. And when we got to 30,000, there was only 90% of the vote cast. 

AHA!  As I suspected - here:

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I think PA has been playing games with percentage of votes tallied.

Simple example to illustrate:

On Tuesday, they say that 96% of the votes have been counted, and the total number of votes reported as tallied already ads up to 96, which would mean that the total is 100, with 4 votes remaining to be counted.

Then, on Wednesday, they say that 98% of the votes have been counted, and the total number of votes reported as tallied already adds up to 100*, which would mean that the total is 102, with 2 votes which have materialized from somewhere remaining to be counted.

*99.96 - rounding to illustrate

I hadn’t written down the percentage of the votes which was reported as having been tallied when Trump's strong lead in Pennsylvania started to dwindle, but I thought it had been higher than it was subsequently said to have been.  Inflating the number of votes by adding ballots - possibly all of them for Biden - would diminish the percentage of votes counted.  And this game could keep being played until Biden had the desired strong lead.

Ellen

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This is exactly how I feel.

I am sad I have not read one book by Kurt. I will remedy that soon.

But be advised when you are looking at the shit-show.

You are not alone.

We will win.

That's what we did the first time around and each time ever since.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I'm just putting this up because I like the title.

Greg Kelly: "Everything You're Seeing Tonight is an Illusion - The "President-Elect" Is an Illusion"

The fake news media has sure felt like an illusion for the longest time.

One hoax after another and everyone grandstanding.

And me thinking: WTF?

This reminds me of Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. I'm going from memory so this may not be exact.

I think even younger people today know what a cat's cradle is. In case anyone doesn't, it's a children's pastime where twine is laced through fingers until it resembles a cradle form.

One character who was making cat's cradles all through the book asks another character in the end if he knows what's wrong with a cat's cradle. The reply was no, of course. Then the original character said:

"No damn cat. No damn cradle."

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Judge Jeannine says keep fighting.

And look at that smile. Does she look worried?

Nope...

 

Michael

[Dglgmut]

6 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

Michael quotes Rudy saying:

"There's also a very strange thing that happened which will be part of our case. At some point during the process when the lead of President Trump reduced from something like 50,000 to 30,000, at the time it was at 50,000, 94% of the vote had been cast. And when we got to 30,000, there was only 90% of the vote cast. 

AHA!  As I suspected - here:

I hadn’t written down the percentage of the votes which was reported as having been tallied when Trump's strong lead in Pennsylvania started to dwindle, but I thought it had been higher than it was subsequently said to have been.  Inflating the number of votes by adding ballots - possibly all of them for Biden - would diminish the percentage of votes counted.  And this game could keep being played until Biden had the desired strong lead.

Ellen

I think they only planned to have as many fraudulent votes counted/counting mistakes as necessary. As Trump began to have a scary lead in key states, the shenanigans would proceed. But with Trump getting, what, 8 million more votes than 2016, that's a lot of fake votes/clerical errors. On that scale I can't imagine the quality of cheating is up to par and I feel like it will be hard to keep covered up.

[Dglgmut]

Here's an excerpt from Curtis Yarvin's latest post, on the election:

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Ultimately, I am glad Trump lost, because Trump was more than just a liar—he was a lie. As soon as he accepted the fraud that he was actually in charge of the government, he became complicit in a fraud against his own supporters. They could never understand why he didn’t “do something” about this, that, or the other thing. 

He could have told them why; he could have even worked to change that. He was given the choice between looking and feeling important, and realizing and revealing that he wasn't important. He chose as he did. Given that he did, his defeat at the hands of the ballot wizards of the Midwest may have been legal injustice—but it was divine justice. 

Yet, like many a flawed human instrument of the divine, what he accomplished was more than he himself conceived. He did nothing to “drain the swamp.” In fact he filled it. And left it flooded—which made it (a) more visible, and (b) poised to dry up horribly.

Accelerationists who voted for China Joe will be disappointed. Nothing will speed up. All the gas in the regime’s tank is coming from Trump. As soon as Trump is out, the panzer death sportscar custom-built to guzzle his pure octane will sputter to a crawl. 

Once as the Trump administration is over, no one has anything to fear or hate. No threat could ever be as exciting as the racist rapist in the White House. No Malibu hausfrau will ever again feel like she is in the French Resistance. After Prohibition, breweries could still sell nonalcoholic beer. This is journalism after Trump.

Why was I pro-Biden? Because I longed to see my enemies cast out into the cold, uncaring wind of poverty and despair. Why were you pro-Trump? Because you loved seeing your enemies grow huge and fat and hard? I like to win. I hate to get owned. How about you, my based friend?

By March or April, America's ruling class will feel like Hunter Biden on a Tuesday morning. Hunter reflects. He knows he left his pipe somewhere. He's not sure where. What he knows is that this world, which as recently as mimosa brunch on Sunday was still burning with the rainbow fire of a hundred suns exploding in H-bomb supernova pornstar orgasms while galaxies collide, is an ugly, boring place. A sterile promontory. A foul and pestilent congregation of vapors… also, something sticky is stuck to his ass. He'll get to it in a minute... oh, man...

Obviously he does not see Trump getting a second term. He is pro-Trump, in a sense, despite the tone of this passage. His problem is with the modern Right in general and their unwillingness to take power from the Left. His advice to the President would be to declassify everything that would not harm national security before his term is up, and bring all the troops home so Biden would have to initiate all foreign intervention himself. Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

One positive thing that will come from Biden being officially elected is the title of The Underdogs will be undisputed. This will lower political energy of the Left, and make the Right take their enemies more seriously.

[tmj]

I'm holding out for Dec 14th , but in my most melancholy moments, I fear the draining revealed the most recently sunk, the most vulnerable to quickly duck beneath the surface. The vile muck is so deep and entrenched few have the fortitude to consciously wade in and resolve to stay above the level. Those with less fortitude than 45 don't stand a chance.

If anyone can pull out of this third act tailspin it is DJT, I truly believe that and I know a majority of our countrymen have the same faith. Trump can handle any Pelosi, Shumer, Comey, Schiff et al , they're nothing of his stature , they're tools. Given enough time he can drain the Swamp, but I fear the Swamp is just a tool too. The machine , the monster , the invisible Leviathan is seemingly all encompassing. The slow rot is still festering.

 

and then I recall Nov 2016 and my mood improves, thank god the advance of the good isn't dependent on my moods, eff the swamp, eff the leviathan , eff em all wwg1wga! 

[william.scherk]

17 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

And Twaddle didn't even think to figure out a way to downplay President Trump's announcement. 

The following is the video of that press conference, which was with Rudy, not President Trump. 

Why did the Giuliani press conference happen in the back lot of a landscaping company? 

A full YouTube video of the event, from the UK Independent channel (more full videos available on the platform):

For a "view from the opponent's camp,"  DemocracyDocket.com is your one-stop shop for details on court actions underway.

[Peter]

TMJ wrote, “. . . Given enough time he can drain the Swamp, but I fear the Swamp is just a tool too. The machine, the monster, the invisible Leviathan is seemingly all encompassing. The slow rot is still festering. end quote

Well said! If a Biden Presidency comes to be  . . .  how much respect should objectivists, libertarians, conservatives and Republicans, show Biden and Harris? Perhaps the level of respect should equal how much respect the left showed to President Trump and The Office of the Presidency from day one.

But are we up to their level? Can American patriots duplicate the fake Russia conspiracy and scandal, the rumble over the firing of FBI director James Comey, lies about public service and private gain, Trump’s use of Twitter, and the charge he was going to exploit the pandemic?   Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.  Peter

Notes.

CANFIELD — If Democrat Joe Biden wins the presidency, the “radical left” will take over the country, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said at a Mahoning County Republican Party event. “If Joe Biden is elected president, he won’t be calling the shots,” Huckabee told a crowd of about 300 on Tuesday at the fundraiser at Waypoint 4180 in Canfield. He added, “It will be people like Kamala Harris (Biden’s vice presidential running mate), who’s the No. 1 liberal in the Senate. It will be people like (U.S. Sen.) Bernie Sanders, who’s an unapologetic socialist. It will be people like ‘The Squad,” AOC (U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez), the 30-year-old wonder.” Huckabee, who unsuccessfully ran for president in 2008 and 2016, spent time mocking Biden for being confused and lost. “If he wasn’t so completely disconnected from his own policies, I would feel sorry for him,” Huckabee said. “But I don’t for this reason: It is our country that’s on the line.”

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

42 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Why did the Giuliani press conference happen in the back lot of a landscaping company? 

William,

He's worried about violence. The word is (hat tip to Styx):

"DROMPF IS INCITING VIOLENCE BY REFUSING TO CONCEDE!"

So it was probably Rudy quaking in his boots.

 

Off the top of my head, though, wouldn't that be a good place to hide snipers and other security stuff? It's a place the bad guys would not have thought of to scope out for mischief. And I just don't see BLM and Antifa organizing a surprise riot there.

Aww...but that's silly. No one in Philadelphia would want to assassinate Rudy and some witnesses, would they?

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

From the Washington Examiner:

Rudy Giuliani: Trump campaign has enough evidence to change Pennsylvania election results

Based on the evidence alone that Rudy laid out to Maria Bartiromo, it's going to be hard for any court to ignore it and have a chance of not being overturned. 

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President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani said he has evidence that may change the results of the presidential electoral map.

In a Sunday interview with Fox News host Maria Bartiromo, Giuliani said the lawsuits being filed by the Trump campaign might reveal that up to 900,000 invalid ballots were cast in the state of Pennsylvania, a key election swing state several news outlets projected presumptive President-elect Joe Biden would win. "Do you believe that you have enough to actually change the fate of the election?" Bartiromo asked.

"Well, I think we have enough to change Pennsylvania. The Pennsylvania election was a disaster," Giuliani said. "We have people that observed people being pushed out of the polling place. We have people who were suggested to vote the other way and shown how to do it. I'm giving you the big picture."

Giuliani described details of its investigation in Pennsylvania, which may translate to new lawsuits this week, as early as Monday. He alleged Republican observers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, were "kept out of the room or kept away from the room" for 24-hours where mail-in ballots were counted, adding that 135,000 ballots were counted during that time period.

"Even though we went to court, and we were allowed to move 6 feet closer, the Democrat-machine people moved the counting place six feet further away. This is documented on videotape. There are upwards of 50 witnesses," Giuliani said, which would be the subject of a Monday civil rights lawsuit on Monday.

Giuliani said the Trump team was also looking into whether ballots were cast in the name of people who are already dead and if ballots were "back-dated."

"We have evidence now, from not only the Post Office but from others, that there was back-dating. I can only tell you right now that that amounts to about 2,000 or 3,000 votes," Giuliani said.

Here's the video:

Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo (clip)

A few important points.

1. Even though in the quotes in the article, only a few numbers were quoted, Rudy mentioned on camera large numbers, enough to put Pennsylvania for a Trump win. He said the numbers for less for Michigan, but enough to put the put that state for a Trump win. And there are others.

2. In Pennsylvania alone, Rudy said there are 450,000 ballots where there is absolute proof that Republican poll watchers were not allowed to observe a single one of them. This sounds like the same complaint he's been making that the press is ignoring. That is, until he described the process for validating the mail-in ballots.

He said the ballot counters opened each envelope with a ballot in it, then threw away the envelope which had the identification of the voter, then counted and kept the ballot--which did not have this information. So there is no way to know who voted in the tallies. All votes in a single drop of thousands or tens of thousands, etc., could have been all the same person. There is no way to tell. Quoting Rudy,

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Remember, the mail ballots were said from the beginning to be fraught with fraud, and instead of taking more care with them, they handled it like a Star Chamber proceeding. They literally counted these ballots in secret.

3. He said that 450,000 number will likely go up since he has not had time to to examine Lackawanna County yet. He has only had three days to investigate so far. But he thinks he will be wound up by Friday. In either case, he will be filing lawsuits all during the week, starting on Monday.

4. He mentioned this one case will be a civil rights case, another will be for conducting an unfair election, another will be for treating Pittsburgh and Philadelphia different than the rest of the state, which is an Equal Protection violation as given in the Supreme Court's Decision in Bush v. Gore.

5. He said it's not a coincidence all this happened in 8 different Democrat States, meaning there had to be an order from somewhere. 

6. He said there are five States with the same three issues (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Arizona): (1) Poll watchers not being able to look at the ballots, (2) Backdated ballots, (3) Dead people voting and people who's vote wasn't counted.

7. He said the denial of access by poll watchers was not isolated instances, but instead a systemic issue. 

8. He almost gloated when he put his hands up with fingers spread wide and said, "Ten states!"

There's more, too, in that interview. It's a great video for those who voted for Trump to look at.  

Reading between the lines, I think after the election is decided (for Trump, of course  ), or maybe even now, Rudy is going to pursue some kind of case against the Democrats, or at least a group of them, for conspiracy like he did with the mafia families he put away and, maybe the DOJ will even go with treason.

I won't predict at this point, but I know I would not want to be on the Democrat side--I mean, really really really not want to be there--as someone who is accused.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

For what it's worth, the following could be a crack in the dam or could be a simple CYA move--or, the most unlikely option, it is what it says it is and nothing more:

Let's see what happens

EDIT: I forgot to add, it could be a plumbing issue.  

Michael

Lookee here. President Trump just tweeted about this.

To me, that signals that something more is going on than just what's reported.

Like I've said, this legal challenge is being prosecuted using a death by a thousand cuts approach. Rudy is only one of many doing their own set of lawsuits.

This looks like the game plan to me. The picadors are jabbing the bull right now to weaken it for the matador to come in, give a show to please the crowd, and kill the bull with a sword thrust to the heart.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Wow.

Only 450,000 ballots so far with Joe Biden indicated and no other candidate voted for.

I wonder what happens if they get an audit where they can do a forensic ink analysis on those ballots (and handwriting, too, for the shape of the marks).

Sidney Powell is calling for an audit of the Dominion software, but also an audit of the entire election process. Her efforts are turning into a clamor and it is going to grow. I have no idea what she is filing so far, but I am sure whatever she does will have an extremely high chance of winning.

 

Sidney Powell

She's a beast and she's on it from her end.

A note about Sidney Powell for those who are not familiar with her. for decades, she has consistently had the court judgments of the jerks on the Mueller team overturned on appeal, even when that appeal went up to the Supreme Court. And at times there were severe rebukes from the judge for people like Andrew Weissmann and others. Those jerks have been railroading people for decades. Sidney can't undo the political damage these scumbags do, but she can--and does--get the cases they win overturned. Right now she is Michael Flynn's lawyer. Things only started looking up for him once she got on board.

 

Crusader

The difference I sense between lawyers like Sidney and Rudy and normal lawyers during election lawsuits is that these lawyers are full of righteous fury as citizens, not just as lawyers.

They are not fighting for Trump's case and his values as their moral foundation. They are fighting for their own values and they are outraged. Their work in Trump's case is one vehicle to do something about that outrage, not the reason for it.

These are crusaders inside themselves, not just lawyers. And the sheer size and blatant wrongdoing in this Presidental election fraud has primed them to their most deadly focus. They're coming for the bad guys as if they are Avenging Angels on a mission from God.

 

LATER EDIT

I forgot to mention, Sidney said this stuff has been going on for a long time, not just in the Trump-Biden election. She said this was probably how the Dems got rid of Bernie and not just once. Imagine the fireworks once that becomes common knowledge.

Heh heh heh...  

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

I don't have time to write up this video, but I believe it is a great one to watch right now.

It's another cut in that death by a thousand cuts idea. Only Scott did not deal with any legal issues other than general terms like "breaking the law," "legally," and so on.

This is a video about public perception being changed by an overwhelming amount of facts.

 

Frame

Scott's basic argument is that the Democrats had: 

1. Motive to cheat--Many Dems thought Trump was literally Hitler, so Scott asked, if you could take out someone you were sure was Hitler, would you fudge things a little to do it? Any decent person would. And how many Dems literally think Trump is as bad as Hitler? Many. So Scott gives this a 100% chance of existing.

2. Opportunity--There are plenty of physical opportunities to commit voter fraud like showing up with ballots in the middle of the night, corrupted software, etc., and he goes into them. Scott is not saying here that any of this did happen, only that it is easily possible to happen. Opportunity. So he also gives this a 100% chance of existing.

3. Thinking they can get away with it--Scott thinks most Dems would not think they could get away with it, but there are about 5% who would. It doesn't take more than those folks to pull off a cheat.

An interesting item Scott mentioned is that Blago gave an interview recently when he said Democrats have been cheating at city and state elections for decades--that this is the normal way for them to stay in power. Scott thinks that Blago is totally credible since he lived in that world as one of them before going to jail for shady shit.

So Scott asks, if this is true, would 5% of Dems who have gotten away with voter fraud the the last 39 times or so be too worried about getting caught time? He thinks not, or at least many of them would not.

 

How the frame looks

So in terms of have motive, opportunity and belief they could pull it off, Scott says there is a 100% chance this exists. And in his understanding of the world, whenever there are conditions this favorable to cheating, people will cheat. He hedged by saying he's not accusing anyone of cheating, just that this is the way humans normally work.

 

Data crunchers

With that frame, he filled it with something that I believe will make those who voted for Trump very happy. He didn't use the term "crowdsourcing," but this is exactly what he was talking about.

Crowdsourcing is when lots of people on the Internet all work on the same problem because they want to, not because it's a job requirement. Wikipedia, for example, is crowdsourced (despite all the meddling by administrators). 4Chan is great at crowdsourcing. Remember when 4Chan kids found Shia LaBeouf's flag out in the middle of nowhere based on wind patterns, planes flying overhead, etc.? That one was impressive.

Now back to Scott. He says the world's greatest data crunchers are looking at the election data and are finding anomalies and calculations that cannot be true everywhere in the problem states. And new cases are being added quickly. Scott didn't say whether these data crunchers were law enforcement, private agencies, or just plain old interested individuals, but he did say the data crunchers were all the A team of people who crunch data.

That would scare the crap out of me if I were someone on the inside of stealing this election.

 

How I see it

Now, here's how I see it. Once lists of findings of these data crunchers start becoming part of the mainstream, and all this will undoubtedly happen despite the mainstream fake news and social media blackouts, this will be an important part of changing the current mainstream narrative that voter fraud does not exist on a large scale. And since it look like the results will be so resoundingly blatant and undeniable, it will take the fight out of even the most hardcore Democrat. Some may still be a true believers, but their general enthusiasm will take a big hit.

And on the law enforcement and litigation angle, these data cruncher folks are doing the research for them. Since crowdsourced projects are high on showing sources (sourcing is thing with crowdsourcers), all law enforcement personnel and lawyers would have to do is check the results to see if there are any mistakes, then carry on with their law enforcing or litigating.

Since it looks like this is a huge and growing project right now, I think this is not just one of the thousand cuts, it's a gash.

 

Watch

Watch the video. Normally Scott has not been good about the election results (hinting that Trump should concede and so forth), but this time he nailed it.

Dayaamm!

Will you look at that. I did write up the video.

Once I get started, it seems like I can't shut up.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Fun fact.

It looks like Dominion Voting Systems has some deep ties to Soros, the Clintons, Pelosi, Feinstein and a slew of other top Dems.

From what is being uncovered, some of the ties are ownership, but others involve running the same front groups/projects/charities together.

Somebody should look into it, huh?

  

(Wanna bet they already are?)

Michael

[Dglgmut]

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Only 450,000 ballots so far with Joe Biden indicated and no other candidate voted for.

I thought it was suspicious that Rupublicans were getting more votes except when it came to the President. Why would someone vote for a Democrat President but leave the rest of the ballot blank??

 

Even as fraud it seems lazy... but I guess that's how the Dems work? They make their schemes obvious enough that you can gaslight common sense people by calling them a conspiracy theorist. (Do they just want division?)

 

Alternatively I did hear that while Trump picked up votes from minorities (mainly black and Latino men), he lost a lot of middle class women. That would explain the down-ballot Republican voting plus Biden.

[turkeyfoot]

I find my thinking going to alleged. Proof, is a high standard. It will take an enormous amount of energy and time to just fill the framework. It took 36 days for Gore/Bush hanging chad fiasco to be resolved before any joy. This isn't deja vu, its a first. Are courts ready to sweep aside dockets to deal with this?

Lt Gen T Mcinerney is 83 having last served in '94. Among his claims are a 2012 election fraud by the Obama admin in Florida done and repeated again this year to win the election against Trump.

Listen to what this man says. "It was then adopted with a software pkg just like on your Iphone. It was to be used and was used in foreign countries. They are looking around and are going to set up this voting thing that happens on Tuesday night. It going to look good for Pres Trump but they're going to change it. And that's the danger that America and everybody must realize. They used it in the primaries and Bernie lost to Biden."

Now just a second here. First thing to realize is someone spouted off code words and then the chorus reads from the songbook. The remoteness of the words to the General of this charge suggests to me he heard it in passing and latched on delivering it at the last minute. Powell too. Now it may be the General first heard about it in his situation in Viet Nam but it takes quite a lot to get from there to here.

"It might have happened in 2016 when the Obama crowd tried to use it and something happened. I cant talk about that."

Powell, "We intend to stop Hammer and Scorecard." Bannon, "Take that to the bank."

I know what it must feel like because this is good information. A retired Lt Gen delivered it. It "MUST" be true. 

And, Biden said, "We have put together one of the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organizations in the history of American politics." This is where its claimed of Biden that he explictly admitted running an operation that commits fraud. Uh, what he said with his inarticulate Bidenism is there something they have that will fight fraud.

Forgive me but its the sound of whistling in the wind.

I'm dismissive of it as it all seems to emanate from an octogenarian who clearly tries to pass off what he heard in a dark room as a real possibility. 

It occurs to me as the good General reeled off the historical usage as far back as 2012 no one else to my knowledge has said the same.

Powell may very well have something on it but she's going to have to translate it into substantive evidence for a judge. She's not a programmer and it seems highly unlikely anyone knowing first hand of the Hammer/Scorecard software would shy away from testifying. In fact these things involving software ie: Microsoft antitrust took 4 months to decide after first arguments. Then there was the guy, Randy Wolf, a guitarist with a band called Spirit who sued Led Zeppelin for stealing Stairway to Heaven that was just decided after it went to court in 2014.

 

[william.scherk]

1 hour ago, Dglgmut said:

Why would someone vote for a Democrat President but leave the rest of the ballot blank??

One outside possibility is a cohort of Never-Trump Republicans.  This cohort may voted for GOP House and Senate seats (where contested) -- and for party favourites in local races -- and grudgingly or grimly filled in the oval for Biden/Harris.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

46 minutes ago, turkeyfoot said:

Powell may very well have something on it but she's going to have to translate it into substantive evidence for a judge.

TF,

I wouldn't worry too much about that.

She's kinda good at it.

I've actually read Licensed to Lie, her earlier book. When Rush Limbaugh recommended it, I went and got a copy and blasted through it in a couple of three days. What a story of overturning judgments litigated by evil-minded prosecutor bullies on appeal--one after another (several involving the so-called pitbull, Andrew Weissmann).

I haven't read Conviction Machine: Standing Up to Federal Prosecutorial Abuse yet, but I will soon.

The lady is a beast.

She eats human legal douchebags for breakfast.

And you know how she does it?

Proof. And showing what half-assed proof the prosecutors provided/omitted/tampered with to get their original convictions.

I don't want to sound snarky, but your statement comes off to me like saying Michael Jordan may know how to play basic basketball, but he has to score points to win games. (Maybe someone should tell him?)  

That analogy is a bit dated, I know. But who was I going to use? Kneeling-ass Lebron?

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Keep your eye on this.

HUGE BREAKING NEWS IN GEORGIA – 132,000 Ballots in Fulton County, Georgia Have Been Identified Which Are Likely Ineligible

From the article:

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Huge news tonight.  There are reportedly 132,000 change of address flags in Fulton County, Georgia ballots. These ballots are likely ineligible.

Kyle Becker and People’s Pundit on Twitter announced moments ago that 132,000 ballots in Fulton Country Georgia are likely ineligible.

As noted above, the current difference between President Trump and Joe Biden after days of ballot harvesting by the left is around 10,000 ballots.

If these ballots are deemed ineligible, the state of Georgia is almost certainly won by President Trump and this is before the illegal voter harvesting in recent days is addressed.

Michael

[turkeyfoot]

Noting Powell took over Gen Flynns case in June '19. What may be the final oral arguments before the resolution of the case "takes" place on September 29, 2020. No other news since portend at least another round.

The wheels of justice grind loudly as Powell, perhaps an extremely competent former Federal prosecutor, grates on judges. Was it her demeanor or legal argument that didn't hold sway with the judge? 

 I'm reminded in the Last Dance, Jordan and Isiah still want to re-litigate their rivalry. Someone was beat up by the Bad Boys. Sport analogies do only so well. A perfect shot arcing down above the rim can be knocked aside but results in points for the shooter. In pickleball....no legitimate call can be made on a ball being in or out until it lands.

If only the law was as clear. And I were less cynical.

My take is, despite a fantasy or two, time will take a toll on the inordinate amount of proof required for a Trump 2nd term. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

23 minutes ago, turkeyfoot said:

Was it her demeanor or legal argument that didn't hold sway with the judge? 

TF,

It was Sullivan's crooked-ass backroom commitments.

That's just one possibility.

After all, the DOJ dropped the case and Sullivan still wants to put Flynn in jail.

Sullivan has essentially taken over the role of Prosecutor now

I mean, that's all the press has talked about for months now. That even penetrated the leftie bubble.

How could that be due to Powell's personality?

Maybe Sullivan hit on her and she rejected him?

 

Michael