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"Don't worry; we'll pick up the slack." It's...strange. When Trump first ran, I was not a fan of his, for a few reasons. But then I saw the over-reactions from others turn into TDS. I started to se

Michael, everyone, Notice, too, the Pence-Ryan email exchange linked to from the letter: https://files.constantcontact.com/899f3f04701/106dc3d3-c645-4215-bdd3-addad65bade2.pdf Ellen

Have you guys been watching the press trying to frame President Trump with the white supremacy thing? Let's start with the end first, then look at the idiot press. Here is just one compilation am

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

[Scott Adams is] putting his own reputation on this and, as he discussed early in the video, MediaMatters has already targeted him for smear campaigns.

Right-wing pundits and GOP officials are citing a white supremacist and anti-Semitic outlet to claim that the election was “stolen”

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Numerous conservative media figures have promoted the piece on the white supremacist and anti-Semitic site:  

Fox Nation host Lara Logan shared the piece on Twitter. 
Right-wing pundit and Trump campaign senior adviser Jenna Ellis shared the piece on Twitter and wrote: “Joe Biden says to follow the science.” 
The Federalist published a piece by Matthew Cochran that linked to The Red Elephants for support that the election is supposedly being stolen. 
Townhall published a piece by Rachel Alexander that linked to support the conspiracy theory that there was an “incredible amount of fraud” in the election.
Author and radio host Eric Metaxas shared the piece on Facebook. 
[▶] Cartoonist and right-wing pundit Scott Adams shared the piece on Twitter. 
Washington Times writer Douglas Ernst claimed on Twitter that The Red Elephants “consolidated and explained the giant statistical anomalies.” 

 

 

One line, one link to Scott Adams amplifying a Just-So story.

 

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1 hour ago, Mark said:

[Quoting Nick Griffin]:

But we have to be realistic; the historically significant highpoint of the day was the President’s failure to join his vast army of loving, angry and motivated supporters. This was a terrible and tragic error which will cost Donald Trump and America dear.

Mark,

You left out the subtitle of the article: The Moment the Republic Died.

I particularly liked this comment by Griffin at the link:

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The coming death of the Federal Republic will bring hard and truly historic times to North America. Trump has thrown away the chance to save it, for at least a few year years, through action which, it has to be admitted, could have led to civil war. But the fact he did nothing does not mean that civil war may not come. The irreconcilability between the two sides probably already makes it inevitable.

The only thing I have to say to that is that most Americans stopped caring about what Brits think of America way back in 1776. 

The Brits could not kill America back then and no idiot British politician bloviating will kill it now through bloviation.

But, to be fair, let's see what this idiot does when the Federal Republic does not die as he says it will. Will he retract what he said? Heh...

If you believe he will, I have some interesting things to sell you.

:) 

Michael

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4 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

One line, one link to Scott Adams amplifying a Just-So story.

William,

Actually, Scott dealt with that and the smear machine's smear campaign that arose from it in the video.

Betcha you didn't see the video and don't even care what he has to say about it.

Watcha think?

Am I right?

:evil: 

Michael 

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[Updated]

Narrowing down to the remaining legal actions** that could effect the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election.  Against this background:

In Movie Two, Earth Two, "official" results are still incoming -- if you reserve "official results" for the results of the final canvassing or the 'certified' totals published according to each state's calendar.

In Movie One, Earth Two, the "real" election isn't over until either a transfer of power happens at the inauguration or Trump is sworn in for a second term. 

At Earth Two's multiple drive-in theatres, the film shown is this:

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 On Earth One, Movie One, the action is pretty much in the civil courts.  As the film unreels, we see that some hyperbole about vast (and complicated) criminal conspiracies has been cast to the winds. Some are inflated promises and wild overstatements, some are probably convincing if we had the time to write the whole book, subject to meticulous investigation of the claims made. This wild part is probably exhilarating for more than you and me.   There seems to be a difference between what is claimed in the mighty free media spaces of America, and what is proven in American courts.  How will this movie turn out?  

On Earth One, Movie Two (uncut version of One),  the actual lawsuits and their progress is of extreme interest. Can the Kraken be summoned (and will the Kraken be destroyed as he is in a lot of movies), can the boasts and promises be turn into cold, hard, reality?

I hate going out to movies, me, so my vantage is of course limited in scope and actual claims of knowledge. I really don't know how anything is going to turn out. I have reasonable confidence that I understand what has turned out already in the twenty or so cases that I follow, courtesy of the "Enemy Encampment" at DemocracyDocket.com (which just crashed for me, perhaps from people suddenly showing interest in today's very special pleading in Pennsylvania).

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13 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I also know once Sidney Powell, L Lin Wood, Rudy Giuliani, etc., win election lawsuits based on that stuff, there is no way the media can ignore it.

Which particular suits do you think will be won? 

William,

Oh... off the top of my head, the one being generated from this.

I don't believe it has been filed yet.

Lin's name is on the "sole plaintiff" filingchrome-extension://gmpljdlgcdkljlppaekciacdmdlhfeon/images/beside-link-icon.svg in Georgia November 13, and on the updated filingchrome-extension://gmpljdlgcdkljlppaekciacdmdlhfeon/images/beside-link-icon.svg from yesterday:

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Oh, and Rudy Giuliani is in federal court right now, for the first time since the nineties.  Movie Time!

Note to self: always check for debunking attempts and also for responses to such attempts. Keep head space open for Pro/Con argumentation that will likely continue. 

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** Some readers may stop reading right here. I would ask that the court "read in" further meaning to "Narrowing down to the remaining legal actions that could effect the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election. By 'remaining legal actions' I meant cases before the courts right now. I did not speculate about future prospective filings except in my puckish Movie Earth fictive lines.

In any case, Rudy Giuliani is still in court right now!

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16 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Narrowing down to the remaining legal actions...

William,

I really dislike loaded misleading language.

How can legal actions be "remaining" when they haven't even been filed yet?

That makes absolutely no sense. Yet you are stating this wrong presupposition as a fact.

Wishing the Supreme Court suits won't happen and trying to mislead people with irrational insinuations couched in loaded language will not stop what is coming.

Do you do this to try to help your side gain time and run out the clock? I can't think of anything else to be gained by it.

 

On another issue, I'm glad your health issues seemed to have tuned out OK.

Be well. That's from the heart.

Michael

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Sidney Powell and several people around her keep showing the following video from Nov. 12, so I might as well put it here.

It is a good overview of some of the fraud in this election, especially some of what Dominion voting machines do.

And the presentation is well done. However, there is a music soundtrack that is as irritating as all get out. That's why, even though I saw it when it came out, I didn't post it until now.

If you can get around the music and you are not familiar with some of the things in it, you can see them unfold right in front of you.

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Just some more setup jazz.

I don't know the particulars of the payoff yet, but the setup jazz certainly is working on me. I can hardly wait. And, just from recent study, I know a lot more about this than most people.

A lot of people are getting impatient for the payoff. But I'm thoroughly enjoying the build up.

:)

Michael

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On 11/8/2020 at 6:18 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

It looks like Dominion Voting Systems has some deep ties to Soros, the Clintons...

Heh heh heh

I already knew about this office, but still, this is fun.

WATCH: Rebel News Reporter Escorted From Dominion Building After Discovering That They Share Office Floor With Soros-Linked Group
 

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Rebel News journalist Keean Bexte was escorted from the Dominion Voting office in Toronto after uncovering that they share a building with a George Soros-linked group.

Dominion Voting, who supplies voting machines to multiple swing states, has been under fire since it was revealed that their machines created a 6,000 vote swing in a single Michigan state county.

Bexte visited the Dominion Voting building located at 215 Spadina Avenue in Toronto in an effort to get some answers. He discovered that the vote tabulation company shares an office floor with an organization called Tides, which recently changed its name to Make Way.

Bexte wrote that the organization is “an extreme left eco-radical charity that directs cash supplied by George Soros to smaller groups and organizations to advance the globalist agenda of Soros.”

The close proximity of these organizations has left Bexte with many questions, including whether or not radical employees of George Soros able to access the same desks, filing cabinets, servers, and Wi-Fi of Dominion Voting and if any extra security protocols taken to ensure no voting data or proprietary information is protected.

When he attempted to get those answers, he was escorted from the building.

 

I'll put up a secondary video source when I find one.

Why does the name Trudeau keep coming to mind?

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5 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Crumble crumble crumble...

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I might add, anyone who insists on certifying with such blatant irregularities runs a huge risk of being caught up in the upcoming criminal case.

Michael

It looks like a deal was made for certifying in exchange of an audit of a few precincts.

I don't know many details, yet.

Still, even if this happened, nothing really changes about what is coming.

As Sidney said in another place, "I would warn any state right now that thinks they’re going to certify this election to rethink it very seriously because what they’re certifying is their own fraud and their own complicity in fraud."

This actually makes it easier to clean house in the end.

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2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

It looks like a deal was made for certifying in exchange of an audit of a few precincts.

I don't know many details, yet.

It looks like it was a Godfather-like deal they couldn't refuse.

That's not a rhetorical question.

It leads to here:

This is just Jack Poso saying so, but he generally has some great sources.

Also, there's some video and things of implied threats at The Gateway Pundit.Democrat Wayne County Board Member of Canvassers Threatened Two Republican Members Who Refused to Certify Ballots (VIDEO)

Oddly enough, this might be a good thing in the long run. As I understand it, the bulk of the criminal investigation is going to be centered on the Dominion voting machines system and those who used it, but this stuff is pretty easy to tack on to provide context and credibility.

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Take a look at the Dominion Voting Systems logo.

I got that from a screenshot in a video since the account is nixed on Twitter.

But that's par for the course.

Look carefully.

There's a red ballot going in and a blue ballot coming out.

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Also, as the guy posting mentioned, "Dominion" is the opposite of freedom. And "Changing the way people vote" doesn't have to mean making it easier to vote. It can literally mean changing people's votes.

I bet some smartass in the advertising or marketing staff at the beginning thought it would be funny to let the public know to their faces what is going on and not even perceive it. Then the insiders could yuk it up at how stupid the public was as opposed to themselves, the smart ones.

 

Well now these smart ones are deleting their Linkedin accounts and the Dominion techies are all moving to Serbia. Seriously. That is what is going on right now.

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Many thousands of thanks to Ellen for letting me know offline that have consistently misspelled Sidney Powell's name.

Ellen's a gem.

I am correcting the error, too. I admire Sidney Powell too much to let that stand. Ya' gotta get her name right at least.

Besides, a consistent error like that does not belong on a site devoted to the ideas of Ann Rande.

:)

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Many thousands of thanks to Ellen for letting me know offline that have consistently misspelled Sidney Powell's name.

Ellen's a gem.

I am correcting the error, too. I admire Sidney Powell too much to let that stand. Ya' gotta get her name right at least.

Besides, a consistent error like that does not belong on a site devoted to the ideas of Ann Rande.

:)

Michael

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I have a thought that just won't leave me. It's been rolling around in my head for a several days.

If it turns out that people think enough of the rules have been followed that Biden won, cheating or no cheating--meaning he would have won regardless, there will be a total peaceful transfer of power.

If it turns out that everyone perceives the election was rigged and Trump actually won by a landslide and they are told the cheater gets to take power anyway and just suck it up, I honestly don't know what will happen. America's founding was a war over this in essence. Americans in general don't like losing, but they accept it if them's the rules. But they have to believe the system was a good referee. Not a perfect referee, mind you. Just a good one. At times they will even accept a mediocre referee.

But if they feel the system, the referee, is completely crooked, that there was no point in playing in the first place, they will arise in some form--in mass--and kick the bums out. They will do it decisively, too. They will wage war if they have to, even if it has to be a civil war. They will restore law and order.

In such a case, I don't know it if will be a violent uprising or just massive demonstrations and shutdowns and consistent sabotage of the impostor. But when it gets to a point where a doer like President Trump, who generates enormous crowds, who creates wealth for all, who creates peace in the world is beaten in a landslide by an old decrepit corrupt man who is losing his mind and didn't even campaign, it's just too obvious the referee is counterfeit beyond repair. 

Trump people do things, not just talk about them. So they will neutralize the scoundrels, take out the garbage and rebuild the system right.

Think about Trump taking out Soleimani. Problem solved. Now back to building. That's how Trump Americans do it when the bullying reaches a certain level, although they vastly prefer the way Trump has been doing with Kim Jong-un. They will not tolerate a takeover of the American government by blatant cheaters. I know I won't. I will do something.

Fortunately, we will not have to worry about that. I'm just musing to get rid of the thought. I mean, with nonstop propaganda you can't not think these things.

The good news is President Trump will be sworn in on January 20 and the cheating-ass bad guys will never know the bullet they dodged. After the inauguration, the worst of them will be hunted down and jailed after due process, but that is vastly superior to the alternative for them, even though they don't know it.

I say all this based on everything I have learned about human nature.

Michael

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3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

If it turns out that people think enough of the rules have been followed that Biden won, cheating or no cheating--meaning he would have won regardless, there will be a total peaceful transfer of power.

For one thing, I think that the people who voted for Trump wouldn’t believe that Biden won fairly.  Not at this point.  There's too much evidence of cheating.

But I'm thinking that even if a Biden win seemed a fair win according to voting percentages, there would be rebellion.  Your reference to the Revolutionary War is apt.  It's more than an issue of not liking cheating.  Trump supporters don’t want to be ruled by a foreign power.  And a Biden Presidency would amount to outright handing control of the US to technocrat globalists and China.

(The technocrats and China are aligned in wanting the US subjugated, but, that accomplished, they’d be vying with each other.  Each is currently trying to use the other.)

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3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

In such a case, I don't know it if will be a violent uprising or just massive demonstrations and shutdowns and consistent sabotage of the impostor. But when it gets to a point where a doer like President Trump, who generates enormous crowds, who creates wealth for all, who creates peace in the world is beaten in a landslide by an old decrepit corrupt man who is losing his mind and didn't even campaign, it's just too obvious the referee is counterfeit beyond repair. 

Trump people do things, not just talk about them. So they will neutralize the scoundrels, take out the garbage and rebuild the system right.

There is going to be a conflict either way. If Trump is sworn in the far left will be violent, of course, and the right will not, except in some self-defensish situations. If Biden is officially selected, there will not be violence from the right, except perhaps a terror attack.

Either way I see a legal resolution being sought. I think the country will have to break up. It is too easy to do that when compared to the alternative.

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4 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

But I'm thinking that even if a Biden win seemed a fair win according to voting percentages, there would be rebellion.  Your reference to the Revolutionary War is apt.  It's more than an issue of not liking cheating.  Trump supporters don’t want to be ruled by a foreign power.  And a Biden Presidency would amount to outright handing control of the US to technocrat globalists and China.

I don't know about a major shift in control if Biden were President; I feel like he would be largely ineffective at doing anything, and Kamala even more-so, being unelected. However the idea of a President blatantly stealing the election sets an unacceptable precedent. I see this being the main reason he cannot be elected if there is substantial legal evidence.

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Sidney Powell from last night with Greg Kelly on Newsmax:

Her findings have not been filed in court yet, but she said once they are put into a correct form... ah hell... It's better to let her say it. Transcript time.

Transcript coming...

EDIT: Transcript (there might be some small errors from working quickly):

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GREG KELLY: Folks, we've got some news out of Michigan and this could be very significant. From the Detroit... well actually will go to Jenna Ellis first. Breaking this evening. 

"The county board of canvassers in Wayne County, Michigan refused to certify the election results if the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors huge win for Donald Trump." 

Very very interesting. They found major problems with... let's see here... absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast, the imbalances between August and November are not an exact comparison... But look. There's a lot here and we've got the perfect person, Sidney Powell standing by. Member of President Trump's legal team. Sidney, welcome. And I know you've been handling a lot of the Georgia situation and Dominion, but, your reaction to the situation in Michigan, please.

SIDNEY POWELL: That's an excellent development and I would expect the entire Michigan board to reject the counts from the ballots. The election could not have been more rigged than it was. 

And I think it also affected the rights of Senator John James. The same patterns fall there. We're still doing statistical analysis of that race, but the math just doesn't add up for anything. And we know Dominion has a long history of rigging elections. That's what it was created to do to begin with. 

We've introduced the affidavit of the person who worked with Maduro, a high ranking military officer who saw it all happen and explained how it worked. And it's out for the public to see on my Twitter feed at @SidneyPowell1. So don't tell me there's no evidence of fraud. We've got increasingly mounting evidence of significant fraud across multiple states that casts into question the validity of the elections in every swing state, including Nevada and Arizona and Michigan... Wisconsin... Georgia... And it went beyond that, too.

GREG KELLY: You know, regarding Dominion, you've raised this and we saw the letter last night. People like Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, have raised significant concerns about Dominion. Now they're trying to make it seem like a right wing wacko conspiracy concern, even though people like PBS were raising serious issues about Dominion just before the election. I heard you say today Dominion, the software, was actually designed to be hacked and I'm looking at one of the agreements they had with the county Santa Clara on... this is a contract between them and Dominion. 

Item 226 "allows staff to adjust tally based on review of scanned ballot images."

Look. You're the lawyer. I'm no tech expert, but that sounds very, very funky to me.

SIDNEY POWELL: And worse than that, it had a back door so it could be manipulated by anyone who could access it through that back door. And that was a deliberate feature the affidavit of the young military officer we provided yesterday to the public explains--how it was created for that very purpose so Majuro, I mean so Hugo Chavez would never lose another election. And he did not after that software was created. He want every single election. And then they exported it to Argentina and other countries in South America. 

And then they brought it here. It's a foreign company no matter how you look at it, so they've already violated the President's order against foreign interference in our elections. Our votes were actually eventually counted in Barcelona, Spain or Frankfort, Germany on foreign servers.

It's absolutely stunning. And what's really stunning is the effort that is being mounted against getting the truth out on this. But you have to realize that every tech company, every media company, every social media company, scads of globalist corporations, have been doing business in countries with these dictators that have been installed through this rigged election system for decades. The corruption is actually worldwide. It is going to upset a countless number of elections across this country and around the world.

GREG KELLY: All right... 

SIDNEY POWELL: But we need to do that to get rid of the corruption.

GREG KELLY: It does make a lot of sense, now, how Joe Biden campaigned, i..e., not campaigning. Their team seemed to know something. If this is true about Dominion, and I suspect it is... By the way, regarding... okay... So we have these concerns. You've got your whistle blower. Who do you bring this to? What happens next? What body do you have do implore to take action?

SIDNEY POWELL: Well we can add a fraud claim to any of the states in which litigation has already been filed as soon as we can get the rest of the material together that I'm still in the process of collecting. Because, frankly, witnesses are coming forth every day that are fed up with the corruption in Dominion, and in the states, and in the counties, and in the country. So we're intaking information at an amazing level of people who want to stop this and are absolutely fed up with it.

GREG KELLY: You mentioned...

SIDNEY POWELL: We've got the evidence from the young [sic] mouths of the guy who founded the company. I haven't even had a chance to get that out to the public, yet. But they admit, the founder of the company admits, he can change a million votes. No problem at all.

GREG KELLY: The founder of Dominion admitted a long time ago? Recently to you? Tell us more, please.

SIDNEY POWELL: Publicly. I will tweet out the video later and I'll tag you in it.

GREG KELLY: Please do: @gregkellyusa if you don't mind. That's pretty wild. Oh, by the way, what can you tell us about... you mentioned the whistle blower. There is a whistle blower. Remember, whistle blowers who are against President Trump are held as heroes and deified. What can you tell us about this individual?

SIDNEY POWELL: The one who gave us the affidavit?

GREG KELLY: Yes.

SIDNEY POWELL: He was a high ranking military officer. He was very close to Hugo Chavez. And he is just absolutely disgusted with what he's seen and was participating in when he was with Mr, Chavez. He saw how it all worked. He was at meetings where it was fully briefed. And he wants this country to not fall prey to the same corruption and tactics that were used in Venezuela.

GREG KELLY: And I'm sorry. Is he an American military officer or a Venezuelan military officer?

SIDNEY POWELL: He was a Venezuelan military officer. He lives in this country now.

GREG KELLY: All right. And you mention the CIA today. I heard you during a radio appearance. You want the CIA director fired. It seemed a little bit off topic and off message. But what's the tie-in, if you don't mind?

SIDNEY POWELL: The tie-in is that there's no way that these programs could have been run around the world to affect elections without the CIA. We also have had people disclose to us the whole Hammer program that was created for the CIA, and Scorecard, which is essentially the same thing. 

It seems like every country has used something like this to do what it wants to do. Supposedly ours was invented to influence foreign elections. But that, too, could have been turned on this election. It's all part of the same part and parcel of government interference in elections to make choices against the will of the people. 

And the will of the people in this country was that Donald Trump win in a landslide. If we can get to the bottom of it, and I am determined to do that, I think we'll find he had at least eighty million votes. 

The only reason the glitches happened in the system was because he was so... had so far many more votes than they had calculated in advance, their algorithms wouldn't perform the functions they'd originally performed... they were set to perform. They couldn't make up the vote count. He had gotten so many hundreds of thousands more than they'd planned. So that's when they had to stop the counting and come up with a way to backfill the votes, or destroy votes for Trump, while they fabricated votes for Biden.

GREG KELLY: Sidney Powell, who is a former federal prosecutor by the way, spent ten years working for the federal government. Good luck. And by the way, very quickly. You have evidence. It's coming in fast. There is a reason for not making it public. Correct? 

I mean, you're gonna have a hostile media picking it apart, possibly trying to destroy your case, before you can even make it. Is that part of your thinking? Very briefly, if you don't mind.

SIDNEY POWELL: Well, not really. It's a matter of collecting it in the right form and format to be admissible. And we have witnesses that are scared. we have witnesses that are afraid for their lives, afraid for their families back in Venezuela. There are all kinds of concerns. People have been threatened. It's very serious.

We're talking about trillions of dollars of worldwide wealth here that was all corrupt. And every force in the world except eighty million voters, we the people, and my little team seem to be against us.

GREG KELLY: Well. Millions are praying for you and with you. and find her on Twitter. Least we can do. Sydney Powell one, @SidneyPowell1, the numeral one. We appreciate it so much. Good luck and please stay...

I imagine the last word is "safe." :) 

The first thing that jumped out to me was how refreshing Greg Kelly's approach was. There were no bullshit questions like, "What does it say to you that... yawp yawp yawp?" And other crap like that.

He asked the things people want to know: Was the whistle-blower a US military official or a Venezuelan one? What is the tie-in with the CIA? What happens next?--meaning how do you get this into the legal system? And things like that.

My God! A reporter who actually knows about WWWWWH (who what when where why and how).

Of note, Sidney said she believes there were 80 million votes for Trump.

And that she can add a fraud claim to all of the court cases that have been opened so far.

Also, she alluded to President Trump's Executive Order of 2018 about foreign interference in US elections. I wanted to shout, Hurray! when I heard that.

Her exact words that alluded to the EO: "It's a foreign company no matter how you look at it, so they've already violated the President's order against foreign interference in our elections."

That EO is going to wreak havoc on Biden's election outcome, and, I might add, on Biden himself. Including his peeps. And I bet it will serve as one of the main legal pretexts for dismantling some tech giants and even giant media companies that are hostile to the US as constituted.

It would not surprise me if the Supreme Court weighs in on this Executive Order and connects it with relevant parts in the Constitution. 

This interview was one of Sidney Powell's best so far.

Michael

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