Current Riots in America (June 2020)

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

OK, somebody's got to say it.

The Washington Post really likes stores being trashed and looted during riots, right?

The Washington Post really likes people being afraid to go to stores right?

The Washington Post is owned by Amazon, right?

I'll let you put two and two together and see what you come up with.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

The following video is hilarious.

I don't know where it was taken, but it is in English.

The Twitter user is a Brazilian Member of Congress (equivalent to the House in the US) and the son of the current President of Brazil.

It's kinda hard to translate what Eduardo wrote because of the emotional tones, but here is the gist.

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A Leftwing Useful Idiot realizing that his conservative friend was right when he said he (the Useful Idiot) was toilet paper for true Leftists.

And don't forget the video is in English.

LOL...

Michael

[Peter]

I was looking for letters concerning the protection of individual rights and property during rioting and though the following is not about rioting it was still interesting to see BB interact with George H. Smith.

And I won’t reprint it, but I also found letters about the LA riots and how some Asian American store owners guarded their stores with fire arms and shot at rioters. When protesting turns to rioting the rioters are violating life and liberty and should be stopped by the least amount of retaliatory force needed.

Also of interest Fox had a NYC moving company owner who talked about the upsurge of people moving out of the city. His business was booming. When our TV was turned on this morning instead of the usual programming ALL the major networks were focused on the rioting. Peter

From: BBfromM To: atlantis Subject: Re: ATL: ayn rand quote Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:40:36 EDT. George wrote: << I am convinced that Ayn Rand was essentially an anarchist in substance, if not in name. She was at most a nominal governmentalist. If the conventional meaning of a word is to count for anything at all (and it should), then Rand's ideal "government" is in fact no government at all, but is merely a sheep in wolf's clothing. >>

Since you were concerned, rightly, with Nathaniel's statement of the meaning of volition he intended, it is, by the same standard, incorrect to call Ayn Rand "an anarchist in substance." She was not for "nominal" government; she was for   *minimal* government -- limited to police force, courts, and defense. Her ideal government IS a government; no anarchist would sanction a national/state police force, courts, and defense. **Ayn Rand said that she was NOT an anarchist.**

George wrote: <<How can I make this outrageous claim? I base it on Rand's moral opposition to coercive taxation. >>

Ayn Rand was, indeed, against coercive taxation. But she argued that government should be financially supported by its citizens -- in the form, as an example, of a payment when a contract is signed, since government is required to enforce contracts should they be abrogated. Her idea was that to the extent that one uses the services of government, one should pay for those services.

George wrote: <<Virtually every defender of government -- from John Locke to Thomas Jefferson to Ludwig von Mises -- has recognized coercive taxation to be an essential component of sovereignty, a power without which no true government can exist.>>

With all respect to Locke, Jefferson, and Mises -- So what? Ayn Rand did not agree with them that no true government can exist without coercive taxation, and she presented an alternative.

You wrote: << Perhaps when Rand wrote that, she was thinking of some other type of anarchist rather than an anarcho-capitalist or anarcho-libertarian.>>

No, she was not. She rejected *all* forms of anarchism, communist, socialist, anarcho-capitalist, and anarcho-libertarian, and any yet-to-be-imagined kind of anarchism. Barbara

[Jon Letendre]

On 6/1/2020 at 11:00 PM, Brant Gaede said:

He was murdered.

--Brant

I’ve seen a picture of the cop with his hand either cgi’d-out or in his pocket and kneeling on a black person.

Thats all I have. Is there additional reliable info? What came before? Why is he being restrained? Was he returning to violence when released from restraint so that what I saw in the picture was proper and his death an unfortunate consequence of his own behavior?

Tell me what I still don’t know about, so that I too can understand that he was murdered.

[Brant Gaede]

4 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

I’ve seen a picture of the cop with his hand either cgi’d-out or in his pocket and kneeling on a black person.

Thats all I have. Is there additional reliable info? What came before? Why is he being restrained? Was he returning to violence when released from restraint so that what I saw in the picture was proper and his death an unfortunate consequence of his own behavior?

Tell me what I still don’t know about, so that I too can understand that he was murdered.

Well, what is that cop's present status?

I'll try to find time later for your question .

--Brant

[Jon Letendre]

We need government, it protects individual rights and keeps the peace and order we all require for our thriving.

When an officer of the courts, an agent of the government, is in fear for his safety because a citizen is fighting him instead of complying with lawful orders, then whatever happens next is on the outlaw.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Here is what the fake news media will not show you as they enhance their fear-mongering stories.

And it is the reason the Second Amendment is so important.

Notice that the violence is only happening in left-wing cities. The Antifa idiots and their fellow travelers tried to export their unrest to the suburbs and smaller towns.

It didn't go so well.

"They're Getting The Sh*t Kicked Out Of Them": Antifa Attempt To Riot In California Suburb Goes Awry

Here is the video in the article.

That one didn't have many guns or emphasis on them.

But there are other videos in that article where guns are front and center.

 

Hell, even Latin gangs in big cities are protecting their neighborhoods against Antifa.

Look at this shootout with Antifa right here in Chicago with the Latin Kings gang.

That is, if you can call a bunch of Antifa (and fellow traveler) idiots running for their lives from a hail of bullets a shootout.

 

The people behind this uprising believed their own bullshit and ate their own dogfood. They don't know who in hell Americans are.

They thought the world revolved around the stories in the mainstream fake news media and political toadies, mostly of the Democratic and never-Trump variety.

If these idiots keep going, they are going to get hurt real bad. They have no idea the world of pain that is going to come down on their heads through law enforcement. And, frankly, they better hope law enforcement gets them and not armed citizens. 

The funders of this crap are not stupid, so they have to be watching. They are also looking at their dollars with wings flying off into the sunset to be seen no more.

Even the Chinese Communist Party, which would love nothing more than be a part of this (if it already isn't), is probably looking at this stuff and thinking, "Maybe taking over America is more complicated that we imagined."0

 

Well...

Maybe just one more since it feels so damn good.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

It's not that easy for me to tear up.

But I had to wipe away tears from watching this. Tears of empathy and heartbreak for her loss...

It's going to take some time to get this out of my head and let it just be a memory.

Michael

[Jon Letendre]

Going along with the methodology that brought us so many coronavirus deaths, since he had it, he died from it.

 Floyd died from the ‘Rona, so the riots can stop now.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/george-floyd-tested-positive-coronavirus-april-autopsy-says-n1224396

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This.

The video is embedded from Facebook and I haven't figured out how to make it smaller yet.

George Floyd had a long rap sheet. Including invading the house of a pregnant woman at gunpoint and holding her hostage as his cohorts ransacked her house, And including many stints in the joint.

Also, he was a serious druggy.

Candace doesn't think he needed to die, but she is sick at heart that this guy is being held up as a black hero in the press and by many in the black community.

He wasn't. He was a small time criminal.

Michael

[tmj]

Candace is awesome , she is courageous and intellectually rigorous, do we need to be fearful for her ?

[anthony]

40 minutes ago, tmj said:

Candace is awesome , she is courageous and intellectually rigorous, do we need to be fearful for her ?

Michelle too.

https://twitter.com/michellemalkin?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

10 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The Antifa idiots and their fellow travelers tried to export their unrest to the suburbs and smaller towns.

It didn't go so well.

. . .

If these idiots keep going, they are going to get hurt real bad. They have no idea the world of pain that is going to come down on their heads through law enforcement. And, frankly, they better hope law enforcement gets them and not armed citizens. 

There is a theory going around that one of the reasons President Trump was so eager to get the National Guard going was to save lives.

In this past month alone, I saw somewhere that there have been over 2 million new gun owners. A good chunk of them are liberals, some of whom never owned a gun in their lives.

Gun stores and manufacturers are having a bumper crop season with the fake news-sponsored riots.

In places where the population is well-armed, there will come a point where their patience blows out. After all, they have work to do, not just babysitting some assholes who want to destroy their stuff. And if Antifa & Co. get to staring down the barrels of guns owned by neighborhood people protecting their property, then someone makes a bad move, it will not go as well for them as it would the National Guard.

This is a theory, but it makes plenty of sense to me.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, tmj said:

Candace is awesome , she is courageous and intellectually rigorous, do we need to be fearful for her ?

T,

I doubt it. 

I think it's quite plausible she will be the first female President of the USA in a couple of decades or more..

Michael

[Strictlylogical]

27 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I think it's quite plausible she will be the first female President of the USA in a couple of decades or more..

Oh my... don’t fill me with false hopes like that.

 A living example to explode so many of the false narratives in identity politics and a sane voice to reject socialism and encourage right thinking (up to a point) ??  

That really would be awesome!
 

 

 

[tmj]

Michael,

I do share your optimism and enthusiasm about what the future could look/ be like with people like Candace in it. 

This still IS America, the narrative that it is over or even that America was never a shining city on a hill is false. I suppose my pessimism stems from the bridge laying/knee bending supplicants and what some may do to prove their fealty to the "cause".

T

[Ellen Stuttle]

2 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I doubt it. 

I don't doubt that there''s reason to be fearful for Candace Owens' safety.  Like you, Michael  I hope that she'll be the first female US President.  But she has to be alive to become that.

Ellen

[Jon Letendre]

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

T,

I doubt it. 

I think it's quite plausible she will be the first female President of the USA in a couple of decades or more..

Michael

She would also become the first black President.

[Peter]

The problem of arresting antifa members who are committing violence is that there may be a legitimate protest going on with thousands of people involved, and that interferes with Americans’ rights to protest and demonstrate. It would be difficult (for the police on the scene) to identify violent characters and antifa members because many “innocent protesters” are also wearing masks and milling around. It helps that hundreds of cell phones may be filming the action and the videos are being posted. Those cell phone videos could be scrutinized quickly back at headquarters or on the scene, and arrests could be made. But would that be evidence usable in court? At least those identified, violent, law breaking looters and arsonists could be yanked off the street.

I saw General Mattis is protesting the use of "active" U.S. troops, not the National Guard, to quell the violent rioting and he may be historically and legally correct, but what if HIS home was being torched and his family being killed? I thought the potential for the White House being burned to the ground in the District of Columbia could be used as a legitimate reason to use American troops . . . there and in that situation. Peter       

Notes. Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University and a CBS and BBC legal analyst . . . . A president does not have power to declare an entity to be a terrorist organization. Such a designation under federal law is confined to “foreign terrorist” organizations — and for that reason, these designations are made through the U.S. State Department. While many have dismissed the possibility of a terrorist designation for antifa because it is a domestic movement, the administration could make a slim, if highly challengeable, claim that antifa has international reach with supporters in other countries. It would be a stretch, but people should not assume that such a designation is impossible. The administration could also move to bar travel and entry of those associated with the movement, including foreign associates. Most worrisome, such a designation can allow a broader crackdown, and even criminal charges, for those deemed to offer “material support” to the movement. That, of course, raises serious constitutional concerns. This terrorist designation would raise chilling implications for free speech in the United States  . . . We do not need to use the designation of terrorist organizations to curb acts of violence in this country.  When antifa members or others engage in criminal acts, we have ample criminal laws to use against them. Indeed, cases currently being prosecuted by the Justice Department for throwing Molotov cocktails in New York, including charges against two young attorneys, are likely to be framed as domestic terrorism without any formal designation . . . .

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

I saw General Mattis is protesting the use of "active" U.S. troops, not the National Guard, to quell the violent rioting and he may be historically and legally correct, but what if HIS home was being torched and his family being killed?

Peter,

Or he just may be a social-climbing swamp creature who got disgruntled because how dare that inferior commoner thing from the American livestock, Donald Trump, fire him? Good God! A thing like that... Fire HIM?!!! Chaos? Mad Dog? The legend?

And he needed to stroke his petty vanity because it was making him crazy like a toothache...

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, Jon Letendre said:

She would also become the first black President.

LOL...

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

I don't doubt that there''s reason to be fearful for Candace Owens' safety.  Like you, Michael  I hope that she'll be the first female US President.  But she has to be alive to become that.

Ellen,

When I wrote that, I was so tired, I didn't complete what was on my mind--I had to look up some things to be sure and I think my subconscious closed it all down out of laziness.  

I meant that I doubt it because her hubby, George Farmer, is the son of Lord Farmer, a peer in the British House of Lords. I imagine this comes with some kind of protection detail.

Also, George runs a huge hedge fund, Red Kite. That probably pays for some rip-righteous body guards.

But, of course, you are right to be concerned. There is no doubt in my mind there are many who would be willing to assassinate her if they could manage it. She's stepping all over their power.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Or he just may be a social-climbing swamp creature who got disgruntled because how dare that inferior commoner thing from the American livestock, Donald Trump, fire him? Good God! A thing like that... Fire HIM?!!! Chaos? Mad Dog? The legend?

And he needed to stroke his petty vanity because it was making him crazy like a toothache...

Here's a longer answer from Rush Limbaugh today: Unity Isn’t Possible with People Against Making America Great.

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... Mattis is saying that Trump violates the Constitution by clearing the park of peaceful protesters. I’ll tell you, folks, hell hath no fury like a deep-stater scorned. Threat to the Constitution? He even got close to comparing Trump to the Nazis, folks, when he starts talking about (impression), “I’ve faced these people in all my years a great military man.

“I’ve faced forces like this.” He implied Trump’s got Nazi-like, fascist-like tendencies — all because Trump did a walk to St. John’s Church and carried a Bible and then dared to have a photo taken. Mattis said, “When I joined the military some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution.

“Never did I dream that troops taking the same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens, much less to provide a bizarre photo-op for the elected commander-in-chief with military leadership standing alongside.” I’m sorry, I missed this. When did the park police and Secret Service become “the military”?

What am I missing?

He just had to drag the Nazis in there somehow. “Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that the Nazi slogan for destroying us was ‘divide and conquer.’ Our American answer is, ‘in union there is strength.'” So there you go. Trump is reminiscent of the Nazis because he’s not even trying to unite the country.

Mr. Mattis, General Mattis, you’ve seen what these people did to Trump. Hell, you may have been part of it for all we know. How in the world is he supposed to unify with that? How’s he supposed to unify with Comey? How’s he supposed to unify with Clapper, Brennan, McCabe, practically all of MI5 and MI6? How’s he supposed to do this?

They ran a coup against him, sir! It’s still ongoing. What do you mean, he’s not even trying to unify? I think you’re exactly wrong. I think Trump is trying to amass a massive army of supporters of the American people to continue to support him and reelect him so that this valiant, honorable objective of making America great again can resume.

It's time for Mattis to go back to a cocktail party or something and look down his nose at normal Americans.

He embarrasses himself when he comes out for a walk.

Michael

[Jon Letendre]

We can work on unity after the thousands of traitors and coup-plotters have hanged.

It won't even be work, it will just be. All the lies, propaganda and manipulation will end when the parties who need it to stay alive are dead.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

The following video is why I admired Glenn Beck so much a few years ago.

It's a hell of an inspiring rant.

I have a caveat, though. Glenn broke my trust once before. Maybe he just now saw the true nature of the people he got in bed with on his little boneheaded adventure to become an Old Testament prophet. If he keeps the fire in this video up, I may start liking him again for real.

But it's hard to forget that Glenn Beck fought Donald Trump tooth and nail as America was coming out of the collectivism death-spiral of the Obama administration.

There's a saying about power that people who fight in a revolution are not the same who can govern a country in peace. Maybe Glenn is one of these folks. He's a great fighter in a war. And then when peace, or the illusion of peace comes, and he just wimps out and turns into mush and bullshit.

Right now, we need public voices like the one in this video, though.

And, in the hopes he keeps this style up, at least during the take-down of the Deep State (after which, he can go back to being mush and bullshit for all I care), I say bravo to his words in this video.

May those words of his be mine.

Michael