Current Riots in America (June 2020)


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Current Riots in America (June 2020)

There's not really much to say about this except the riots started in May.

The people who want control of the government by force are making their move. They chose one event (from many), the George Floyd killing at the hands of the police, and used that to kick into high gear.

They attacked the Lincoln Memorial and damaged a historic church in Washington DC.

Here is what President Trump said just now. Start at about 10:05.

I think President Trump's actions are going to solve the violence pretty quickly.

So, unless people want to keep repeating the shock images the mainstream press is wallowing in right now, I predict this will not be a long thread.

🙂 

I do think there will be other moves made by the bad guys, though. I believe waves of crap will go on until President Trump is inaugurated for his second term.

Michael

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1 hour ago, Brant Gaede said:

He has the power to federalized all or any state national guard.

I hope The Great President Trump shamed those quaking governors with some "truthy" talking points and gave them a pair of balls they should have had before this crap started. The black guy who WAS smothered and had a heart attack was high on Meth and Fentinol. He was obliviously high, out of control, resisting arrest, and a danger to himself and others.      

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3 minutes ago, Peter said:

I hope The Great President Trump shamed those quaking governors with some "truthy" talking points and gave them a pair of balls they should have had before this crap started. The black guy who WAS smothered and had a heart attack was high on Meth and Fentinol. He was obliviously high, out of control, resisting arrest, and a danger to himself and others.      

He was murdered.

--Brant

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And this is how you fight the story war.

You take away the rioter's story-thunder.

On a large social canvas, people are always more afraid of the story than they are of the reality.

So you stomp the story-thunder into nothingness by giving people a different story, backed up by reality, showing that such thunder is irrelevant to the big picture.

And you start with the leader showing how this is done.

That's how those complicit in the story thunder, like the Democratic Governors and Mayors, end up looking like candy-asses.

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

And this is how you fight the story war.

I'm thinking that the riot fomenters are miscalculating and handing Trump a plus just when he needs one to distract from (varied) discontents over his handling of COVID-19 response.

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3 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

I'm thinking that the riot fomenters are miscalculating and handing Trump a plus just when he needs one to distract from (varied) discontents over his handling of COVID-19 response.

Ellen

Ellen,

I fully agree.

They are also pissing off a lot of black people. Not just Trump-friendly blacks, either.

btw - This ain't going to go well for the professional rioters and lawbreakers.

Lookkee here:

Everybody takes video these days, so here come the Feds...

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Michael

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It was quite the optic and pretty ballsy walking through the park after it just being cleared. I noticed Ms Hicks in the entourage, forgot she just came back.

Tucker sure doesn’t like Jared, started his show with a fairly scathing description of the Admin’s handling of the rioting so far. He did give the President an out in that a stronger response going forward will be seen as regaining some lost ground.

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Sitting in my fairly rural armchair I wonder why municipalities didn’t deactivate cell towers after curfews in their cities.

I bet the crowds would have thinned by at least half if ‘instas’ and selfies in front of a burning vehicle weren’t possible.

Emergency and police personnel could have coordinated the use of radios and satellite comm/ phones.

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12 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

He was murdered.

I don't disagree, but he was on the ground for a reason: his bad, drugged up behavior.  I think the police, or at least one of them, wanted to kill him though he looked shocked when he was "found out" after killing the guy. When do you use lethal force? Not just when a gun, knife, or club are aimed at you but when tazing and restraining don't work and the perpetrator is still acting crazy and violent.   

This is an obvious fact but cell phone cameras which immediately upload to the cloud, preserve evidence and make the truth obvious and for posterity. I also agree with the police chief's bromide that all the facts are not known until the investigation is complete. Remember how you once heard, "Grab that cell phone!"    

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36 minutes ago, Peter said:

When do you use lethal force?

Hmmm..

I wonder what the statistics are for securely handcuffed persons (handcuffed behind their back) actually being successful at attacking and injuring their captor(s) ...  I don't doubt that a forceful effort at some kind of head-butt is often tried.

I wonder about how often that kind of thing actually succeeds... and hence what the risk actually is to the captor(s), once the person is securely handcuffed behind the back. 

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14 minutes ago, Strictlylogical said:

and hence what the risk actually is to the captor(s), once the person is securely handcuffed behind the back. 

That got me thinking about 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," and knock out shots and straight jackets.

Edit. And Star Trek stun guns.  

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Scott Adams mentioned that George Floyd had fentanyl in his system according to an autopsy report. And, apparently, the cops holding George Floyd were discussing how best to keep him alive while also not running the risk of him immediately flipping out. The guy who leaned on his neck for 9 minutes is now coming off as more incompetent than malicious.

Here's the discussion if you want to see it.

 Michael

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25 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

The window of putting pressure on someone’s carotid artery until they pass out until they actually die is pretty small..

PS: someone on fentanyl isn’t exactly a threat.

PCP on a he other hand...

Handcuffs should have been sufficient...


 leg restraints could also have been used?

 

 

It's 2020 we should be able to design and manufacture more effective (and safe) restraint systems...

rather than train our officer(s) with dangerous techniques (concentrating on the neck) which can easily go horribly wrong with permanent consequences.

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One of the sad parts is it seems he was being originally detained for trying to pass fraudulent currency , either counterfeit bills or a bad check.

The Eric Garner case had its origins in selling contraband cigarettes to the public.

In 2020 is developing a safer restraint system a better way for the citizenry to feel better protected by police? ThatI sounds a little Robocop/Judge Dredd creepy.

Not that petty crime should go unpunished and resisting arrest changes the situation immediately, but citations and court appearance should be the preferred remedy.

In 2008 you could knowingly crash the US and world’s economy and not expect to have knee on your neck , but it seems during a pandemic falsely passing counterfeit money is detainable.

edit to add that neither one of those arrest incidents was the ‘cause’ of the civil unrest , just a spark needed to start another try at energizing the rabble that has been being groomed for a long time

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8 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

Soooo..if a black man is hanging by a rope what do the cops now charge him with? Loitering?

Or if a cop runs over a black man and he gets away is he later charged with hit and run?

 

one. Your examples are not up to par / moronic., Bwana.  Was the "darkie" wanted for a crime?

two. Was the "black man" running away from a breaking, entering, or looting a Target Store, and got run over by the cops as he fled . . . . ?

Yes I have some sympathy for a person who is "overly" punished for his crimes. But he did commit those crimes. If you disparage the police, who ya gunna call? 

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The riots and the violence, the torching of stores, the hatred shown? That is not protesting. It is criminal acts for violence sake or thievery . . . with a lame excuse.

What if they come after you for some misguided or moronic reason? If you are a citizen of a free nation, you do not accept violence against yourself or your family because, gee sumtin bad happened so they must take it out on me and mine.       

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In talking about President Trump's walk to the church and posing with the Bible, I mentioned above how this was the best way to nip a story war narrative in the bud.

On 6/2/2020 at 1:03 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

You take away the rioter's story-thunder.

On a large social canvas, people are always more afraid of the story than they are of the reality.

So you stomp the story-thunder into nothingness by giving people a different story, backed up by reality, showing that such thunder is irrelevant to the big picture.

And you start with the leader showing how this is done.

That's how those complicit in the story thunder, like the Democratic Governors and Mayors, end up looking like candy-asses.

Well, the fake news mainstream media was not happy. So they made up a narrative about what happened before that walk to try to keep their fake story momentum going.

They basically said that President Trump's jackboots tear gassed peaceful protesters in Lafayette Park and sprayed them with rubber bullets just so he could walk from the Rose Garden to St. John’s Episcopal Church to do a meaningless photo-op.

That was too much for Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist.

Rather than speak out against the narrative and leave it at that, this time she compared the narrative to the actual facts, showed where it was false, then went on for an entire article naming names and giving links to their own fake news reports. And there are oodles of 'em, all within a day or so.

Media Falsely Claimed Violent Riots Were Peaceful And That Tear Gas Was Used Against Rioters

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Following days of violent riots and looting in cities across the country, Washington, D.C., announced a 7 p.m. curfew on Monday night. About the same time, President Donald Trump addressed the nation from the Rose Garden. Afterward, he walked through Lafayette Park to St. John’s Episcopal Church, which rioters had set on fire the night before. Standing before the church sign, which reads “All are welcome,” President Trump, who previously said he’d be paying his respects to a very special place, held up a Bible.

The speech announcing the country would return to rule of law and protection of civil liberties, the walk through a park that the night before had been given over to rioters, and the visit to the vandalized historic church where every president has worshiped since James Madison, were reassuring to many in the country.

For the media, however, these actions were further proof that Orange Man Bad is literally the worst, restoring rule of law is criminal, and standing in front of a church holding a Bible is an assault on the American conscience. They focused on how the Park Police had cleared the area ahead of the city-wide curfew declared by D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser.

Facts were no barrier to their narrative. They spun a tale of violent, jack-booted cops running rampant through the streets over innocent docile protesters, using tear gas to clear the area. It turns out none of that was true.

Every single major media outlet falsely reported that Park Police were unprovoked when they used “tear gas” to clear the area. If any of that were true, it might mark the first time in history that cops without gas masks launched tear gas in an area that the president of the United States easily walked through minutes later.

After thousands of false tweets, print stories, and broadcast stories to the contrary...

And off she went giving proof of what happened and one example after another of a mainstream journalist lying through his or her teeth--all in lockstep.

Granted, the lie circles the world twice before the truth can get its pants on, but this time, I feel something different is happening. I have a feeling this article has teeth in it that will not get buried as usual. I can't prove it, but I bet it's going to be discussed in many offices and homes, including the offices and homes of many people in the fake news media who are getting sick and tired of being cogs in an authoritarian propaganda putsch.

President Trump tweeted Mollie's article a few times, too. Here is just one of the tweets.

So this article is going to get spread no matter how much the bad guys want to bury it.

What's more, rather than the mainstream news belittling President Trump and getting this event off the story war field of battle, Mollie's now-widespread exposure of the mainstream fake news collusion to change the story into an outright lie will help transform President Trump's walk and Bible gesture into the stuff of legend.

This legend will not be told in the mainstream news. It will be told in churches, at the dinner table, in the audiences at sports events, at stores, in gyms, and so on.

Many many people already can't stand the mainstream press. Incredibly, I think the fake news media made their reputation a few notches worse than it was with this orchestrated fake news attack.

November is coming and it's coming with a tidal wave of disinfectant.

The fake news media is the enemy of the people. Those in the middle who don't believe this are now learning it in a way they can no longer rationalize or ignore. What's more, they are starting to come to this conclusion on their own. And it's pissing them all off.

Meanwhile, there is this legend of a larger-than-life warrior named Trump who walks into the mouth of the dragon and slays it. This legend makes people feel reassured that their world might be troubled a bit right now, but it is fundamentally safe and sound for day-to-day living and pursuing their dreams.

Think of a movie trailer narrater's low husky menacing voice:

Out of the chaos...
of a troubled world...
burned to the ground by hoards of angry mobs and left to smolder...
out of the echo of countless cries of despair left behind...
there arose...
one man...

🙂

That feeling is taking root in the hearts and souls of many, many people who were on the fence until now. I doubt simple propaganda by repetition, mockery, snark and gotchas will change their minds back to the fence in time for November. On the contrary, the legend is growing.

Thank you mainstream fake news media.

You did that.

🙂 

Michael

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Again. An action by one man is made to be representative of all (of his profession and race). The unfortunate death of another is 'a symbol' for all others (of that race).

That's the narrative which is sweeping the world. The media are gleefully playing it for all it's worth of course, and I'm heartily sick of them. Narrative: America is racist. The Big Lie. That this incident is an outlier among the great mix of ethnicities in the US, who clearly have and do get along fine all the rest of the time - or simply go their own way, live and let live - that's an inconvenient fact, to be discounted. I and others know the US is not racist, but its problem is "racialism". Looking for and finding pretend racist motives anywhere one can. That is from the Left and its victimhood mentality, now callously stirring up the so-called 'unequal' and under-privileged for political gain. They are loathsome beyond words.

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