Coronavirus

[Peter]

The name Fauci sounded foreign and he looked vaguely Arabic to me. However, he is of Italian descent. I may have changed my post but I do not remember doing it. 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This post is a bit long, but I believe it will be worth reading. It frames what happened and what is coming well re the pandemic. 

To start, here is something from National Review, of all places. Steve Bannon has been having a field day with this, too.

The Fall of Saint Anthony Fauci

This article is almost as much an indictment against the scientific community for tailoring their research to the government money masters as it is to Fauci's constantly weird behavior. A few quotes:

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In mid March of 2020, most Americans, including those in the White House, were still trying to understand the COVID-19 crisis unfolding around them. In a span of 24 hours, the NBA came to a sudden halt when players tested positive for the virus; seemingly minutes later, the American actor Tom Hanks announced from Australia that he and his wife, Rita Wilson, had this mysterious new illness; stock markets crashed around the world; President Donald Trump declared a pause on travel from Europe; and the World Health Organization, belatedly, labeled the spread of the coronavirus a pandemic. On March 16, the Trump White House called for 15 days to slow the spread of the virus — a lockdown.

The White House coronavirus task force was meeting regularly and issuing daily briefings at that time. In the Situation Room, economic advisers began presenting their models and predictions for the economic effects of lockdown to the task force, including its leader, Vice President Mike Pence, and the president. What the advisers reported was shocking. Just four weeks of lockdown would lead to millions of Americans unemployed, extreme burdens on the public purse, and the greatest one-month contraction of the American economy since the Great Depression. A health adviser present said that, as the lights came up following the presentation, the faces of most of the advisers in the room were ashen. The gravity of what had just been said — all of which shortly came to pass — seemed to have stunned everyone into silence.

Except one man. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), immediately turned to Vice President Pence and asked a question that appeared to dismiss not only the imminent miseries of lockdown but the relevance of the entire subject from the proceedings: “I’m still in charge, right?”

More or less, yes, Fauci was still in charge. And he still is.

. . .

Fauci first achieved something like a public profile during the AIDS crisis, becoming a hated figure among progressive gay activists who viewed him as an antagonist for his slowness and unwillingness to approve therapeutic drugs.

. . .

Some of the themes Strub delineates in Fauci’s conduct during the AIDS crisis seem to have been repeated in COVID: the prioritization of a vaccine over therapeutic treatments, a refusal to take bold action in the face of a crisis, and a bureaucrat’s comfort with a slow process of updating guidance, even as people languish or die.

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Fauci is an unusually hardy and long-lived survivor in Washington. But the people who look up to him as merely “America’s doctor” or a mere public-health adviser may not quite understand the power wielded by the National Institutes of Health and his agency within it. NIH dispenses up to $32 billion a year for biological and medical research, much of the funding in the form of long-term grants that are not just necessary for worthwhile scientific research but desperately needed for researchers’ academic job security. In the United States, biologists and other medical researchers whose grant proposals are approved are usually expected by their universities to cover their own costs, including salary for research teams. The NIH — its decisions about who gets funding and for what — is why, say, worm researchers end up studying worm aging rather than worm evolution.

Now, Anthony Fauci is highly unlikely to be directly involved in most NIH grants. But long and various chains of professional interest will come together under a cloud that rains down $32 billion a year. And this cloud may help us to understand strange fact patterns. Here’s one fact: After Trump promoted the idea, Fauci repeatedly rubbished the use of the common, cheap-to-produce drug hydroxychloroquine as a therapeutic or prophylactic for COVID-19. A second fact: Studies conducted in North America of hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating COVID are 3.4 times more likely to report negative results than studies of the same conducted anywhere else in the world. There is no obvious causal connection. But would you want your lab’s name in the hot glaring sun embarrassing America’s doctor? Or would you want it under that fat federal cloud that rains buckets of money on you and your peers?

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When confronted by hostile questions about his changing statements, Fauci says — like any good scientist — that he is just responding to new data as they come in. “I haven’t been wrong, period,” he has insisted. But when talking to friendly media, he admits he tries to manipulate the public with lies rather than level with them.

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Others involved in the task force remarked on Fauci’s ability to outleak the leakiest White House in living memory. Those who disagreed with Fauci even in private would find themselves the subject of unflattering coverage almost immediately in the Washington Post.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci had been personally involved in lobbying to exempt gain-of-function research into coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology from funding restrictions. Gain-of-function research takes viruses from animals in the wild to see which of them can be made more infective in humans in the lab...

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“My theory is that Anthony Fauci is a sociopath,” says Navarro. “He knew full well that virus came from the lab. He knew full well that he was the one who reauthorized gain-of-function. And day after day, for nine months leading up to the election, he did not level with the American people.”

Is Navarro angry over how Fauci was lauded? You bet. It wouldn’t be the first time that an outlandish and demonized theory about COVID-19 turned out to be the likeliest story. But in any event, America no longer needs a saint of the Science. The Resistance turned on and discarded every previous hero, whether it was Michael Cohen, Michael Avenatti, or even Robert Mueller. Dr. Fauci broke his own rule. He got political, and now he’s about to get into trouble.

 

Now, here is just one salvo from Steve Bannon's warpath. He doesn't mention the article above in this clip, but he does during the rest of the show.

Bannon Hits Fauci, Media, CCP: 'This Blood Will Not Wash Off Your Hands'

Steve's contention is that COVID-19 was developed as a weapon, not as a way to preempt accidents.

What's more, Fauci went ahead using government funds on weaponry research (gain of function) despite a prohibition previously put on the books by the Obama administration.

All of this is being proven by an Australian reporter, Sharri Markson, who is coming out with a book published by HarperCollins at the end of September: What Really Happened In Wuhan: The cover-ups, the conspiracies and the classified research.

 

Steve interviews her on video in The Last Refuge article below. She busted Fauci big-time by showing, on record, where he said that the gain of function research was well worth the risk of a pandemic. He actually said that.

Investigative Journalist and Author Sharri Markson Reveals How Dr. Fauci Restarted Gain of Function Research After Obama Administration Stopped it

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Perhaps the last half of this interview explains why the mainstream media are now willing to let Anthony Fauci take the heat for the Wuhan Bio-Lab leak.  The entire interview with Australian investigative journalist Sharri Markson is well worth watching.  The first major point was how Anthony Fauci was arguing against scientific consensus to keep allowing “gain of function” biological experimentation with deadly viruses.  Fauci advocated for weaponization research in 2012, the scientific community was against it because of the inherent risks.

The second major point was President Obama stopping gain of function research in 2014 due to the global risk of a leak from a lab.  Then in 2017, in the first year of the Trump administration, unbeknownst to senior officials in the administration, NIH Director Anthony Fauci pushed through a restart of the dangerous research.

Obama stopping and Fauci unilaterally starting would explain why the media are willing to step aside and let Fauci take the fall.  Defending and protecting President Obama are the primary objectives of the MSM and operatives embedded in the administrative state.  Now the sudden shift makes sense.  Those in the umbrella intelligence apparatus knew this type of investigative evidence was going to surface.

 

Let's simplify, shall we? (The Obama part below is my speculation, but I am sure I am not alone.)

Obama was interested in making a bioweapon, but he couldn't do it in the USA. So he set it up with China and they could take the fall if anything went wrong. But, on second thought, if something did go wrong, and, man, the more they looked at it, the more dangerous and instable this virus thing looked, that would blow back on him big-time. After a few years, he chickened out.

When President Trump came into office, right when the Deep State was sabotaging Trump up a storm, Obama encouraged Fauci to ram the bioweapon funding for Wuhan through the system under Trump without telling anyone, which he did. Fauci wanted to anyway and now he had Deep State cover.

Trump was tanking the Chinese economy by drying up all the crony cheating and giveaways, so the Chinese looked, saw there was a bioweapon handy that could make enough chaos they could get get back to stealing, and they used it. Notice that their infected citizens traveled all over the world from Wuhan, but nowhere in China.

The Big Bust is now coming with Markson's book among other things. Rand Paul helped get the ball rolling by getting Fauci to lie before Congress. Yep. The bust is coming in a form that can no longer be hidden or dismissed.

Oopsie-woopsie. Time to scamper for plausible deniability. The mainstream media now has to save its own ass since it helped the Deep State and China and all those people died everywhere the world over, not to mention all that money lost by everybody during lockdowns and so on. What to do? What to do? Go after Obama or go after Fauci?

Obviously, Fauci. He will take the fall. He deserves to fall anyway, so that makes it a no-brainer.

The National Review, with all those Deep State anti-Trumpers over there who helped sabotage Trump, has to cover its own ass, too. So it is one of the media outlets taking on the task to trash Fauci.

And, like always, after causing a shitload of destruction, Obama skates...

Michael

[Peter]

Thanks for that great post, Michael. 

Washington — Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said Sunday the "side of the ledger" that suggests COVID-19 could have emerged from a lab in Wuhan, China, has continued to grow as debate over the virus's origins reignited last week. end quote

[Brant Gaede]

For practical reasons Obama always skates. At least until the historians get him. 

--Brant

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

This sentiment is now being openly expressed and it's growing.

IF COVID WAS LAB CREATED, WE NEED TO DESTROY CHINA

Just to make sure the message is clear, Styxenhammer666 is not leaving any room for ambiguity. 

He's saying that if it becomes proven that this virus was made in a lab in Wuhan, even if it was released by accident, the Chinese government needs to step down and be replaced by a panel of people from other countries (presumably to structure a new Chinese government) on pain of getting nuked into oblivion.

He said the world needs to demand this. He said a highly contagious and mutating toxic bioagent is far more deadly to humankind than nukes ever were.

The worst part of his argument is that it makes perfect sense.

Michael

[Brant Gaede]

7 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

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[Brant Gaede]

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

This sentiment is now being openly expressed and it's growing.

IF COVID WAS LAB CREATED, WE NEED TO DESTROY CHINA

Just to make sure the message is clear, Styxenhammer666 is not leaving any room for ambiguity. 

He's saying that if it becomes proven that this virus was made in a lab in Wuhan, even if it was released by accident, the Chinese government needs to step down and be replaced by a panel of people from other countries (presumably to structure a new Chinese government) on pain of getting nuked into oblivion.

He said the world needs to demand this. He said a highly contagious and mutating toxic bioagent is far more deadly to humankind than nukes ever were.

The worst part of his argument is that it makes perfect sense.

Michael

It makes no sense except for sweeping the problem under the table, if that. And that would be all in the head. Governments don't give a shit regardless. It's much more about the USA than China. We might as well nuke DC.

--Brant

now that I think about it . . .

[Peter]

3 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

We might as well nuke DC.

--Brant

now that I think about it . . .

I doubt / hope there is no chance of China and Russia both nuking US at the same time. Naw. Couldn't happen. In the mean time we should limit and then stop all trade with China and "convince / coerce / wave a big stick" and stop other countries from trading with China too. Dealing with China is not objectivist free trade.   

[william.scherk]

12 hours ago, Peter said:

Washington — Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said Sunday the "side of the ledger" that suggests COVID-19 could have emerged from a lab in Wuhan, China, has continued to grow as debate over the virus's origins reignited last week. end quote

Gottlieb's remarks were reported by CBS News:

Gottlieb says "side of the ledger" suggesting coronavirus came from a lab has grown

A transcript of Gottlieb's appearance on Face The Nation is here:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-scott-gottlieb-face-the-nation-05-30-2021/

Edited May 31, 2021 by william.scherk
S not D

[Peter]

1 hour ago, william.scherk said:

Gottlieb's remarks were reported by CBS News:

I yam what I yam and it ain’t over with the Chinks.  Do I hear rumbles of war or just disgust? Those PatoQ! What are we to do with the Chinese? Signed, The Klingon Popeye.

Notes from Quora. Some people have pointed out that it contains the word taQ, which is Klingon for “be weird”. This has led many to assume that it means something like “weirdo”, “freak”, “deviant” or even “pervert”. 

Gowron called the clone of Kahless “the petaQ who is using [Kahless’] name”. (TNG: Rightful Heir)

Kor called Worf a “traitorous petaQ” when he suspected he was planning to take the Sword of Kahless from him. (DS9: The Sword of Kahless)

Governor Torak insulted Worf by saying “At least I do not wear the uniform of the petaQ!” (TNG: Aquiel)

Some Klingon soldiers called the changeling Laas a petaQ after he made the claim that Klingon blood had a foul stench. (DS9: Chimera)

Worf called a Dopterian a petaQ after said person had broken into his quarters and stolen things. (DS9: Bar Association)

In the mirror universe, Regent Word called Garak “the petaQ who lost Terok Nor to the rebels”. (DS9: Shattered Mirror)

Torres quotes an old Klingon saying: “A doctor that operates on himself has a petaQ for a patient.” (VOY: Tinker Tenor Doctor Spy)

When B’Elanna (a half-Klingon) was split into two people (one Klingon and one Human), the Klingon would call her human counterpart a petaQ several times. (VOY: Faces)

The first few of these examples seem to suggest treachery, or perhaps an enemy. However, the latter examples just seem to use petaQ as a general insult, like douchebag, bastard or jerk. That’s how I usually translate petaQ when a translation is necessary, but it’s important to note that this is merely an approximation based on usage.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

8 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:

now that I think about it . . .

Brant,

That's exactly right.

We had traitors in the USA government in high places during WWII. But we still attacked the countries that attacked us or attacked our treaty partners.

Bad Guy does not equal traitor OR hostile country.

Bad guy DOES equal traitor AND hostile country.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

4 hours ago, Peter said:

Dealing with China is not objectivist free trade.   

Peter,

Now, all we have to do is convince certain prominent Objectivists of that.

It's gonna be hard because of all the money they can make.

They don't see it as making money Jim Taggert style because there is just too much to be made that can go into their own pockets and they can use the term "free trade" on it.

Michael

[Peter]

42 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

But we still attacked the countries that attacked us or attacked our treaty partners.

Other than a couple of Jap spies in Californication, all those Americans of Japanese descent who were interred in camps, were loyal Americans.  

edit from Mr. Seinfeld. Jerry: It’s time to do away with phrases like, “Oh, my goodness,” and “stuffed animals.” They are not stuffed animals! They are dolls!”

[william.scherk]

4 hours ago, Peter said:

5 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Gottlieb's remarks [...]

[...] the Chinks.

Competing theories?

It's difficult to say how some words hit targets; it's hard to say how it feels. Maybe next time we go to Canton Palace I'll experiment.

Loyal or disloyal? Citizens or aliens?

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

2 hours ago, Peter said:

... all those Americans of Japanese descent who were interred in camps, were loyal Americans...

Peter,

Of course they were and the US was wrong to do that.

Did you understand me to say otherwise?

I thought the big issue right now was taking down the government of China--or nuking it--for releasing a deadly bioweapon on the world.

Michael

[Marc]

Welcome home President Trump (even though you never left us)!

God bless America and God bless My President, President Galt, errrrr, President Trump.

[Jules Troy]

Ermmm...you realize China has a crapload of nukes too right?

just sayin..

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

7 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

Ermmm...you realize China has a crapload of nukes too right?

just sayin..

Jules,

That's the way war works. The countries involved have heavy weaponry.

In the specific case of nukes, China will not only be fighting the USA if it ever came to that. And it will be at a sore disadvantage if it had to nuke all the countries that have nukes aimed at it.

The premise is bioweapons are more destructive and dangerous than nukes.

China already embraced bioweapons. The only way to stop China if it continues with bioweapons is nukes.

Do you have any other idea?

I don't think saying, "Pretty please with a cherry on top," will work.

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

Looks like I'm not the only one who sees it.

Michael

[Jules Troy]

See their covid and raise them a smallpox.

covertly inoculate everyone else first?

[tmj]

First strike should be nuking any payment to US sovereign debt held by China/CCP. The financial fallout is most likely more survivable than the other kind. 

[ThatGuy]

"There's something happening here..."

("Stop, hey, what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin' round...")


BREAKING: Fauci Sent Panicked Gain-of-Function E-mails to Staff in Early COVID Days.

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/fauci-sent-panicked-gain-of-function-e-mails-to-staff-in-early-covid-days/

[Jules Troy]

So does the world get to punish China with a war reparations act and hold them financially liable for all economic losses sustained by aggrieved nations from trying to contain this virus?

[ThatGuy]

"As the worm turns..."
 

 

[Peter]

Comrade! HEI HEI! Trade, travel, correspondence, disrespect may be the objective way to go as regards red china, but we will strengthen and bolster Taiwan. Rockin' in the free world . . . . 

Notes. HEI HEI! A way to remember the interpretation of this type of laugh is to look at the right side of the character, which consists of the word黑 (hēi), meaning “black” or “dark”. Now that you know this, you can remember that heihei is a type of cunning or mischievous laugh.  Imagine someone laughing softly as an evil plan is underway.