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2 hours ago, tmj said:

The article /slideshow kept crashing toward the end.

It might be heavy going for an older computer or one with a slow/small memory. The material is also available without the animations at the link in the bolded sentence below

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In the graphics that follow, Scientific American presents detailed explanations, current as of mid-June, into how SARS-CoV-2 sneaks inside human cells, makes copies of itself and bursts out to infiltrate many more cells, widening infection. We show how the immune system would normally attempt to neutralize virus particles and how CoV-2 can block that effort. We explain some of the virus's surprising abilities, such as its capacity to proofread new virus copies as they are being made to prevent mutations that could destroy them. And we show how drugs and vaccines might still be able to overcome the intruders. As virologists learn more, we will update these graphics on our Web site (www.scientificamerican.com).

For a static version of this content as it appears in the July 2020 issue of Scientific American, please click here.

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Did they discuss furin? It’s speculated that this particular virus has seemingly “corrected” encoding that enables cleaving with human furin , which is weird because bat proteins are different.

Do you have some cites to share for furin speculation?

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Regardless the origins of this virus , it seems the biological threat is nothing compared to political/governmental threat to life.(not to mention liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the stuff of life ). Weird , right?

Our commie equivalent in Canadian foundation-documents is "peace, order, and good government." 

Here in British Columbia, we are three weeks into the third of four stages of reopening, with relatively small numbers of 'new' cases recorded, and with daily deaths 'dying out,' at least within our confines. There is still a closed-to-all-but-essentials border with the USA and travel bans with various countries. We aren't at the height of vigilance and public health orders. Kids are now back in the playgrounds, at school, on the streets, with adults at restaurants, beaches, campsites and parks. Ridership on Vancouver transit and 'marine highway' provincial ferries is rebounding from a total crash.

We get 'guidelines' depending on community. No government is mandating masks province-wide or in a particular municipality or region, for example, but at the same time we are expected to obey rules in businesses large and small,  to use our best informed personal judgement otherwise. We still get the same advice as ever to reduce so-called community transmission; plus have an individual plan informed by safety. Some places are very touchy/fearful about 'outsiders' coming into their communities from 'away' -- notably healthy-but-vulnerable places (eg, Haida Gwaii). We are very touchy about people coming into our household, since we have an 83 year old in the comfy chair.

Nothing is 'normal,' not yet.  COVID19 is with us still in BC, albeit at a (comparatively) low level. The province's economic engines are not roaring, especially tourism/travel and the film/media industries.

-- as you mentioned bat proteins, you might be interested in  a brief story from Knowable Magazine:

From the earlier cited Scientific American page, with emphasis added. This might offer a means to understand differences between the novel coronavirus and other similar or related viruses from the larger family ...

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Indeed. I may be skeptical about aspects of the story, but not the story itself.

The single greatest advance in medicine was the germ theory of disease. It's precursor was smallpox vaccination. There is no handling flu with vaccine, just the pretense, but the pretense is a ho

The pandemics in 1957 and then again in 1968 killed roughly 100k Americans each, they were influenza viruses , I don't know of any societal wide reactions that match this one. Did we flatten a curve ?

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33 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

Ellen

Thanks, I understand proofreading.

Now tmj will post a classic tv segment on how a Bill becomes Law.

Billy does not understand proofreading and tends to breathlessly repost fear porn he doesn't understand at all, like that headline that leads 99% of readers to believe "covid" has some super-novel ability that is new to modern science and very scary.

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I just googled around a little bit after hearing Yuri Deigin on Bret Weinstein’s Darkhorse podcast.

The article posted was a very generic overview of viral basics, no discussion about this particular viral infection. Viruses are rather ‘host’ specific , given the number of viruses ones that can ‘jump’ from one species to another and thrive are ‘special’. The circumstances that allow those situations are scientifically interesting, no ? More so than an article on how a virus works?

What did you find so interesting about the Sci Am piece, enough to help guide attention to it ?( I did glean a little , Golgi’s apparatus has seemingly been elevated to a complex, so there was that )

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On 7/3/2020 at 1:17 PM, Jon Letendre said:

Too bad how the Scamdemic brainwashing is no longer working.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/college-students-busted-throwing-covid-19-parties-infect-all-their-friends

These kids understand that if there is any actual bug at all, it is a variant of the common cold.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/11/texas-millennial-dies-after-attending-covid-19-party/

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On 7/3/2020 at 1:17 PM, Jon Letendre said:

These kids understand that if there is any actual bug at all, it is a variant of the common cold.

There's an actual bug, and it's no more "a variant of the common cold" because it's a coronavirus, as are several viruses which produce common cold symptoms, than a horse is a variant of a cow because, like a cow, a horse is an ungulate.

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2 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

There's an actual bug, and it's no more "a variant of the common cold" because it's a coronavirus, as are several viruses which produce common cold symptoms, than a horse is a variant of a cow because, like a cow, a horse is an ungulate.

Ellen

Wrong. Bad cold is a great description.

Fauci and many other doctors compare it to a flu, knowing full well that influenzas are not even coronas, whereas both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas.

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3 hours ago, merjet said:

Worthless fearporn from start to finish. I don't believe a word of it, no one should. They get caught with their full morgue stories, their "perfectly healthy 30 year old" stories, who turn out to anything but, when they "died from" corona.

You really do gobble this bullshit up, don't you?

You believe it could kill anyone because you found a story claiming a 30 year old died by underestimating it.

 

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You guys, I think I'm starting to cry. Look at his last words. He got this sentence out "moments before passing away."

" ‘I think I made a mistake, I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not,' "

That's hard-hitting objective journalism in the age of the Great 2020 Scamdemic.

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5 hours ago, merjet said:

Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? 

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In hospice they dope you up into an insensate condition then deprive you of all fluids and you are murdered in several days through dehydration.

--Brant

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3 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? 

Just what did he die of since the virus is not a disease? 

Notice how they used the plural when talking about one person?

So how many people at the party died?

The cause of death from the virus is supposedly pneumonia. Did he die from that?

--Brant

boy, am I tired of all the un-scientific gobbledygook that these people feed the public and themselves

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18 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas.

False. The rhinovirus is "the predominant cause of the common cold."

15 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Dr. Jane Appleby is chief medical officer for Methodist Hospital and Methodist Children’s Hospital, and her specialties, all her experience from what I can see, is in hospice and palliative care. This is far from a perfect analogy, but is that not like putting a controlled demolition ace in charge of construction projects? Maybe they can do it, but why pass up all the lifelong construction aces? 

Dr. Appleby was the spokesperson. That the man who died was her patient is your leap of faith.

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11 hours ago, merjet said:

False. The rhinovirus is "the predominant cause of the common cold."

Dr. Appleby was the spokesperson. That the man who died was her patient is your leap of faith.

Lots of things can cause what the affected calls "a cold," even influenza viruses. "Unknown" seems to be the second largest cause of colds.

But, fine, rhinoviruses cause more colds than coronas cause.

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Why do you imagine I think she was his doctor? "Spokesperson"?! She is the corporate medical officer of the hospital, so I am aware she was most likely not his doctor.

Brant had no trouble understanding the point. Maybe the difference is he tries to understand?

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17 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Why do you imagine I think she was his doctor? "Spokesperson"?! She is the corporate medical officer of the hospital, so I am aware she was most likely not his doctor.

Brant had no trouble understanding the point. Maybe the difference is he tries to understand?

LOL. If you thought she wasn't his doctor, then your commenting on her specialty makes no sense.

LOL. He didn't read between the lines.  

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20 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Lots of things can cause what the affected calls "a cold," even influenza viruses. "Unknown" seems to be the second largest cause of colds.

But, fine, rhinoviruses cause more colds than coronas cause.

Jon,

I have a cure for the common cold.

Masks.

And shut down everything.

🙂 

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On 7/12/2020 at 1:49 PM, Jon Letendre said:

Wrong. Bad cold is a great description.

Fauci and many other doctors compare it to a flu, knowing full well that influenzas are not even coronas, whereas both "covid" and all common colds ARE coronas.


"Bad cold" is rhetorical slop if you're talking about a severe case.  "Flu" is a reasonable comparison in terms of locale (lower respiratory), symptomatology, and course.  The best comparison for a severe case is to the original SARS, which is why this bug was first called "SARS-CoV-2."
 
You've evidently caught up to the erroneousness of your statement that "all common colds ARE coronas."
 
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50 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

"Bad cold" is rhetorical slop if you're talking about a severe case.  "Flu" is a reasonable comparison in terms of locale (lower respiratory), symptomatology, and course.  The best comparison for a severe case is to the original SARS, which is why this bug was first called "SARS-CoV-2."
 
You've evidently caught up to the erroneousness of your statement that "all common colds ARE coronas."
 
Ellen

I wasn't talking about a severe case. When I once referenced the very rare severe case I said it then killed like the plague.

I have caught up, thanks. Now I know even an influenza virus can cause the common cold and I am even more confident that covid, if it really exists, has caused lots of colds.

In all of this what's-the-best-name and categorizing gotcha technical bullshit is the little problem that some people want to keep our society shut down over a bad cold the elites can't stop lying to us about and that is not working at all for the rest of us.

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