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8 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

And for the general reader, who may be intimidated by Peter's twisting of words and projections: I will not be content to sit back and let liberty die. Or watch my city burn. Or see innocent people be attacked, egged on by our own illegitimate government. Not without at least speaking out.

TG,

I very much doubt that anyone feels intimidated by Peter.

Peter doesn’t pay attention.  It isn’t so much strawmaning as that he really doesn’t register much of whatever a person to whom he’s supposedly responding has said.  He's primarily just using a post to which he "replies" as a springboard for talking about whatever’s in his thoughts.

There were people on the Atlantis lists whom he irritated to no end with his "response" method.  It’s habitual not personal.

Ellen

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3 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

TG,

I very much doubt that anyone feels intimidated by Peter.

Peter doesn’t pay attention.  It isn’t so much strawmaning as that he really doesn’t register much of whatever a person to whom he’s supposedly responding has said.  He's primarily just using a post to which he "replies" as a springboard for talking about whatever’s in his thoughts.

There were people on the Atlantis lists whom he irritated to no end with his "response" method.  It’s habitual not personal.

Ellen

Thanks for the explanation.

For what it's worth, that adds to my resolve to let it go. Whether he does the same is his prerogative, of course. But I will refrain from adding fuel to the fire. 

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12 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

There were people on the Atlantis lists whom he irritated to no end with his "response" method.  It’s habitual not personal.

You are a Saint, Ellen of Assisi. 

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8 hours ago, caroljane said:

I would remind you that Barry Golwayer never led nor spoke for your whole nation to the rest of the world

Goldwater Barium or Ba AuH2O. Are you making a muck about our wonderful President Trump, you heathen? I am taking you off our phone call in list. Signed Doctor Johnny Fever at WKRP Radio in Cincinnati.  

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BLM Minneapolis: ‘I Don’t Want to Say We Need to Start Killing All White Folks… But… Maybe They Need to Feel the Pain and Hurt’ (WATCH)

 

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By Cassandra Fairbanks 
Published April 20, 2021 at 10:25 pm

In a shocking collection of interviews from the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis, far-left extremists admitted to wanting another civil war and implied that white people need to be killed.

Gonzo journalist and filmmaker Ami Horowitz interviewed several people who were attending the memorial to get their take on things like… burning the city down and using violence against white people. Their responses will surprise no one.

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“Burn the whole city down, what does it matter?” one of the women asked. “I say burn the city down, y’know? So they can see that we’re here,” another woman asserted.

One of the women went on to say that Derek Chauvin should not have received a trial at all.

“There shouldn’t even be a trial, he should be convicted just as is,” she said.

The extremists were all in agreement that if he was not convicted they would support “street justice” for him, meaning murder.

One of the women said that she believed that “thousands” of unarmed black men were killed last year in the United States — the number is actually 18.

They all also seemed to agree that there is a “genocide” happening to African Americans — and “anyone who isn’t white.”

When asked about a second Civil War, one young woman said “if that’s what it takes, then we have to do it.”

Another responded, “if that’s what it takes, then I believe so.”

Asked if it will happen, yet another woman said “probably.”

“I don’t want to say we need to start killing all white folks, but it’s like…” one of the militant extremists said.

“But…?” Horowitz asked.

"Maybe they need to feel the pain and the hurt,” she continued.


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22 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

When asked about a second Civil War, one young woman said “if that’s what it takes, then we have to do it.”

I too have seen some indications that the traitorous Left is soooo disappointed that they can’t have some rioting and looting, so they may have a Yahoo in each locale, do something criminal to get arrested so they can resist arrest and then have a riot. . . Ellen knows the drill. If they start assassinating white, black, or Asian people because of their race, I think it will stupidly lead to something like the LA riots (where Barbara Brandon defended store owners.) Biden will have to call out the National Guard, after several states do the same with their State Guards. Good bye, Kamala Biden's chances in 2024 and any decent dialogue with republicans and patriots.

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It’s getting late so forgive my typos and sleepy head. Hypothetically how would the Left split the United States? California, Oregon and Washington State would be one chunk and there are several eastern states that might join a rebellion. However, the idea that a rebellion is justifiable and “doable” needs clarification.  How many true rebellions have occurred in America? Two. The rebellion against the English and the Civil War. A rebellion as occurred before and during our Revolutionary War would need a majority of our citizens to be sympathetic. Constitutionally, States cannot break away from “the whole.” It was tried in the Civil War. Also, each State has internal dissidents to whatever is proposed. So. No big R rebellions? Would that not be just what Antifa and The Proud Boys do which is criminal acts and not a peaceful demonstration?    

 

Edit. Rebellion [rəˈbelyən] NOUN an act of violent or open resistance to an established government or ruler.

Technically that def is true but sorely lacking in thought and thoroughness. A riot in one state is not a rebellion. If you go to Wiki for a list of rebellions, only two did not occur JUST in one state or a region of one state. Therefore the “Capital Riot” was not a rebellion though it was an act of insurrection. Shay’s Rebellion was in Massachusetts and was about paper money and was not a rebellion.  

And so to bed . . . .

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4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Even the Chauvin verdict will be overturned on appeal.

This sounds about right.

There was a time when I would have said it's 100% right, but I've lost trust in SCOTUS.

They are cowards.

Still, this would be a doozy to skate.

For now, I believe once the back is broken of the Deep State, SCOTUS will fall in line.

Michael

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11 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

Will there be unrest in Portland, "no matter the outcome"? I'm just sharing the claim, I don't know if it will happen or not. I believe it's possible, based on past "promises kept", and incidents tonight elsewhere, already. Still, in the interest of "fair" reporting: Snopes is contesting the authencity of it, while still giving it a "mixed" rating (which is being contested, in turn, by Ngo):
 



https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/portland-mayor-state-of-emergency/

Thanks for the update, and for introducing me to snopes. Just because someone is a Canadian you can't always assume he is telling truth. 

I am happy too that beyond the broken windows and attempted assaults on buildings of previous nights,nothing more serious has yet been reported in Portland, at least by Mr. Ngo, whom I will henceforth think of as Mr. NonGovernmental.

Maybe the Antifactivists  have broken their oath, that is promise this time.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Peter said:

You are a Saint, Ellen of Assisi. 

It's Poor Clare Ellen of Assisi,   Which makes Michael St Francis.I think of him more as aSebastian myself, but....

what with Pearly Gaetz and you being called the Rock, better leave more sacred ground untrod.

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10 hours ago, Peter said:

Goldwater Barium or Ba AuH2O. Are you making a muck about our wonderful President Trump, you heathen? I am taking you off our phone call in list. Signed Doctor Johnny Fever at WKRP Radio in Cincinnati.  

Get out of my office! -LN

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2 hours ago, caroljane said:

Get out of my office! -LN

Your office? Oh, come on, Carol. It's just a large paper box that fell off a truck and landed under this bridge.

Social Worker on top of the bridge: Hello! Is Carol down there?

Yeah she is. But she won't get out of her box house. What's wrong?

Social Worker: This is just a wellness visit. And I have some new meds she might want to try.  

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11 hours ago, Peter said:

...the “Capital Riot” was not a rebellion though it was an act of insurrection.

The January 6 incursion into the Capitol building wasn’t "an act of insurrection," and I wouldn’t even call the actions of the infiltrators who did such damage as was done a "riot."  Planned theatrics.

The incursion was:   

1.  a trap for the genuine Trump supporters who entered the building with the permission of the guards;   

2.  a ploy to derail consideration of objections to electoral slates;

3.  a set-up for Pelosi to bring impeachment charges against Trump.

Ellen

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11 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

There was a time when I would have said it's 100% right, but I've lost trust in SCOTUS.

Fox is also reporting that Maxine Waters AND President Biden’s loose lips will aid in calling for a retrial and possibly the case may go to the Supremes. I have never seen the stoic Derek Chauvin look emotional about anything but what will his prison life be like?    

MINNEAPOLIS – Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin spent his first night in prison since his conviction for murdering George Floyd segregated from the other inmates, a Minnesota Department of Corrections spokeswoman said Wednesday. Chauvin, found guilty Tuesday in connection with Floyd's death on May 25, is being housed under "administrative segregation" status for the fired Minneapolis police officer's own safety while being held at the Oak Park Heights Prison until sentencing in June, said agency spokeswoman Sarah Fitzgerald.

 He is residing in the Administrative Control Unit, "the state's most secure unit," Fitzgerald said. "Administrative segregation is used when someone's presence in the general population is a safety concern," she added. Jurors in Hennepin County District Court found the 45-year-old Chauvin guilty on all counts — second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

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17 minutes ago, Peter said:

Your office? Oh, come on, Carol. It's just a large paper box that fell off a truck and landed under this bridge.

Social Worker on top of the bridge: Hello! Is Carol down there?

Yeah she is. But she won't get out of her box house. What's wrong?

Social Worker: This is just a wellness visit. And I have some new meds she might want to try.  

Who are you talking to?  My name is Nessman and I am perfectly well, you must be looking for Dr Fever. Try the golf course, or the church. He might not be interested in anymore meds, though.

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Ellen wrote: The incursion was: 1.  a trap for the genuine Trump supporters who entered the building with the permission of the guards; 2.  a ploy to derail consideration of objections to electoral slates; 3.  a set-up for Pelosi to bring impeachment charges against Trump. end quote

Questions? That definitely sounds plausible. But who thought the plot up? Was it someone there at the Capitol or one or more people directing events? There was time to plot because they knew when the President would speak, but it also could have been a spur of the moment scheme. Pelosi and left wing scum like Maxine Waters have the gumption and hate to have planned this but I think Waters can’t keep a secret.

How were the communications transmitted? I will once more bring up the Rush Limbaugh shows where he played recordings of what prominent left wingers said on any particular day. Their pronouncements clearly showed they were getting their talking points from one source. They then parroted the same sources tone of voice and content. Rush thought they called the same number or went to the same web site to get their instructions.     

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13 minutes ago, caroljane said:

Who are you talking to?  My name is Nessman

Do you mean Neuman? "Oh Yes! Mark My Words, Seinfeld! Your Day Of Reckoning Is Coming." "When You Control The Mail, You Control... Information."

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6 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

 

6 minutes ago, Peter said:

Do you mean Neuman? "Oh Yes! Mark My Words, Seinfeld! Your Day Of Reckoning Is Coming." "When You Control The Mail, You Control... Information."

Les Nessman of WKRP.  I'm not a  Seinfeld expert.

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3 hours ago, caroljane said:

... for introducing me to snopes.

Carol,

Snopes is garbage just like the other fact-checkers in the mainstream.

They keep getting busted, just like Andy Ngo busted Snopes in TG's post.

Do you know why they are garbage? They are owned by the same people who own the mainstream media.

They exist to support the oligarchy's political agenda, not check facts.

Well, they do some correct fact-checking (about things like Big Foot) in order to keep the illusion going. But on the important political stuff, they simply fudge and, when needed, make shit up.

Michael

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3 hours ago, Ellen Stuttle said:
15 hours ago, Peter said:

...the “Capital Riot” was not a rebellion though it was an act of insurrection.

The January 6 incursion into the Capitol building wasn’t "an act of insurrection," and I wouldn’t even call the actions of the infiltrators who did such damage as was done a "riot."  Planned theatrics.

Does this sketch of a theory account for all the evidence? The arrests and indictments are so far not showing support for "planned theatrics," if "planned theatrics" means something like planned by unspecified someone/s antithetical to Trump.

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The incursion was:   

1.  a trap for the genuine Trump supporters who entered the building with the permission of the guards;   

2.  a ploy to derail consideration of objections to electoral slates;

3.  a set-up for Pelosi to bring impeachment charges against Trump.

Is there no room on the form for a Null Hypothesis? Might we find some fourth to ninth sketches of implausible/conceivable/probable accountings? 

"And on the seventh day He rested from all His works"

I think a sold narrative or explanatory sketch should account for the arrests and charges, in detail.

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The NYT does a story on the reliability of Snopes, asks them if they are reliable they say "yep". Snopes checks the facts on their reliability and sure enough there is a story in NYT that backs them up :)

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Peter, what is wrong with  working under a bridge ?are you just a housing snob or trying to smear the entire subpontum community as trolls? Just because a person chooses not to waste their money on umbrellas does not mean they need mind altering substances.

we are consulting an anti defamation specialist who could sue you in two countries from his offices on45 south International.

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42 minutes ago, caroljane said:

Peter, what is wrong with  working under a bridge ?are you just a housing snob or trying to smear the entire subpontum community as trolls? Just because a person chooses not to waste their money on umbrellas does not mean they need mind altering substances.

we are consulting an anti defamation specialist who could sue you in two countries from his offices on45 south International.

It's worse than you think, by looking at your picture help was sent to the poor white lady under the bridge. His unconscious bias is endemic of a systematically racist society, if you were a POC , you'd have been shoot.

It's doubly worse, you are blind to his obvious racism.

Kettle and pot sitting in a tree...

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