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23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
On 12/16/2021 at 1:11 PM, william.scherk said:
On 12/16/2021 at 7:40 AM, Marc said:
On 12/16/2021 at 7:36 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

[T]he people behind Biden want to get rid of Kamala Harris in a similar manner Spiro Agnew was disposed of. The reason is they are terrified of running her for an election campaign.

But they want to do it in a way where Hillary Clinton takes her place.

Then they want to dispose of Biden and let Clinton become prez.

All before the next presidential election.

I don't see how that can happen, though, since Pelosi would go into the VP slot, or if they delay too much, a Republican House Leader.

Michael

You mean they would respect the Constitution when it comes to replacing the VP? 

Knowing who "the people behind Biden" are would go a long way to helping verify the "word," if word is. 

Finally I agree with you.

These bastards hide and do their covert crap and they have tons of money to make sure they do.

Right. The worst thing about these bastards is they have no names. How can we lock them up if we don't have their names?

I guess that we won't be reading a defense of "the word" about Agnewizing Kamala Harris here.

Word!

23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

(Do you ever wonder why tax havens are on islands that don't have a chance in hell of defending themselves against an attack by a military, even a half-assed one, yet they never get invaded?)

If what you want in a tax haven is a chance to pay close to zero taxes on your enterprise, I found a list. Most of them may be islands (The UK, Bermuda, Singapore, Ireland, Hong Kong, the Caymans and British Virgin Islands, though not Switzerland), while at the same time they are all under the Western military umbrella -- or are effectively protected by an alliance or control by one of the remaining large powers. Who would go to war over Switzerland, and for what end?

Anything here defending "the word" above? No.

23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Sunlight would be wonderful. Expose these fuckers.

There are people, at least on the alt side, working on getting their names out there.

Of course, on the predator class media side, these so-called professionals are all toadies and sellouts and do what they are told by their masters, so do not expect any information from there. On the contrary, expect outright denials and lies.

This seems like vague demonology.  I'd settle for a funny confection of how Harris could be Agnewized.

23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

There's a reason it's called the fake news media.

But, yeah. Let's expose the bad guys.

Until that happens, gossip is our friend.

And I, for one, will never stop gossiping about the predator class.

I even remember a ways back when some posters were saying pedophilia in the upper class was more widespread than most people think, and that prompted you, yourself, you William, to almost have a cow about it.

Do you remember defending me against Jon Letendre's "pedophile" smears? 

No.

On the other hand, what does this have to do with the Plot to Get Kamala Out? I played along with that notion, won't you?  Isn't there an amusing, plausible, inside-knowledge kind of scenario to invent? 

23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Imagine that! Only loons think that. Conspiracy theory. Where is your proof? Silly people. Stupid people. Urp...

Then the Jeffrey Epstein thing happened.

Oh, and then another thing happened. Josh Duggar was found guilty of the worst of the worst child pornography charges. And then another thing happened. His dad lost an election in Arkansas, gaining 455 votes, all from his family presumably. Why Jim Bob thought his family management fails would lead to him gaining more power over other human beings ...

Is this pertinent to Agnewizing? No.

23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Once again, when dealing with the predator class, gossip is our friend.

Michael

Who has written the best book or article on "the Predator Class," does anyone know? Is it a placeholder for other vague but menacing generalities? 

Anyway, back to truncquoting from here on in ...

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12 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Right. The worst thing about these bastards is they have no names.

William,

You didn't understand. I agreed with you. They do have names and I think their names should be made public.

:evil: 

In today's atmosphere, that is very difficult, though. Even when you show, say, a laptop full of names and even perversions from the son of the bogus president, the system blocks the news, law enforcement gums it up, and even courts won't look at it.

All those names, too...

Now when the lady who served the major supplier of pedophilia to the predator class is on trial, here comes a psychologist saying her accusers are suffering from implanted memories.

I betcha the names will start being called implanted memories when they start coming out, whatcha think?

:evil: 

But don't worry.

Many of their names will come out once power changes hands and they get taken down. Just like Epstein's name came out with all that crap attached to it at the time and he went to jail. 

So that form of no-name gotcha will no longer have a point. In fact, to my mind, it doesn't have much of a point right now. Cheaters cheat. And they hide their cheating and set up fall guys.

Kinda obvious...

Michael

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57 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Do you remember defending me against Jon Letendre's "pedophile" smears? 

No.

William,

I'd have to look it up, but I recall I did. Not enthusiastically, but I did.

Frankly, I thought the issue was silly. Like a kindergarten fight. Hyperbole. I doubt a single person became convinced you like sex with kids because of anything he said. And I know for a fact many people thought something was off with him.

Also, show-wise, the contrast between you and him was delicious. We had the Bulldozer of Abominable Blunt against the Poison Pill Prevaricator.

It was like professional wrestling.

:)

 

But getting away from words and going to deeds, he is no longer here. And we--you and I--are talking right here.

What does that tell you about defending?

Let me put it in words because, from our history, I'm pretty sure you have difficulty looking at and understanding the meaning of deeds on their own.

His behavior is not welcome here. Despite any insinuations our verbal dueling may convey, yours is.

One day you might want to ask yourself why. But I guarantee that you will not find the answer in a gotcha.

Now back to gossiping about those fuckers, the human cankers, the predator class. 

:evil: 

Michael

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"Who has written the best book or article on "the Predator Class," does anyone know?"

 

58 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

This is one of the top ones.

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

See also Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical by Chris Matthew Sciabarra, especially, but not limited to, Chapter 12: "The Predatory State".

Here are specific mentions of "the predatory state" via a Kindle search:
 

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On Level 3, Rand reviewed exploitative social relations within the structural context of statist interventionism.5 The relations of power at this level are mediated through a variety of economic and political structures and institutional processes. Rand examined the essential role of the predatory state in creating conditions of economic dislocation, class (or intergroup) struggle, social fragmentation, and brutality.

The sustenance of the predatory state (Level 3) requires individuals whose autonomy has been fundamentally thwarted (Level 1) and whose conceptual and linguistic practices have been distorted (Level 2).

 

 

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This emphasis on communicative truthfulness, self-awareness, and “de-repression” is as crucial to the Randian project as it is to Habermasian discourse theory. Rand grasped that many of the distortions in communicative interaction can be traced to a systematic attack on the integrity of concepts and language launched by intellectuals who consciously or tacitly serve the modern predatory state. Rand argued that such intellectuals have confounded social discourse by “the destruction of language—and, therefore, of thought and, therefore, of communication—by means of anti-concepts.”37

 

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"The epistemological method of the modern statist focuses on “single, concrete, out-of-context, range-of-the-moment issues,” militating against any consideration of basic principles or long-term consequences. The purpose of this anti-integrative, “verbal fog” is to obscure the predatory nature of state power.91 The ultimate product of American education was the “archetypical “archetypical citizen of a mixed economy: the docile, pliable, moderate Milquetoast who never gets excited, never makes trouble, never cares too much, adjusts to anything and upholds nothing.”92

 

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Her dialectical sensibility helped her to project an all-encompassing, multilevel, non-Marxist, radical resolution. But Rand’s task was not complete. In challenging the implicit, antirational premises at work in modern culture, Rand mounted a simultaneous assault on the explicit antirational economic, social, and political structures and policies of the modern predatory state.

 

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On Level 3 of her analysis, Rand focused on the relations of power as mediated through statist structures and processes. She emphasized the role of the predatory state in perpetuating social dualism and fragmentation. She recognized that power relations at this level simultaneously incorporate incorporate and depend on the interpersonal and cultural conditions she explored on Levels 1 and 2.

 

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The neofascist ideology saw no distinction between production and predation. It regarded “force as the basic element and ultimate arbiter in all human relationships.” Such a “partnership” created an aristocracy of political pull, which benefited “the worst type of predatory rich, the rich-by-force, the rich-by-political-privilege, the type who has no chance under capitalism, but who is always there to cash in on every collectivist ‘noble experiment.’”15 This aristocracy of pull enabled private groups to wield governmental power, without the responsibility it entailed.16 Dishonesty was “inherent in and created by the system.”17

 

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As the government increases the scope of its interventions, it establishes a bureaucratic system of subsidized consumption for the benefit of proliferating pressure groups and economic interests (161–62). The predatory rich wish to rule, while the victimized poor wish to be ruled.27

 

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But Rand argues that the predatory rich, the pseudo-producers, are the predominant material beneficiaries of the welfare-statist expansion.

 

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The mixed economy is “amoral” because it makes honest and just decision making irrelevant to the legislative process. No legislative decisions can be morally justified when each act of law necessarily sacrifices some groups to others.89 Every group, regardless of the merits of its cause, becomes “a potential threat to everyone,” holding the power, not merely to disagree, but to destroy.90 Each legislative action is a by-product of predatory lobbying in which groups participate in strategic forms of communicative interaction. Social courtesies, parties, favors, threats, bribes, and blackmail consume the process.


 

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Despite the achievements of Greek culture, early Western civilization was dominated by the predatory rule of statist empires and feudal tribalists. The Attilas often aligned themselves with Witch Doctors, who provided their rule with mystical, ideological legitimation.

 

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Businessmen turned to the state to achieve consolidation and expansion. They typically scorned the realm of ideas as idealistic, impractical, and inconsequential. The intellectuals by contrast scorned the realm of production as materialistic and greedy. They provided the ideological rationale rationale for the very predatory practices they often condemned.

 

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One does not engender communal benevolence by forcing people into social relations they seek to avoid. The predatory use of force creates and perpetuates social fragmentation and dualism.


Sciabarra, Chris Matthew. Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical . Penn State University Press. Kindle Edition.


 

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On 12/16/2021 at 5:28 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

William,

Finally I agree with you.

These bastards hide and do their covert crap and they have tons of money to make sure they do.

(Do you ever wonder why tax havens are on islands that don't have a chance in hell of defending themselves against an attack by a military, even a half-assed one, yet they never get invaded?)

Sunlight would be wonderful. Expose these fuckers.

There are people, at least on the alt side, working on getting their names out there.

Of course, on the predator class media side, these so-called professionals are all toadies and sellouts and do what they are told by their masters, so do not expect any information from there. On the contrary, expect outright denials and lies.

There's a reason it's called the fake news media.

But, yeah. Let's expose the bad guys.

Until that happens, gossip is our friend.

And I, for one, will never stop gossiping about the predator class.

I even remember a ways back when some posters were saying pedophilia in the upper class was more widespread than most people think, and that prompted you, yourself, you William, to almost have a cow about it.

Imagine that! Only loons think that. Conspiracy theory. Where is your proof? Silly people. Stupid people. Urp...

Then the Jeffrey Epstein thing happened.

:evil: 

Once again, when dealing with the predator class, gossip is our friend.

Michael

This passage from Sciabarra's Russian Radical, re the "predatory state", jumped out at me in relation to this post's topic of the hidden, secretive nature of the current "predator class"/naming names...it's tangential, but not unrelated (not only to the hidden nature of the predator class, but to the "gotcha!" games MSK talked about in regards to Marxist tactics of verbal obfuscation, "info-dumps", splitting hairs over definitions, etc):

"The epistemological method of the modern statist focuses on 'single, concrete, out-of-context, range-of-the-moment issues,' militating against any consideration of basic principles or long-term consequences. The purpose of this anti-integrative, 'verbal fog' is to obscure the predatory nature of state power. The ultimate product of American education was the 'archetypical citizen of a mixed economy: the docile, pliable, moderate Milquetoast who never gets excited, never makes trouble, never cares too much, adjusts to anything and upholds nothing.'"

Sciabarra, Chris Matthew. Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical . Penn State University Press. Kindle Edition.

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2 hours ago, ThatGuy said:

See also Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical by Chris Matthew Sciabarra, especially, but not limited to, Chapter 12: "The Predatory State".

Here are specific mentions of "the predatory state" via a Kindle search:

I am almost always ready to fall down a Sciabarra hole, with or without Roger Bissell.

I appreciate the quotation work, thank you. One cabin, one oil lamp, one week.

Over at Notablog, while snuffling around for the 'free chapter' button, I found something to share:

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The Rand Transcript Revealed (Part III)

This is the conclusion of a three-part preview to a newly published article coauthored by Pavel Solovyev and me: “The Rand Transcript Revealed” (The Journal of Ayn Rand Studies, December 2021, vol. 21, no. 2, pp. 141-229). Part One informed readers of the publication of this important article, while Part Two situated it in the growing scholarly literature on Rand’s Russian roots.

 

 

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10 hours ago, william.scherk said:

How can we lock them up if we don't have their names?

William,

How about Jake Tapper for just one toady name?

Granted, he's not one of the big guys, but he's a prime toady of theirs. And it was one of his producers (one one so far).

But this shit is going on under his watch and his staff is not huge. So he has to know about it.

You can read more about it here:

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On Wednesday Project Veritas released another shocking investigation on yet another CNN producer fantasizing about sex acts with his fiance’s young daughter. The investigative video reveals a primetime...

And the Rumble video just in case the Twitter thing gets taken down.

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Project Veritas reveals another CNN pedophilia scandal

 

Now wonder the Deep State is going after James O'Keefe. I am going to have to open a CNN pedophilia thread in the "For the Children" section.

The full 12 minute video can be found on the Veritas site here:

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Investigating and exposing corruption in both public and private institutions.

And fantasize this guy does. Man, what a dirty mouth... 

I read somewhere Saleeby has resigned from CNN.

I think that is going to be the least of his worries...

Michael

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I once heard the USA had a President and VP. I can't verify that, but that's what I heard.

Nobody was happy with them but they went through the motions of governing with laws, policies and all the usual things rulers do. People said they were supported by the black community and a rainbow of diversity. But crowds never showed up.

Regardless, the press slobbered all over them. All the time.

And then one day, this happened.

The VP's aide could not shut down the interview with a superstar black radio host despite him asking one of the most obnoxious questions ever put to an American VP.

And the VP defended who was President and who was VP, as if that were something to argue about. It was like the palace flooding.

The VP and others are handling it, but now they have to keep their heads above water. Not just with blacks.

It's raining hard on every group under their diversity umbrella. The downpour is growing each minute of each day and they will fight it by getting meaner and more petty and more irrational. But the storm is upon them. The cold and bitter rain will swell until a tempest envelopes them as their support runs for cover.

And one day...

Poof.

The waters will wash them away. They will be no more.

The best part?

We will all live happily ever after.

:)

Michael

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To add to the Kamala Harris story, lookee here.

Will — or should — Kamala Harris become the Spiro Agnew of 2022?

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We can safely assume a number of Democrats want the party to keep the White House and believe Harris should resign.

This is becoming a trope in the press.

Like I said, it's growing.

But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

:)

Winning...

Michael

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I have to mention this.

When I heard Kamala Harris say: "Come on Charlemagne. It's Joe Biden," something in the deep dark recesses of my subconscious started itching.

Huh?

I've hear this same message before...

Not the words, but in between the words...

A surrender along with a denial in a "let's be reasonable" tone of voice...

Hmmm...

Where?

Where have I heard that?

 

Then it hit me.

Back in 2010, a lady named Christine O'Donnell from Delaware put out a political ad and started it by saying: "I'm not a witch."

:) 

Go on. Look it up or think about it if you remember it.

The same message is there.

:)

(Fun fact. O'Donnell was going for Biden's Senate seat at the time.)

Michael

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On 12/17/2021 at 1:12 PM, william.scherk said:

Anyway, back to truncquoting from here on in ...

Trump had something to say during his time in Houston on the "History" tour with Bill O'Reilly. From the Dallas Morning News:

Here’s what Donald Trump said at his appearance in Houston Saturday night

During his 90-minute appearance Trump said he wished he would have done more to deploy National Guard troops to the Capitol on Jan. 6

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Jan. 6

Trump said he wished he would have done more to have National Guard troops deployed on Jan. 6 to prevent the storming of the U.S. Capitol. He said he had recommended a day before the riot that 10,000 troops be deployed at the Capitol to protect lawmakers, but it didn’t happen. ”I would have insisted they had proper protection,” he said.

[...]

 

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1 hour ago, william.scherk said:

Trump had something to say during his time in Houston on the "History" tour with Bill O'Reilly. From the Dallas Morning News:

Here’s what Donald Trump said at his appearance in Houston Saturday night

During his 90-minute appearance Trump said he wished he would have done more to deploy National Guard troops to the Capitol on Jan. 6

 

When Boddy Fisher made those moves against Spasky and the whole world did not believe it.

Several moves later, Boris conceded the game.

Trump is always playing chess.

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1 hour ago, Marc said:

Trump is always playing chess.

In the case of Israel, I think he saw the layout of the "board" with a broad, cynical eye. Of all the moves he made on the world stage, his decisions leading to the Abraham Accords altered the course of history.  I don't think anyone but him could have pushed the emirates and principalities to agree to start normalizing relations.  None of that is touchable by this administration. Those are his achievements.

His instincts about Netanyahu were right, I also think. In the notable interview with Barak Ravid he said that Netanyahu did not want a settlement with Abbas/the Palestinians. It could be argued that Trump's embassy move alone would not have stopped the process, and it could be argued that the process was doomed due to Israeli electoral reality (with Netanyahu in charge), but Abbas could not go on once the USA recognized the annexation of the Golan Heights. With Netanyahu gone and a new political reality being shaped in Israel, the door to further negotiations may crack ajar during the life of the current government. With annexation of West Bank territories put off by the accords ...

The key to his game is perhaps not loyalty or loyalties (except in public-facing games of honour) at all. Does he have loyalty to a particular Arab regime now that he is out of office? Does he have any non-cynical approval of the Saudi dictatorship or the Moroccan monarchy or Sudan? Does he care about the murder of Kashoggi?  Does he have any loyalty to or adherence to "long-standing policy" vis-a-vis the Middle East? 

I don't quite believe the metaphorical game Trump is playing is chess. Whatever game was played leading to the accords, it worked.

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On 8/13/2021 at 1:54 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

For those who want shorter videos, here are two with David Clements and Steve Bannon.

Mildly bizarre goings on backstage.  Anthrax attack on Joe Oltman, Jovan Pulitzer and a purported "dozen" others who were together at Clay Clark's recent "Reawaken America" tour stop.

Inhalation anthrax can be deadly. Hope these guys are getting medical advice -- and not from each other or their more benighted followers.

 

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Gotta love it...poor Beetlejuice...that came back to bite her in the ass...

Chicago Mayor Lightfoot Begs Biden for Help After Turning Down Trump Offer for Assistance

"Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot gave a speech on crime on Monday where she admitted that Chicago needed the help of the federal government to halt the out-of-control violence plaguing the city.

"This is a big turnaround for Lightfoot. In the summer of 2020, with violence and chaos raging in the streets of Chicago, she arrogantly refused an offer from then-President Donald Trump for federal assistance."

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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot gave a speech on crime on Monday where she admitted that Chicago needs the help of the federal government

 

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36 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

TG,

Hey, I liked that movie.

There's no reason to throw shade on it by comparing it to the forehead creature with bugeyes.

:) 

Man, Lightfoot-wise, Canada has us beat. I'll switch Lightfoots with them any day.

Michael

Hah, I had a feeling someone would take "umbrage" with my Beetlejuice comment; you must have "read my mind"... :)

 

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Gen. Flynn Files Restraining Order Against Nancy Pelosi

"Former White House national security adviser Gen. Michael Flynn has filed a restraining order to block a subpoena from the House Select Committee that is investigating the incident at the U.S. Capitol on January 6.

"He argues in his complaint that the subpoena, which would demand information and testimony from Flynn, was issued without legal authority.

"The filing stated that Flynn had no part in organizing, speaking at, or participating in the rallies, protest,s or incursions that took place on Jan. 6, 2020."

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Dems plan just got thwarted.

 

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WOW... you'd think with an "85 million voter turnout" for Biden, that the Deep State would take a victory lap, but nooo; the TDS is too strong....snatching defeat from the jaws of victory ,paiting themselves as victims, even in victory...and all those anti-"democracy" people, what with their individual rights, and their constitutional republic, ruining all the best-laid plans of mice and bat viruses... could it be that they might have won that Nov 20 battle, but lost the larger war? Let's watch...
 

"Where do we stand, as year 2021 of the common era and year one of the Biden presidency comes to an end?

We’re much better off than we might have been.

We’re not as well off as we might have hoped to be."

The article continues:
"So whatever the limitations, mistakes, and failures that have marked the Biden presidency, we should be grateful—very grateful—that Joe Biden is president and that Donald Trump was not. There is no reason for any ambiguity or ambivalence on that score.

"But honesty also compels us to say that victory, or even reasonable confidence in ultimate victory, in the fundamental cause of saving our democracy, remains far away."

And concludes as if the Left are the victims, in need of rescuing:

"But there is no one today who will step forth to rescue and liberate us from beyond the ocean. It’s not enough if we merely hold on. We have to be the source of our own rescue, the cause of our own liberation. And that work we have only just begun."

read more here:

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Where do we stand, as year 2021 of the common era and year one of the Biden presidency comes to an end? We’re much better off than we...
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On 12/21/2021 at 9:44 PM, ThatGuy said:

Gen. Flynn Files Restraining Order Against Nancy Pelosi

"Former White House national security adviser Gen. Michael Flynn has filed a restraining order to block a subpoena from the House Select Committee that is investigating the incident at the U.S. Capitol on January 6.

Updated Flynn restraining order news.

Judge denies Michael Flynn's request for restraining order against Jan. 6 committee

-- The judge said “there is no basis to conclude that Flynn will face immediate and irreparable harm,” which is needed for the order.

 

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On 12/21/2021 at 12:13 PM, william.scherk said:

Anthrax attack on Joe Oltman, Jovan Pulitzer and a purported "dozen" others who were together at Clay Clark's recent "Reawaken America" tour stop.

Inhalation anthrax can be deadly. Hope these guys are getting medical advice -- and not from each other or their more benighted followers.

A somewhat enticing come-on from Jovan Pulitzer himself (for supporters only at Locals😞

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