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But, Michael, Rand wasn't an angry atheist. I know the kind who are bitter and twisted about Christianity, pointing to all its evident flaws from back then til today, and I think they are largely missing the boat. The supernatural over reality? Dogma above reason? Submitting self-value to a higher deity? Check. But mysticism, anti-mind, and altruism, is the trio that has always been around. It's not limited to the religious (and from Christians came many accomplishments)  NewLeft secularists rate,  in modern times, much more blatantly corrosive in all departments, including sacrifice and power: "Mystics of muscle" are as "mystical" as any. And what do they produce? I like informing those atheists - "For all your contempt, you will miss them when they're gone.(Not that Christians  are going anywhere) Who else can hold together the values of a civilisation.(Not you gumptionless, self-less, mindless weaklings)." Obviously, Christians are under concerted attack from the Left-progressives-socialists who hypocritically and cravenly align themselves with anti-Western Islamists, while turning a blind eye to anti-Christian violence and destruction. More validation of Rand and her "Witch Doctor and Attila" needing each other and combining forces. I believe on principle Christians should be morally supported, not meekly looked on as they are sacrificed to any New World Order.

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6 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

If bashing Christianity were that important to her style, Victor Hugo would not be someone she learned her own style from

Yikes. You realize, I hope, that Hugo's theme in "Notre Dame" was fatality (fate).

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1 hour ago, anthony said:

 I believe on principle Christians should be morally supported

A recent passage from my blog...

Baffles me how anyone can believe the absurdity of immaculate conception and virgin birth, resurrection of a dead man, and immortality bestowed by faith.

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Wolf,

I'm baffled by the big bang.

Lots of people have faith in it, though.

:) 

38 minutes ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

Yikes. You realize, I hope, that Hugo's theme in "Notre Dame" was fatality (fate).

And you do realize that predestination is a predominant theme in many denominations of Christianity...

What all that has to do with literary style, though, is baffling...

:) 

(Something tells me this topic is uncomfortable for you. :) )

Michael

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9 hours ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

A recent passage from my blog...

Baffles me how anyone can believe the absurdity of immaculate conception and virgin birth, resurrection of a dead man, and immortality bestowed by faith.

Right: well after the fact, everything is easy to fault. A little appreciation, Wolf. One way or other, everything we've inherited came via deists, theists or Christianity (Capitalism. Science. Novels ...)

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2 hours ago, anthony said:

Right: well after the fact, everything is easy to fault. A little appreciation, Wolf. One way or other, everything we've inherited came via deists, theists or Christianity (Capitalism. Science. Novels ...)

Well, since I was raised by wolves . . .

--Brant

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12 hours ago, Wolf DeVoon said:

A recent passage from my blog...

Baffles me how anyone can believe the absurdity of immaculate conception and virgin birth, resurrection of a dead man, and immortality bestowed by faith.

Since tens if not hundreds of millions do it baffles me how anyone can believe reason can overcome that.

Part of the answer, of course, is compartmentalization, something Rand never acknowledged or addressed. Her getting down to basics over-simplified the human organism. The reductionism was necessary but once into that binary hole she needed to climb out. Thus in her cosmology ideology triumphed over empiricism. Karl Marx made the same mistake.

--Brant

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