Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 When the Catholic Church gets creepy Just so we don't keep discussing Hollywood and elitist pedophiles (and more mundane ones), we have to include the Catholic Church. There have just been too many cases. About a week ago, there was this (from Reuters): U.S. cardinal steps down amid widening sex abuse scandal This was for a 50 year old case, but the boy was 16 at the time. And other people have come forward, including one minor who claimed he was 11 at the time of the abuse. This side of the Catholic Church is disgusting, but it keeps happening. It's a serious problem that needs fixing, so goddamit, they need to fix it. I'm not a typical Randian because I see great value in certain organized religions throughout history, and that means on up to today, albeit, I am not a member of any organized religion. But this stuff makes it hard. For an overall view, here's a Wikipedia article: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 For several years I have considered the real possibility that "all priests" even some who are married as is done in the Episcopal Church are potential pedophiles and may have eagerly sought the job to have blasphemous access to children. In other words, not only are they monsters, but they are scam artists too. They don't care if they burn in hell because they don't believe in "their god" and hell, any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bob_hayden Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I thought the priesthood was what Catholic societies did with their homosexuals. (Hey, who else would be happy to forgo sex with women?-) I would not have a problem with that except that they preach against homosexuality. But what percentage of priests actually practice child abuse? I think cases get a lot of publicity because people are shocked. And I think priests tend to cover up child abuse because they are already covering up their homosexuality, and the fact the victims are so often boys would tend to blow their cover on that count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Things just got worse for the Catholic Church. BREAKING BOMBSHELL 900 Page Report on Child Sex Abuse in Pennsylvania Catholic Church Released Over 300 Clergy Named in Long Awaited Report https://t.co/df7HawY1qU — An Open Secret (@AnOpenSecret) August 14, 2018 Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bob_hayden Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Meanwhile the pope is planning to visit Ireland -- the first such visit in decades. Much has changed since then, what with the creepy clerics and the referenda on same sex marriage and abortion.There is all manner of silliness appearing to welcome the pope. Though I have enjoyed being a lapsed Catholic for close to 60 years, I do wish the Holy Father had consulted me about these candies. Given the recent history of the Church, I fear too much symbolic meaning may be attached to encouraging millions of young lads to take the pope into their mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 hours ago, bob_hayden said: Though I have enjoyed being a lapsed Catholic for close to 60 years, I do wish the Holy Father had consulted me about these candies. Given the recent history of the Church, I fear too much symbolic meaning may be attached to encouraging millions of young lads to take the pope into their mouths. Only a pervert would make such an association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Jesus would find that exciting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 8:22 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: When the Catholic Church gets creepy Just so we don't keep discussing Hollywood and elitist pedophiles (and more mundane ones), we have to include the Catholic Church. There have just been too many cases. About a week ago, there was this (from Reuters): U.S. cardinal steps down amid widening sex abuse scandal This was for a 50 year old case, but the boy was 16 at the time. And other people have come forward, including one minor who claimed he was 11 at the time of the abuse. This side of the Catholic Church is disgusting, but it keeps happening. It's a serious problem that needs fixing, so goddamit, they need to fix it. I'm not a typical Randian because I see great value in certain organized religions throughout history, and that means on up to today, albeit, I am not a member of any organized religion. But this stuff makes it hard. For an overall view, here's a Wikipedia article: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases Michael When it happens in any church (or anywhere else it is disgusting, The incidence only goes up because of the disastrously wrong ancient decision to impose celibacy upon priests.. Easy fix -- "St Paul, you were wrong"--times have changed. Well.maybe not so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, 9thdoctor said: Only a pervert would make such an association. Agree, though I do not know how perverts make associations. I read a lot of history and the destruction of glass mastepieces of thqa shape seems to have been a favourite pastime of the Puritan army, after they had emptied out the convents. Part of the Reformation. Make of it psychologicaly what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Max said: Jesus would find that exciting: Er, not really --Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thdoctor Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 8:52 PM, caroljane said: Er, not really --Jesus Yeah, Jesus never wore ridiculous headgear like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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