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Toronto Mass Shooting

I just happen to be up and this popped up.

From the Toronto Star:

Woman dead, 13 injured in Danforth shooting rampage

Here is a four second clip of the shooter in action:

This is horrible.

Michael

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That is horrible. The guy is hiding the gun so that he can murder new victims. I get it that someone can hate an individual and shoot them dead, but killing innocent unknowns is beyond comprehension. I know the libertarian movement has been against mental incarceration since the book "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," but it is time for a reassessment of that policy. 

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8 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Toronto Mass Shooting

I just happen to be up and this popped up.

From the Toronto Star:

Woman dead, 13 injured in Danforth shooting rampage

Here is a four second clip of the shooter in action:

This is horrible.

 

Michael

 

It is so awful Michael. I saw it first from you when I woke up and turned on the computer to check the time -! It is the DANFORTH, Greektown, stubbornly unique, where a river of traffic runs through where jaywalkers stop and talk loudly in the middle of it, one of the fixed stars of every eastender.

I live close to the scene of murder and my son lives closer. Logically I knew they were unlikely to go down there  at 10 on a work night, but they often have --but my own are OK, yet my neighbours are dead and wounded and traumatized, I daren't even check on that nine-year-old gir'ls condition, who was  where just yesterday my boys were 9 and eating souvlaki during the food festival, running wild with their friends.

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My older son just called me. His Scout troop met near  that corner, in the basement of the Catholic church, and the scoutmaster still lives in an adjacent house, known as "Bob's Hotel" as it is an open campground for every travelling scout visiting TO from across the worl;d. There is quite a good space for tents on his lawn. Long may they wave, I hope and believe.

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Canadians should not be allowed to go out in public anymore unless handcuffed, leg-ironed, and accompanied by at least one armed government appointed security officer. That would prevent such shootings. Some extremists might complain that such a policy would infringe on Canadians' "rights," but if we could save the life of just one person, it would be worth it. A little girl died because uppity "rights" nuts refuse to pass laws that make sense. Her young blood is on their hands. It's time to handcuff, detain, and monitor all Canadians at all times.

J

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Blood on shooter's hands. As always, why, why, why?  What was so wrong with you in the world that it was time to take lives of strangers, to destroy, to bring grief to families and loved ones?

The shooter at the Quebec City mosque, he had a why.  It was a crazy why. I expect Faisal Hussain had a why.  Did he not know, as the mosque shooter did not know, that the community unites in solidarity against the perpetrator?  Was he Marc Lepine-style whacked on personal grudges, delusions, manic revenge fantasies?

It's time to not pay attention to mass shootings south of the 49th Parallel. The Canadian pace of such horrible events is slower, so you can get a sense of relative safety in terms you and yours agree.  And more time to address specifics and policy.  The new Premier will be expected to take the leadership role for a grieving and angry community.

 

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Motive: angry with his grandma; angry with women; angry with slaughter in some shithole full of travel-banned; angry with persistent mental health issues; "Snap" killing without anger, pitiless gangland style suicide by terror tactic. More. Psychotic rampage. Semi-psychotic rampage. 

Greektown I remember as having a specific vibe within the Toronto vibe. Summer evenings around 10 o'clock is when life is happening. Why this target  among so many in the metropolitan area?

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4 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Summer evenings around 10 o'clock is when life is happening. Why this target  among so many in the metropolitan area?

William,

They're sitting ducks for bad guys when there's no protection.

The sheep will never make the wolf one of them no matter how often they paint its fur white.

Bad guys exist.

Michael

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It's almost inconceivable her parents put her life at risk , in the face of the armament primacy.

It could be that they purchased firearms in the past though, so they may be also to blame, because of the armament primacy.

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5 hours ago, Jules Troy said:

Wish he would have just shot himself, this is awful.

Jonathan that’s the stupidest thing I think I’ve ever seen you post.

Heh. Are you saying that my proposal wouldn't stop all mass shootings?

Of course it would. Canadians need to be protected from themselves, and my proposal achieves that goal. They would still have their freedoms, but they would be escorted while exercising those freedoms, and prevented from harming others. That's a small price to pay to save even one life!

If you disagree, then you have blood on your hands. It's your fault that the little girl died. You did it.

J

P.S. Yes, Jules, it's stupid, it's absurd. It's reductio ad absurdum. It is the illustration of the absurdity of another's position by being almost as absurd.

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15 hours ago, william.scherk said:

It's time to not pay attention to mass shootings south of the 49th Parallel. The Canadian pace of such horrible events is slower, so you can get a sense of relative safety in terms you and yours agree.  And more time to address specifics and policy.  The new Premier will be expected to take the leadership role for a grieving and angry community.

No, it's long past that time. Enough talk. It's time for action, and grabbing guns isn't the solution, but will actually exacerbate the problem.

Then all of the dopey Canadian sheep will be bleating about assault knives and assault vehicles, and eventually demanding "meaningful legislation" and "common sense reforms" on assault fists and teeth. And during all of the useless talk, people will be dying in the streets.

No, the only solution is the one that I've offered above. Canadians need to be in perpetual lockdown, and to be protected from themselves. They need to be handcuffed and manacled in public while being escorted by government protectors.

No more wasting time proposing and pondering ineffective alternatives while children die.

J

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10 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

 

No, the only solution is the one that I've offered above. Canadians need to be in perpetual lockdown, and to be protected from themselves. They need to be handcuffed and manacled in public while being escorted by government protectors.

 

J

quid custodiet ad ipso custodii?

 

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43 minutes ago, BaalChatzaf said:

quid custodiet ad ipso custodii?

 

Why, the trusted Canadian government protectors, of course!

Surrender to their protection. They will care for you and guard you from harm. Just rest safely in your cozy cell, and when you wish to visit a friend or business associate, simply register and schedule an appointment to be restrained with comfortable devices and gently escorted by delightful caregiver chaperones. You'll still have all of your freedoms, and all of your comforts. Decorate your cell as you see fit. Talk to whomever you wish, and go anywhere you want. But now you'll have the benefit of doing it in complete safety, with only minor inconveniences which you'll quickly adjust to and forget all about. Do it for the children!

J

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12 minutes ago, Jules Troy said:

Mericans still that pissed about the war of 1812 J?

Huh? What does this have to do with Mexico? (1846, not 1812?)

Anyway, I'm proposing protecting Canadians, and saving their lives. There's nothing "pissed" about it. It comes from caring so very deeply about my brothers and sisters to the north, and doing what's best for them. It's all about love.

J

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The following is from The Independent in the UK, but this news is at other mainstream news outlets the world over.

Toronto shooting: Isis claims responsibility for attack which killed two people and wounded 13

If I read the article correctly, Canadian officials and law enforcement say they don't believe it.

Michael

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This is foremost a terrible act whose victims anyone one must empathize with. But sanitizing such actions under "mental illness", and so on, does not do anyone any favours. First - since when are mental issues, even insanity, mutually exclusive from Islamist terror? More of a requirement. Second, it proves what we know, an ideology (a philosophy, of sorts) underlies almost all else, and unrecognising of the fact that all western cities and nations are and can be targets, at random and any time ~precisely because of the liberties they uphold, opposing Islamicist ideology~ amounts to burying one's head in the sand. 

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More evidence that Canadians need to be put in protective lockdown immediately:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/24/toronto-attacks-greektown-shooting-is-city-unraveling

See, it's not just guns, but vehicles and homemade bombs. The only way to stop the horrors is the lockdown plan, with handcuffs, manacles and security escorts when protectees are allowed to visit others. Do it now, Canada, or you're all murderous barbarians. Child killers.

J

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3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The following is from The Independent in the UK, but this news is at other mainstream news outlets the world over.

Toronto shooting: Isis claims responsibility for attack which killed two people and wounded 13

If I read the article correctly, Canadian officials and law enforcement say they don't believe it.

Michael

Latest I read, he was confirmed to be known to  law enforcement and  anti-terrorist investigators. In the Toronto Sun he was quoted as having referred to himself as a "radicalized Muslim."  He seems to be a lone-wolf killer, but if the allegations are true, he was inspired by the insanity of ISIS so they can justly claim "credit." 

 

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1 minute ago, caroljane said:

He seems to be a lone-wolf killer, but if the allegations are true, he was inspired by the insanity of ISIS so they can justly claim "credit." 

Carol,

That's the hedge people say for all the obvious reasons. But I didn't post that to play gotcha.

You folks be on alert. I am sincerely concerned.

Did you see the video--the lack of hesitation in the man when he pulled out the gun and started pulling the trigger? Fully conscious and competent goal-directed action to kill innocent Canadians. That's what's in your country now.

That incident is not going to be the only radical Islamic terror attack on Canada. It can erupt anywhere at any time. (And, man, would I would love to be wrong...)

Michael

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Warmington:

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16 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Warmington:

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He also wrote an article scolding Torontonians for not  displaying enough anger, and not enough tears, just yawningly, grief, sorrow, and comfort to each other.

Sorry it was a slow news day, Joe.

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Shipping containers!!!

They're the perfect solution to the murder mess that Canada has become. Plus they'd be a cost savings, and also have benefits toward the goal of social justice equalization.

So, here's how it works:

All Canadians get a shipping container to live in. You can have the standard government base model for free (yay, social justice!), but if you want to spend your own money on upgrading it, that's grudgingly allowed too, as long as it's not too extravagant. It's insulated, HVACed, comes with plumbing and electrical hookup options, etc.

Inhabitants are limited to their own personal cratehomes for their own safety and that of others. They can have their cratehomes shipped anywhere in Canada that they wish! Just order a friendly, government trucking crew, and they'll load and go. Pretty slick! Inhabitants can become a community by arranging to have their cratehomes placed next to, or on top of (become part of a skyscraper stack, fuck yeah!), those of friends and family, if they choose, or off on their own next to a beautiful lake or mountain panorama if they prefer solitude (beauty, eh!). And they can leave their cratehomes whenever they choose to schedule to do so, while handcuffed and manacled under the loving guidance of gentle security caregivers.

Murder problem solved! Social justice achieved! Humanity restored!

J

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