william.scherk Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, Peter said: Resistance is futile. The meaning is blurred. Does Your Ilk always avoid making the subject of commentary clear? "Objection, Your Honour. Leading question." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 11:17 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Essentially this is a pre-manufactured false-flag case. I haven't read it, but the judge is probably right in his judgment. Under whose flag is Alex Jones working, Faye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, william.scherk said: Under whose flag is Alex Jones working, Faye? William, The Freedom Flag. The same one I work under. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 22 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: William, The Freedom Flag. The same one I work under. Michael I for one wish him to have freedom from having to scream "I want freedom! "in an exhausted tenor after getting worked up after how ugly Hillary is, every time here is a lag in the commercial break. Not fair to him, he is a creative artisan after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, caroljane said: ... how ugly Hillary is... Carol, Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Carol, Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Michael Excessive! Coalition of the Ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljane Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Carol, Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up! Michael Don't you dare! Statue of Liberty need a new dress#tired of upskirt photos#melania help me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Can anyone recognize this Cabal flag? On 7/2/2018 at 5:04 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: On 7/2/2018 at 1:12 PM, william.scherk said: On 6/30/2018 at 11:17 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Essentially this is a pre-manufactured false-flag case. I haven't read it, but the judge is probably right in his judgment. Under whose flag is Alex Jones working The Freedom Flag. The same one I work under. "I salute the Flag of False Flags, as pre-manufactured." Or, "The Florida High School Shooting Something Something False Flag." 17 minutes ago, 'As read by Jan Brady' said: High School false flag shooting facilitator and co-conspirator to mass murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Cabal Stormtrooper Bots: 1 Anti-Luciferian Avengers: 0 On 6/30/2018 at 11:17 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: When it got to the point where normal Trump supporters were not even showing up near the top of the comments to his tweets, his staff started blocking the bot users. They probably caught a legitimate user here and there because the sheer volume of bots they needed to block made them also need to work fast. Then the folks who hired the spambots started floating the Big Lie that President Trump is too thin-skinned for Twitter because anti-immigrant, racist, misogynist, buffoon, bully, blah blah blah, and the big money in the anti-Trump world put together a legal case. The lawsuit named the accounts the plaintiffs wished to be unblocked. Trump and Scavino are appealing the ruling, by the way, which may or may not be automatic in cases like this. The judge's ruling may be clear and correct, but it will have to survive review. From the Big Money in the Anti-Trump World, the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, in September last year: White House Won’t Contest that Trump Blocked Twitter Users for Criticizing Him See also, if indicated, the actual Trump v Cabal memorandum and order: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 1:57 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jonathan, This should warm your heart. I'm not 100% certain, but because of the context where it was posted, I am pretty sure this happened there. Like the lady kept yelling at the guy who was attacked by a dude in a mask with a steel pipe, but who knocked the dude out flat like a pancake, "Why are you so angry? Why are you so angry? Why are you so angry? You racist!" Why is he so angry, indeed? After all, what's wrong with clubbing someone with a steel pipe as a tool of persuasion? And who the hell is he to target and oppress masked people swinging steel pipes at him, anyway/ How racist can you get? I feel sorry for people who can't see this. At least they can see that they need better combat training if they want to attack innocent people more effectively. They want a civil war, but I think they should postpone the onset until they have done a little bootcamp... Otherwise, people will think this is a staged comedy. Michael Since you posted the above video, I've been checking out recordings of Antifa's confrontations. They make me think of the line from American Pie, "The players tried to take the field, the marching band refused to yield," but only because these Antifa twerps look like stereotypical band dorks picking a physical fight with the athletes. It's so naive. In many of the videos, they appear shocked and outraged that anyone would dare to physically retaliate against their attacks. They look as if they believed that it's a game of let's pretend, and that their little costumes would protect them and make them tough and strong. They look like physically less-than-average kids who have chosen the one means of political involvement that they are the most ill-suited to. A preview of "the coming civil war" (these kids are lucky that their opponents held back and weren't looking to seriously hurt anyone): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonathan said: A preview of "the coming civil war" (these kids are lucky that their opponents held back and weren't looking to seriously hurt anyone)... Jonathan, I don't know of the guy in the video below is Antifa, but I would not want to be him right now. This video hit the main headline spot on Drudge. The 16 year old kid was wearing a MAGA hat on July 4th (yesterday) in a fast food joint in San Antonio and a 30 year old dude he didn't know objected in the classic bully fashion lefties like to do these days. So went out for a 2am snack and my friend (wearing a MAGA hat) had his hat stolen and a drink thrown in his face (and mine, you can see my arms on the left of the video) pic.twitter.com/B3QjBFIxPk — Brax? (@brxpug) July 4, 2018 Feelin' the luv... Like I said, I wouldn't want to be that dude right now. Think of all those combat trained patriots who are going to demand that the bully pick on someone his own size... like them, for instance... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jonathan, I don't know of the guy in the video below is Antifa, but I would not want to be him right now. This video hit the main headline spot on Drudge. The 16 year old kid was wearing a MAGA hat on July 4th (yesterday) in a fast food joint in San Antonio and a 30 year old dude they didn't know objected in true bully fashion lefties like to do these days. Feelin' the luv... Like I said, I wouldn't want to be that dude right now. Think of all those combat trained patriots who are going to demand that the bully pick on someone his own size... like them, for instance... Michael Im not surprised at all. This is what the leftist ideology inevitably breeds. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) First visit to Portland with Los Popularos back in 1982 was memorable. We had come to play during a time of "racial tension" in the city, and as a dog's head was left overnight on the porch of the hall we were to play at, we ended up with no gig and a kind of curiosity about How Did They Get Here? Near as I could figure it out at the time, Portland had a residual residential segregation and a resistance to neighbourhoods "changing demographics." So the round of dog heads, threats, arson, assaults was tied into matters I could not see first hand, history. I did see my first "Black Safeway" grocery store. We had a sort of residential commercial self-segregation up in Vancouver, and so fully-stocked "Chinese" streets, but by that time any racial animosity between the Asians in the city and the rest had dissolved and been replaced by suspicion of South Asians. Harsh racialized events shocked me. In Eugene, Oregon, our billet was with a nice young group steeped in "independent radical" traditions stretching back to The Wobblies -- they filled us in on the background of racialism in Oregon as well as the co-operative activism that hosted us "punk" bands. By the time we had done our gigs in LA, the Bay Area, and Seattle again, and were back home sweet home, I did a bit more digging on "racial tension" in Portland, what had happened in the segregation era, and how it had emerged (being a bit of an amateur urbanist, I have been following Portland's urban renaissance since the 90s) more healthy. I don't know much in detail about contemporary Right and Left formations in the city of Portland, but I feel estranged from both. Vancouver has had major riots that put Portland's to shame. Hockey, usually. Seattle has also hosted the rampaging fanatics of the Black Bloc during a G7. The Wobblies and Bloc-ists and formal AntiFa seem like the cults of Marxism that self-segregate to the old Italian commercial ghetto in Vancouver. They are all wired up to the dogma so that it seems to electrify them more than normal human pursuits might. Yes, I knew two of the Squamish Five). So, contemporary Portland, beyond its loopy reputation and its repeating clashes? The "Patriot" forces of citizens said to "provoke" the seething-with-cult-activist-righteousness opposing citizens ... what do we know about them? What are they hoping to have happen as a result of their 'activism' in Portland? Who are these guys and what does an Objectivish survey tell us about their aims, goals, plans, and future so-called provocations? Edited July 5, 2018 by william.scherk "Why does a relatively-tiny group of agitators get attacked by the 'anti-fascist' lougans?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, william.scherk said: The "Patriot" forces of citizens said to "provoke" the seething-with-cult-activist-righteousness opposing citizens ... what do we know about them? What are they hoping to have happen as a result of their 'activism' in Portland? Do we need to know anything about them? Are their beliefs, motives and goals relevant? If it turns out that we don't like them or agree with what they stand for, does that mean that they deserve whatever masked commie kids want to dish out? 1 hour ago, william.scherk said: Who are these guys and what does an Objectivish survey tell us about their aims, goals, plans, and future so-called provocations? An Objectivish survey should tell us that all of that is irrelevant toward determining whose rights may or may not have been violated. J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonathan said: An Objectivish survey should tell us that all of that is irrelevant toward determining whose rights may or may not have been violated. Jonathan, Steel pipe brandished as weapons and hats yanked off young heads so hard their hair is pulled out. How quickly these things disappear in passionate discourse of the left. You wonder about folks who are deathly afraid of productive peace-loving men (and sometimes women) who fight back when attacked and know combat skills. All the fearful want to talk about is the rights of the thugs that the victims and their defenders will soon violate... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 53 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jonathan, Steel pipe brandished as weapons and hats yanked off young heads so hard their hair is pulled out. Apparently we can't judge such incidents until we first learn the motives, aims and goals of those who were beaten with pipes or had their hair pulled out? If a person counter-protests against violent, masked commie dweebs, one must be pure of heart and mind, and have valid reasons for provoking (triggering) leftists? If a youth wears a MAGA hat resulting in his getting slapped around a bit by an adult and having his soft drink thrown in his face, we must not rush to judgment and condemn his attacker, because first we would have to know WHY he was wearing a MAGA hat, and what he believes the phrase means to "Make America Great Again." After all, the left has decided to read their own meanings into the phrase, such as that Republicans use it to mean that America was great when slavery existed, and if the left decides to assign that belief to a youth who has been battered by a righteous leftist adult, then the little shit had it coming? Or am I misunderstanding Billy? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jonathan said: If a youth wears a MAGA hat resulting in his getting slapped around a bit by an adult and having his soft drink thrown in his face, we must not rush to judgment and condemn his attacker, because first we would have to know WHY he was wearing a MAGA hat, and what he believes the phrase means to "Make America Great Again." After all, the left has decided to read their own meanings into the phrase, such as that Republicans use it to mean that America was great when slavery existed, and if the left decides to assign that belief to a youth who has been battered by a righteous leftist adult, then the little shit had it coming? Jonathan, What's more is that Kino Jimenez, the name of the genius who assaulted the teenager, was merely following the call of Maxine Waters. She told her followers to harass Trump people in public places and let them know they are not welcome in public. Her direct quote (from here Quote If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. You push back on them. Tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere! I think Jimenez was merely acting on what she said that the righteous people have to do, except he extended it to Trump supporters in general. And who needs a crowd when he is so much bigger than the teenager that he can take care of business without one? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said: Jonathan, What's more is that Kino Jimenez, the name of the genius who assaulted the teenager, was merely following the call of Maxine Waters. She told her followers to harass Trump people in public places and let them know they are not welcome in public. Her direct quote (from here I think Jimenez was merely acting on what she said that the righteous people have to do, except he extended it to Trump supporters in general. And who needs a crowd when he is so much bigger than the teenager that he can take care of business without one? Michael Maxine Waters stepped in front of the parade. It's been building since the election. She gave it direction and a blow horn. The left had already been working overtime on inventing justification for violence. That's the false Narrative's purpose. They willfully misinterpret Trump, his supporters, and even people who like some of his policies but not others and just refuse to go along with their lies (if you're not with us you're against us), and assign them motives, aims and goals. They repeat it often enough that they can at least pretend to believe that it's true. The Others, the Trump Thems, deserve beatings. Jiminez has been arrested. http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/tmz-writer-maga-hat-swastika/ Check out the tweet at the bottom of the page. The violence was understandable, because The Narrative! Jiminez got "conjured." We want to believe it's a dog whistle racist xenophobe hat, therefore it is, and we have less feelings of sympathy for victims of violence. We've assigned aims, goals, plans and provocations, so we're almost justified, and pretty soon we'll take the step to outright supporting violence. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william.scherk Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) On 7/5/2018 at 11:06 AM, william.scherk said: The "Patriot" forces of citizens said to "provoke" the seething-with-cult-activist-righteousness opposing citizens ... what do we know about them? What are they hoping to have happen as a result of their 'activism' in Portland? One can take the word of Joey Gibson, the leader of Patriot Prayer, the group that had a permit to march on June 30. From a July 1 update at KOIN-6 News, Opposing groups clash in downtown Portland riot: "Today was good in terms that we showed that there's a political move right now to have the police stand down in order to impact free speech in some of these big cities. Portland's the last city on the West Coast that's doing that, so we just have to keep hitting it -- I don't see what else to do other than that. We'll make Portland so ugly in terms of how they allow these protesters to charge us when we have a permit. The police stood down, we were told they would not stand down, so we have to challenge it," organizer Joey Gibson said before leaving. From Gibson's Facebook: From a 2017 Bustle story that tries to be cough evenhanded: In a Facebook Live video from Aug. 19, Gibson said Patriot Prayer is about rooting out any environments that suppress free speech. "This isn't a political thing, I'm not out here to tell you who to vote for. That's not what Patriot Prayer is about. Patriot Prayer is about trying to build a healthy culture, and to stand against the hate. You stand against Antifa and the communists, stand against the white supremacists, the Nazis, whoever it may be. You stand against all these people who think that they run the streets, who think that they can control people with fear. And so Patriot Prayer has always been about going into these areas, where people are too afraid to speak up." One of the great things about America, marching for what you believe in. These guys had their shields taken away on June 30, but that did not stop their fun. -- the Black Bloc faction within the counter-demonstrators seems to me to be primarily responsible for kicking off the rioting. According to the Oregonian, the Patriot Prayer opponents were the first to huck eggs, water bottles, and other projectiles (elsewhere reported to include firecrackers), once the PP's march got underway. Numerous videos have appeared recording those moments, from various angles. Here is one posted to the Daily Mail: One thing I remain unclear on. The Portland Police reported in a tweet that they had used 'aerial distraction devices' on the 30th I don't know if this is the same as a 'flash-bang' charge or not. Probably not. The videos do show an explosive event, but do not indicate where the charge was launched from or by whom. Edited July 7, 2018 by william.scherk Note about the Oregonian; link to Gibson Facebook page; resized image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 7/5/2018 at 1:06 PM, william.scherk said: The "Patriot" forces of citizens said to "provoke" the seething-with-cult-activist-righteousness opposing citizens ... what do we know about them? Here you go, William. Meet the "evil" patriot, Rufio Panman, who, in his "cowardice," knocked out the "heroic" Antifa Warrior who sent women out to taunt to the unarmed "white trash," then once it was clear they were unarmed, came from behind with a steel pipe. Scary, huh? It's an acquired taste, but, man, do I love how Alex Jones gloats. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Stuart Kelly Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Since a lot of merriment has been going around about Alex Jones warning that the left is calling for a civil war and violence against Trump supporters, here is a video compilation. Or, with reference to the title of this thread, here is a video compilation of losers. I wonder how Alex faked all those people saying those things... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I do get a kick out of Michael Moore calling for other leftist idiots to put their bodies on the line. He says "our" bodies, but he won't be out there, at least not without lots of muscle and guns protecting him. He won't be pushing his fat ass up against Trump supporters, shooting in their faces, or taking swings at them. I wish he would. Seeing it, and the consequences, would be the ultimate in entertainment, but it ain't gonna happen. Only a few naive nobody kids will be dumb enough to follow his advice. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Letendre Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Yeah, same with Loretta “we need blood in the streets” Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 7/1/2018 at 4:47 PM, caroljane said: Jeez Dale, just because my mother told me not to read your book and make friends the regular way! You sure hold a grudge. I looked for any of my old references concerning “grudges” or “holding a grudge.” Why do we hold a grudge? I couldn’t find much or anything “deep.” But how many times in your life have you considered something like, “Hah! Now’s my chance to get even.” Peter Years ago, I wrote to a now vanished site: However, why is anyone on Atlantis? To be with like-minded people, to not be alone, to gossip, to fuss with people and to settle old grudges, to learn, to contribute to every Objectivist's general knowledge, and to contribute to Consensus Objectivist Positions (If there can be such a thing.) I wrote to Rush Limbaugh about a Presidential primary race: The voting booth is such a private place. It’s a place where grudges can be settled. It’s a place where a woman can be as powerful as a man. It’s a place a woman can change the world for the better. McCain has the man’s vote. The women’s vote will decide the race. From: Hllw To: objectivism . . . . Palestinians demonstrated against Egypt and Israel under similar circumstances. The Egyptians showed up with trucks, opened machine guns, and massacred the demonstrators. The Israelis tried to understand their grievances. The Palestinians harbored no ill will toward the Egyptians, but complained bitterly about the insufficient concessions granted by the Israelis. (Similarly, the Palestinians harbored no grudge against the Jordanians for the massacre of Black September.) If you were a Palestinian, who would you demonstrate against and condemn? I wrote about then candidate Donald Trump: . . . I think Nathaniel Brandon termed it *psychologizing,* and like *profiling* it is not an exact science but only a guessing tool. What kind of a person is Donald Trump? He is a builder. He accumulates wealth. He likes the limelight and being larger than life. He uses people. Sometimes he admits to his faults, displays his true virtues, or exaggerates his virtues. He is not articulate about political philosophy. He vilifies anyone who opposes him and he carries a grudge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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