Incels

[caroljane]

11 minutes ago, Peter said:

I am always heartened when Hollywood depicts a strong, horny woman.

Are we talking about the same Pele (or Pere as in Michener's Hawaii) ?  The one with the glassy hair like dried lava, who warned selected worshippers when she was going to erupt? Come on, if there was ever a thorough Democrat,  she's it!

Carol

#Times Up for EOMDEs*

*(Entitled Overrated Male Divinities  Everywhere) 

[william.scherk]

'What was John Kennedy's so-called "Secret Societies" speech all about? Does it have anything to do with Russia Russia Russia -- or is it mostly about the Luciferians whose machinations gave us Alek Minassian and Styxhexenhammer?'

On 5/6/2018 at 4:54 PM, Jon Letendre said:

Here is President John F. Kennedy on April 27, 1961:

* “The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings”

* “Today no war has been declared — and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack”

* “We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence — on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day”

* “It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations”

 

 

Spoiler

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

4 hours ago, william.scherk said:

'Who is an incel at heart?'

 

William,

Thanks for quoting me and I still stand by my comments.

Let's be clear, though. I saw someone somewhere give the equivalent of my opinion on all this pretty accurately. He said with Bill Cosby, there have been so many accusers, there is probably something going on. But he doesn't want a simple accusation--not even many accusations--to lead to a jail sentence. Moral is one thing, legal is another. For legal issues, he wants the system of equal rights under the law to prevail. But for moral issues, let each man or woman make up their own minds. That's the way I think.

And I extend the same thinking to Schneiderman.

But, man, did he resign awfully fast. Dontcha think?

Aw... What the hell...

Lawsuits take a long time, so what to do in the meantime?

I have an idea...

Why don't we try to nail as many SJW issues in one whack as possible? Why not take a powerful white man, a dark-skinned immigrant female from a poor country, and role play a bit?

 

Let's start by getting stinking drunk, then calling the female immigrant from a poor country, "You fucking whore," then spit on her, smack her around and choke her for a while just for fun, then start referring to her as your own brown slave and keep beating her until she calls you master, all this before sex, then, after it's over (for that day) scare the shit out of her with stalking, intimidation and threats of death if she ever talks.

Oh what fun we'll have.

 

Let's see what all we've got:

1. The powerful oppressive white guy,
2. Oppression of a female immigrant from a poor country (among other women, but let's stay with her for now),
3. White-black racism of the worst sort in humiliating a dark-skinned person, even bringing in master and slave stuff,
4. Misogyny with misogynistic hate-speech,
5. Violence against a woman, including choking, when she was naked and vulnerable, 
6. Abusive repeated alcoholic rages,
7. Threats of reprisals and death against a victim if the victim talks about this to others, and
8. Lavishing goodies on the victim after abusing her to show off his power over her and demanding more sex from her.

It's breathtaking how competent Schneiderman was at his own versatility. Look how many issues he nails with just one case.

But worst of all for me was something else. Schneiderman's nickname for "his brown-ass little immigrant whore" was "Turnip." Who the hell says, "I love you, Turnip"? I mean, what the hell kind of man ever says anything like that?

 

Michael 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

But, man, did he resign awfully fast. Dontcha think?

Rush Limbaugh says Schneiderman's left-wing women got fed up with him putting them in the hospital from beatings, then bragging in public about how he fights for women's rights.

Feminists Attempt But Fail to Protect Sexual Predator Schneiderman

Rush's contention is that all of these high-profile left-wing men who keep getting busted for abusing women were devoted to pro-feminist causes to get poontang and cover up their abusive predilections. Schneiderman is merely one of many (going back to Clinton and beyond). It makes sense.

Rush says this is called Liberal Privilege.

It's kinda like White Privilege, but with a few minor differences.

btw - Here is Samantha Bee trying to make Schneiderman a superhero last November. The reason for this kind of storytelling propaganda effort was because Schneiderman was the left's big hope to take out President Trump. But it has now backfired big-time.

Bee even changed her title to the video, but, to the public at large, the clean-up is messier than the poo on the floor she left. It looks like the stage one goes through right before rewriting history.

 

Michael

[Jon Letendre]

This Schneiderman stuff is mild. Wait until you see Liddle’ Shit Adam Schiff crash. Nasty, truly horrific

They tried antifa violence during the election and they’ve been panicked and hysterical since the election. They’ve been trying desperately to effect a coup. They resist and resist and resist - what exactly? What is there to so desperately resist? They resist the exposure of those who corrupted our civil institutions and sold us out. They resist the return to clean systems of justice that actually work. They resist exposure and punishment of themselves and their friends. They have a very good reason to resist.

Plainly, Team Trump is gaining the upper hand.

Bye, traitor Schneiderman.

[william.scherk]

Who said it? "They are satanic child sex traffickers"

17 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:

Wait until you see Liddle’ Shit Adam Schiff crash. Nasty, truly horrific

They tried antifa violence during the election and they’ve been panicked and hysterical since the election. They’ve been trying desperately to effect a coup. They resist and resist and resist - what exactly? What is there to so desperately resist? They resist the exposure of those who corrupted our civil institutions and sold us out. They resist the return to clean systems of justice that actually work. They resist exposure and punishment of themselves and their friends. They have a very good reason to resist.

 

[Jon Letendre]

So Billyboy, the FBI, for example, was not corrupted to its core? We didn’t see an FBI goon standing behind the Vegas Sherrif during every conference while the nervous-looking Sherrif told absurdity after absurdity? Every top leader at FBI has been sent packing after telling egregious lies and committing crimes. The entire leadership at top is new.

But you say this is all in my head? Is that what your stupid post means? Does it mean nothing has been corrupted and so there can be no “They” who did it?

Are you starting to feel a zing of guilt for your past support of Liddle’ Shit, is that it? I’m sure you’re noticing his Tweets are getting stranger and it’s his friends falling hard lately, not administration people. That has to be uncomfortable. Q says he will be tied to Standard Hotel and certain kinds of trafficking through the port in his district. All of it is so very uncomfortable. There’s always calling me Jan Brady! It’s good that you have that, while we wait out the day of his suicide to prevent capture.

[caroljane]

28 minutes ago, Jon Letendre said:

So Billyboy, the FBI, for example, was not corrupted to its core? We didn’t see an FBI goon standing behind the Vegas Sherrif during every conference while the nervous-looking Sherrif told absurdity after absurdity? Every top leader at FBI has been sent packing after telling egregious lies and committing crimes. The entire leadership at top is new.

But you say this is all in my head? Is that what your stupid post means? Does it mean nothing has been corrupted and so there can be no “They” who did it?

Are you starting to feel a zing of guilt for your past support of Liddle’ Shit, is that it? I’m sure you’re noticing his Tweets are getting stranger and it’s his friends falling hard lately, not administration people. That has to be uncomfortable. Q says he will be tied to Standard Hotel and certain kinds of trafficking through the port in his district. All of it is so very uncomfortable. There’s always calling me Jan Brady! It’s good that you have that, while we wait out the day of his suicide to prevent capture.

What is wrong with you?  Why do you need to obsessively fantasize about the suicides or executions of those whose  politics you disagree with? Can't you just vote against them and campaign for their rivals like a normal person?

Jeez.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

As I understand it, "them" means ruling class pedophiles.

So what's wrong with wanting to take out those "them"?

I'm all in favor of it.

To be objective, reality must be accepted as is, not deduced from a principle and hardened into a rule. Besides, these kinds of rules always get to be fudged by insiders. It's a "them" kinda thing...

 

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

4 minutes ago, caroljane said:

Why do you need to obsessively fantasize about the suicides or executions of those whose  politics you disagree with?

Carol,

To me, Jon is always fantasizing about the death of pedophiles he strongly disagrees with. Being a politician is just gravy...

He, like I, have seen what pedophilia does to children...

Michael

[caroljane]

1 minute ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

As I understand it, "them" means ruling class pedophiles.

So what's wrong with wanting to take out those "them"?

I'm all in favor of it.

To be objective, reality must be accepted as is, not deduced from a principle and hardened into a rule. Besides, these kinds of rules always get to be fudged by insiders. It's a "them" kinda thing...

 

Michael

So Adam Schiff is  a ruling class pedophile? Proven and convicted under the law?

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

29 minutes ago, caroljane said:

So Adam Schiff is  a ruling class pedophile? Proven and convicted under the law?

Carol,

Probably to the first question. Not yet to the second.

It's a pretty good chance he will suffer the force of the law, though.

Let's see what happens. Legally, he has one status (innocent until proven guilty). 

But individuals have the right to make their own moral judgements and make them known irrespective of the law. Jon sure makes his known.  

And that means he has another status not governed by law. As status each of us has the right to grant, change, or maintain.

And if you think I am not objective on this issue, I want to point you to a thread on OL called The Smearing of Jim Peron. This man was smeared as a pedophile by some jerks in New Zealand and, to my shame, I chimed in. When I later looked at the evidence, I saw I was wrong. So I made a public apology to Jim and made my stand in support of him. In fact, I stood against the majority in our subcommunity and received an enormous amount of pressure backstage to stop.

I believe I helped neutralize the smear. Jim, and the people who defended him, suddenly had something published in public to point to.

I am very proud of doing that.

(And I say that even though Jim is a Trump hater bordering on the fanatical level.  )

Now, what makes this different than the case of ruling class elites who are pedophiles, but not yet proven or convicted?

One HUGE difference is the direction political power flows in. The people who smeared Jim used the smear against him to neutralize his political influence in New Zealand politics. They wanted to usurp his influence for themselves and, eventually, gain power.

The people against the ruling class pedophiles here in the US want them to stop and repent and, when possible, suffer the consequences of the justice system. Or be destroyed in a way where they can't hurt children anymore. But mostly they want the pedophilia to stop and the victimized children rescued, protected, and cared for.

They are moved by intense anger due to what the children have suffered, not power-lust. Hell, not even gossip.

Michael

[Jon Letendre]

39 minutes ago, caroljane said:

What is wrong with you?  Why do you need to obsessively fantasize about the suicides or executions of those whose  politics you disagree with? Can't you just vote against them and campaign for their rivals like a normal person?

Jeez.

It helps me get to sleep at night. I count elite  pedos and their pedo minions being tossed over a fence. It’s all about Serenity.

[caroljane]

23 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

 

Now, what makes this different than the case of ruling class elites who are pedophiles, but not yet proven or convicted?

One HUGE difference is the direction political power flows in. The people who smeared Jim used the smear against him to neutralize his political influence in New Zealand politics. They wanted to usurp his influence for themselves and, eventually, gain power.

The people against the ruling class pedophiles here in the US want them to stop and repent and, when possible, suffer the consequences of the justice system. Or be destroyed in a way where they can't hurt children anymore. But mostly they want the pedophilia to stop and the victimized children rescued, protected, and cared for.

They are moved by intense anger due to what the children have suffered, not power-lust. Hell, not even gossip.

Michael

Yes, I knew of the Jim Peron case, it is prominent on the forums board as it should be, and I have always admired you for recanting false allegations you thought in the heat of the moment were true.

This case is different, as you say. Partly because there are so many, many accused of being complicit in pedophilia that it is dizzying, and all of them are politically opposed to the present administration.  

"The people against the ruling class pedophiles" are not motivated by power-lust, or even gossip, if I may precis your post.

But does the motivation of the opponents of the accused pedophiles make the accused any more or less guilty? Surely only the evidence can do that.

If their motivation is only to protect children, then surely they and their supporters would have no interest in smearing, but only to root out all pedophiles they can verify by fact, not supposition, and not by connecting dots that lead nowhere, unless viewed through the magic lens of Confirmation Bias.

You know more about the psychology and process of all this than I do through your studies, Michael. I  try always to live by your motto too.

Know thyself.

[KorbenDallas]

Is this what is being considered as evidence for Schiff?

 

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

23 minutes ago, caroljane said:

If their motivation is only to protect children, then surely they and their supporters would have no interest in smearing, but only to root out all pedophiles they can verify by fact, not supposition, and not by connecting dots that lead nowhere, unless viewed through the magic lens of Confirmation Bias.

Carol,

Ah... if people were motivated by one thing only. Of course there are those among Trump supporters (the faction that is rooting out the ruling class pedophiles) who are interested in more than ending an evil. Some of them want power, want to smear their opponents, etc. But, as I am one of the Trump supporters so I know them well, I feel very comfortable saying the main motivation for most of them is stamping out the highly protected pedophilia in the ruling class supported by the web of blackmail that arose from it. They love and want to protect the children.

I agree that Confirmation Bias is always a danger, but when a system gets thoroughly rotten through vice and blackmail, you have to connect dots in order to get law enforcement interested.

And speaking of Confirmation Bias, imagine if a new President went to a hotel where the Obamas had slept and hired some hookers to pee on the same bed. At least, that's so odd, Confirmation Bias would never kick in on his accusers, would it?    

The good thing about this case is that President Trump did not have to go through the dot-connecting stage. His accusers went directly to the justice system and corrupted it.

(This still didn't work for the Wile E Coyote party, though.)

Michael

[Jon Letendre]

Motivations are many in a complex situation like this. Law enforcement should proceed with disinterest in outcomes. But not everyone is law enforcement. There are also intelligence agencies, the military, little posters to philosophy boards like me, and everyone else. People from all walks of life are seeing the elite pedophile control systems and have different responses, responsibilities and motivations.

My motivation certainly includes protecting children, but also protecting freedom. The gang of elites who hijacked our country are evil. They employ pure evil in operation and maintenance of their leadership systems. They are fascist, totalitarian, evil little bastards who mean to literally enslave you. They own all the media and have half the population in a fucking trance. I post here to raise awareness and hopefully speed the awakening.

You don’t have to get it yet. There will be more news and Michael and I will keep talking and along the way and you will see.

[KorbenDallas]

Appeal to Emotion: Children

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion#Children

Children

Children are more often than not toddled out as an appeal to emotion. From pictures of starving children to motivate people to give to charity to using them as any excuse to ban things that children shouldn't even be aware of (porn, for example), they are repeatedly paraded in front of audiences to appeal to their emotional protective instincts, often overriding anyone's sense of rationality. "For the children" or "think of the children" as emotional appeals have been used with success in passing political motions such as Proposition Hate in California. More recently, conservatives have been pushing anti-trans bathroom laws, ostensibly to protect children from trans people (cis people never ever molest children^{Do You Believe That?}). One case of a bill titled specifically for this emotional appeal is the Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011, which would require ISPs to store and provide the government with backlogs of every user's online activity on demand. By titling it that way, it makes it easy to claim opponents are in favor of child pornography even if they're talking about the privacy implications and 200 million dollar burden it imposes on private ISPs.

[caroljane]

4 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

Appeal to Emotion: Children

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion#Children

Children

Children are more often than not toddled out as an appeal to emotion. From pictures of starving children to motivate people to give to charity to using them as any excuse to ban things that children shouldn't even be aware of (porn, for example), they are repeatedly paraded in front of audiences to appeal to their emotional protective instincts, often overriding anyone's sense of rationality. "For the children" or "think of the children" as emotional appeals have been used with success in passing political motions such as Proposition Hate in California. More recently, conservatives have been pushing anti-trans bathroom laws, ostensibly to protect children from trans people (cis people never ever molest children^{Do You Believe That?}). One case of a bill titled specifically for this emotional appeal is the Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011, which would require ISPs to store and provide the government with backlogs of every user's online activity on demand. By titling it that way, it makes it easy to claim opponents are in favor of child pornography even if they're talking about the privacy implications and 200 million dollar burden it imposes on private ISPs.

Wow, that is informative.

I can see it would be a lot cheaper to protect children by just arrestin a whole passel of Democrats. Glad Jon and his buddies in law enforcement are on the case. Feel safer already.

The Widder Lynam

mother of 2

[KorbenDallas]

3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

you have to connect dots in order to get law enforcement interested. 

 

2 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Law enforcement should proceed with disinterest in outcomes. But not everyone is law enforcement. There are also intelligence agencies, the military, little posters to philosophy boards like me, and everyone else. People from all walks of life are seeing the elite pedophile control systems and have different responses, responsibilities and motivations.

My motivation certainly includes protecting children, but also protecting freedom. The gang of elites who hijacked our country are evil. They employ pure evil in operation and maintenance of their leadership systems. They are fascist, totalitarian, evil little bastards who mean to literally enslave you. They own all the media and have half the population in a fucking trance. I post here to raise awareness and hopefully speed the awakening.

You don’t have to get it yet. There will be more news and Michael and I will keep talking and along the way and you will see.

I worked around law enforcement for several years and in my experience they were very motivated to go after pedophiles.  I was not an officer, yet I worked in a support position.  This was at the local level, and I can say the state FBI was involved in their own cases as well.  I can say that in my experience the law enforcement and judicial system were very interested and motivated to go after the criminals and they were effective as well.  It was my impression that it was like this nationwide.

[Jon Letendre]

Arrestin and hangin, yup. Lots of it. And it is making freedom safer. But not just Democrats. Dennis Hastert was a Republican - they harnessed him and installed him as Speaker. There will be many more. It’s not about the parties, this problem is everywhere.

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

7 hours ago, KorbenDallas said:

Appeal to Emotion: Children

Korben,

Heh.

Appeal to children can be abused. But so can having sex with them.

It's a reality thing.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

7 hours ago, KorbenDallas said:

I can say that in my experience the law enforcement and judicial system were very interested and motivated to go after the criminals and they were effective as well.  It was my impression that it was like this nationwide.

Korben,

I have no doubt this is true on the level of us common folks. 

Where you worked, how many RULING CLASS pedophiles did your law enforcement buddies put away?

Hmmmmm?...

They are the problem Jon and I are talking about, not the pervert in the suburbs who has a stash of kiddie porn (who is no barrel of laughs in his own right).

Notice that President Trump has massive support of lower level law enforcement folks across the nation and in all agencies. It's the elites who are the problem. And not all elites. Just some of them. But, man, are they evil fucks.

Michael

[Michael Stuart Kelly]

7 hours ago, caroljane said:

I can see it would be a lot cheaper to protect children by just arrestin a whole passel of Democrats.

Carol,

Public floggings would help, too.

Michael

[KorbenDallas]

14 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Korben,

I have no doubt this is true on the level of us common folks. 

Where you worked, how many RULING CLASS pedophiles did your law enforcement buddies put away?

Hmmmmm?...

They are the problem Jon and I are talking about, not the pervert in the suburbs who has a stash of kiddie porn (who is no barrel of laughs in his own right).

Notice that President Trump has massive support of lower level law enforcement folks across the nation and in all agencies. It's the elites who are the problem. And not all elites. Just some of them. But, man, are they evil fucks.

Michael

Okay, but I still don't see how the conclusion was made that Schiff was probably a ruling class pedophile.