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8 minutes ago, Brant Gaede said:

The author claims the chef is close to Trump (with no elaboration).

---Brant

Brant,

Propaganda works more by insinuation than by fact.

This was a massive insinuation fail.

Just look at the headline.

The intent was: Our hard hitting journalist went to the covert corners of Trump's world, uncovered the nasty hidden truths buried there and now we are exposing it all to you as the next scoop that will rival Deep Throat. 

But pastry?

Imagine what's hidden in the entrées...

And where the hell's the poison? You mean pastry and no poison? That's the scoop?

(That's the way people read this.)

:)

Michael

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"Does 'Q' pollute discourse?"

"Shut your face, you disgusting pedophile."

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4 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Brant,

Propaganda works more by insinuation than by fact.

Brant,

If you have time, here is a rather entertaining video that scratches the surface of what I mean.

You see these tricks (and others) used in almost all of the leftie agenda arguments, but in quite a lot of the rightwing arguments, too.

Politics seems to draw out the inner manipulator in people.

:)

In fact, I think the appeal of QAnon is that, by Q mixing the worst propaganda insinuations the left can come up with actual information important to its readers, and letting its readers in on what it is doing, this neutralizes these propaganda techniques.

It's like the Hitchcock examples in the beginning of the video. The left thinks it's showing itself as a sexy beautiful woman to the man grinning, but instead, the man is seeing clowns. Then the left asks, "You don't want to be a clown, do you?" And the man keeps grinning the same grin.

The left then thinks it's winning, but can't figure out why the man never agrees in the end...

:) 

Michael

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On 2/22/2019 at 7:57 PM, caroljane said:

This is as elite as you get -- let the floodgates of retribution open!

 I am hesitant to condemn him yet. The news says the "transactions" are/were consensual but other sources said the Asian woman was "almost" a slave. Sorry. edit I see this was mentioned after I read Caroljane's post. Is the Kraft Foods guy married?  

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9 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Brant,

Propaganda works more by insinuation than by fact.

This was a massive insinuation fail.

Just look at the headline.

The intent was: Our hard hitting journalist went to the covert corners of Trump's world, uncovered the nasty hidden truths buried there and now we are exposing it all to you as the next scoop that will rival Deep Throat. 

But pastry?

Imagine what's hidden in the entrées...

And where the hell's the poison? You mean pastry and no poison? That's the scoop?

(That's the way people read this.)

:)

Michael

They are no doubt feverishly working on a new false flag, committed by a “Q fanatic,” that will be bloody and will demonstrate the “dangerous nature of the the Q movement.” They will do anything to prevent the mass public awakening Q is facilitating, to save their necks. They will fail.

The Q movement is not bloodthirsty, it is thirsty for justice for those with blood on their hands.

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Along with everything else that happened today (President Trump and Kim Jong-Un, and the Michael Cohen clown show), Joe Rogan interviewed Alex Jones. For some people, this upstaged ending a serious nuclear threat. For example:

:) 

I only learned about it an hour ago. Then I finally pulled the video up.

After half an hour, I had to force myself to stop watching. I couldn't take my eyes off it.

:) 

I am definitely going to finish this one.

Alex talks about his father being involved with DARPA programs, Ayahuasca, people harvesting organs from live babies (ones slated for "post birth abortion," but kept alive a lot longer than being admitted) and all kinds of things.

And Joe Rogan is right there with him. Not as mocking, but as concerned. He brings Alex back to earth at times by making him identify specific things and people when Alex goes too general, but he's doing this in a tone of respect. And he's showing genuine concern for the topics Alex is exposing and discussing.

Michael

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No agreement with NoKo. What will this mean for trade with China, Fox News asks? My own conspiracy is that Lil Kim thought he could pressure Trump because of the flak Trump is getting from the left wing media. As Dana Carvey might say,  Nope. Didn't work. Wouldn't be prudent. Tata. Sit in your shit for another year.

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A moment in time ...

 

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Styx gets it right:

He's right about Alex Jones and Joe Rogan, he's right about terror of losing money and audience being the main problem for the crony fake social media giants, and he's right about alt media being the future for independent content creators.

:) 

Incidentally, if they sick their trolls on Joe Rogan and try to get him deplatformed for interviewing Alex, I won't be surprised. These people are terrified by what Alex represents (actual free speech that they can't control and milk, free speech that grows in popularity wherever it is heard).

Michael

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On 2/21/2019 at 12:25 PM, william.scherk said:
On 11/28/2018 at 9:20 AM, william.scherk said:
On 5/13/2018 at 10:05 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

It looks like Jeffrey Epstein's money and connections will no longer be able to protect him behind a wall of secrecy. Epstein is the guy who owns the Lolita Express, his personal airplane, that has flown Bill Clinton 26 times (and other high-profile people) to a special place Epstein owns in the Virgin Islands where special things happen for his guests.

Guests and victims of a cult-like pyramid scheme to 'access' girls.

Federal prosecutors broke law in Jeffrey Epstein case, judge rules

Alan Dershowitz suggests curbing press access to hearing on Jeffrey Epstein sex abuse

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A court hearing on whether to unseal sensitive documents involving the alleged sex trafficking of underage girls by Palm Beach multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein — and the possible involvement of his influential friends — will play out in a New York City courtroom next week.

But it may happen behind closed doors, with the news media and public barred — at least in part.

An attorney for lawyer Alan Dershowitz wrote a letter to the U.S. District Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Tuesday, asking whether the media should be excluded from the proceeding because his oral arguments on behalf of his client could contain sensitive information that has been under seal.

The appeals court had not responded to his concern as of Friday, but if the hearing is closed during his lawyer’s argument, it would represent the latest in a long history of successful efforts to keep details of Epstein’s sex crimes sealed.

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Dershowitz... Epstein... 

 

And this:

 

And this:

 

I don't believe for a minute Dershowitz is a pervert, but as a lawyer of a pervert, I bet he was paid a substantial fortune (maybe is still being paid). And he is advocating in the benefit of his client.

That's why I think he is cockeyed on this issue.

Michael

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Prince William quoted: An attorney for lawyer Alan Dershowitz wrote a letter to the U.S. District Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit on Tuesday, asking whether the media should be excluded from the proceeding because his oral arguments on behalf of his client could contain sensitive information that has been under seal. The appeals court had not responded to his concern as of Friday, but if the hearing is closed during his lawyer’s argument, it would represent the latest in a long history of successful efforts to keep details of Epstein’s sex crimes sealed. end quote  

Enough of these egregious acts of covering up evil.

Look at the article below. Declare a Pope a saint? How dare those “Career Pedophiles.” At a minimum the U.S. should shun those criminals at the Vatican and convict and jail the Catholic hierarchy that sheltered their own and gave them other than priestly duties in the church as punishment for ruining the lives of American kids. Parents? Get yourselves and your kids out of that bastion of evil. Government? Do your jobs. Peter      

From the Times of Israel: Vatican to open archives on WWII-era pope accused of silence on Holocaust. Secret documents on Pius XII, who served during WWII and its aftermath, could shed light on leader widely criticized by Jews. Declaring that the church “isn’t afraid of history,” Pope Francis said Monday he has decided to open up the Vatican archives on World War II-era pope Pius XII, who has been criticized by Jews for staying silent on the Holocaust.

Francis told officials and personnel of the Vatican Secret Archives that the archive would be open to researchers starting March 2, 2020. Pius was elected pontiff on March 2, 1939, six months before World War II erupted in Europe. Pius died on October 9, 1958, at the Vatican summer residence at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome. The Vatican usually waits 70 years after the end of a pontificate to open up the relevant archives. But the Holy See has been under pressure to make the Pius XII documentation available sooner and while Holocaust survivors are still alive.

Pius has been accused by historians and Jewish groups of failing to speak out against the Holocaust, failing to commit the Church to saving Jews amid the genocide, and encouraging the conversion of Jews to Catholicism during the period. The Vatican has defended him, saying he used behind-the-scenes diplomacy to try to save lives. Francis indicated he, too, embraced that interpretation.

Pius’s actions will be scrutinized as part of efforts underway to decide if he should be declared a saint. Francis indicated that the church was confident that the papacy would withstand the findings by historians studying the archives, saying Pius was “criticized, one can say, with some prejudice and exaggeration.” “The church isn’t afraid of history, on the contrary, it loves it, and would like to love it even more, like it loves God,” Francis told staff at the archive. “Thus, with the same trust of my predecessors, I open, and entrust to researchers, this patrimony of documentation.”

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Sculley? What are the significance of the dates in Atlas Shrugged? Read what’s below Mulder. What do little o objectivist advocates in New Zealand think of the religious evil? A few short oldies for the conspiracy files. Or should I say, The X Files? Peter

From: Lindsay Reply-To: libertyloop-list PI edit Thursday April 12, 2001/ [Music - Die Fledermaus] Good afternoon, Kaya Oraaa & welcome to the Politically Incorrect Show on the free speech network, Radio Pacific, for Thursday April 12, proudly sponsored by Neanderton Nicotine Ltd., the show that says bugger the politicians & bureaucrats & all the other bossyboot busybodies who try to run our lives with our money; that stands tall for free enterprise, achievement, profit, & excellence, against the state-worshippers in our midst; that stands above all for the most sacred thing in the universe, the liberty of the human individual. [Music up, music down!]

Today's being the last show before the Easter break, I thought I'd do a sequel to my chat to God the other day - a retake of the Sermon on the Mount, since here too, I figure I can improve on the original: Blessed are the poor in spirit - when they become rich in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of earth. Blessed are they who mourn - when they get over it. Blessed are the meek - when they become self-confident, for then they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger & thirst after rights - when they do something about it, for then they shall become free. Blessed are the merciful - when they learn to discriminate, for then they shall obtain justice. Blessed are the pure in heart, since they must have been using their brains. Blessed are the peacemakers - when they learn that it doesn't come at any price. Blessed are ye when men shall revile you & persecute you & shall say all manner of evil against you falsely - when those men are Jim Anderton & Helen Clark [leading socialist politicians in New Zealand]. Blessed are the rational, the independent, the honest, the productive, the just, the proud - for theirs is the glory of man. Rejoice, & be exceeding glad, for great is your reward on earth - when you have earned it. Ye are the salt of the earth - but if the salt has lost its savor, wherewith shall it be salted? If ye become as sheeple, ye shall be trodden under the feet of politicians & bureaucrats.Be ye instead the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. Do not hide your light under a bushel, but let it so shine before men that they may see your vision of reason & freedom, & glorify it, & bring it to pass on earth.

From: Michael Hardy To: atlantis Subject: ATL: Re: Aristotle on "causal efficacy of mind" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:42:58 -0400 (EDT)  I'm inclined to agree with the passage from Aristotle that Roger Bissell quoted. (Aristotle used the Greek word "psyche".  Translators chose the word "soul".  Like the works of Aristotle, the New Testament was written in Greek, and the early Christian theologians wrote in Greek.  Did they use that same Greek word "psyche" to refer to whatever it is that theologians call the "soul"?  When Christians speak of the "soul", they don't seem to mean what people call the "psyche".  I recently read of a dogma of the Catholic church that says three of the seven sacraments leave an indelible mark on the soul that cannot be erased by anything in the natural (as opposed to supernatural) world.  They were not referring to  psychological_ effects of the sacraments.  So the use of the word "soul" to refer to that which Aristotle called the "psyche" may be misleading.) Mike Hardy

From: "Richard Lawrence" To: "Atlantis List" Subject: ATL: Re: From Today's Salon.com. Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:44:16 -0800. Michael DeVault wrote: <<This leads to a good question: What is the significance of Nov. 22? Was it a random date she picked or literarily significant (eg. Catch 22 or some other ref) or is there something special about Nov. 22 during the time she was writing the book or in history? I'd be quite surprised if it were just an arbitrary date she picked.>>

The date of greatest significance in _Atlas Shrugged_ is actually September 2. This was the date Rand started writing the novel, and several major events of story revolve around  that date: the novel begins on Sept. 2; a year later Hank and Dagny decide to go on vacation (which leads them to the motor); a year after that Jim Taggart and Cheryl Brooks get married. The climax gets underway when D'Anconia Copper is nationalized on Sept. 2, followed about a month later by the attack on Rearden Steel, when Rearden joins the strike. November 22 may simply be the date Rand picked to allow enough time for the other action to unfold before Galt delivered his speech. Richard Lawrence

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On 12/15/2018 at 9:05 AM, william.scherk said:
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Let's put it in different words. Corsi will commit propaganda excesses during a political campaign. Just like the fake news media does, in fact. He will not cave to being coerced by Robert Mueller to lie against Trump under oath.

 Corsi hired Larry Klayman, who is quite the legal character, to pursue a civil complaint

Corsi apologizes ... 

Why did he originally publish the column? 

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He wanted to make Seth Rich a hero and the quote was an ah ha moment when he saw it? I know I love it when something verifies what I have concluded. 

Trey Gowdy, little o objectivist, was filling in for Shepard Smith today on Fox. I need no other reason to keep watching Foxie.

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25 minutes ago, Peter said:

I know I love it when something verifies what I have concluded. 

Confirmation bias is its own reward ... although Objectivism suggests that conclusions should follow rational investigation.

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On Monday, pro-Trump conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi retracted a nearly year-old column published on the website Infowars, run by another notorious conspiracy peddler, Alex Jones, that promoted the unfounded claim that Rich and his brother participated in the hack of the DNC and leaked documents to WikiLeaks. In addition to the retraction, Corsi apologized to the Rich family. Around midday Monday, Infowars formally retracted the column and published an apology that mirrored Corsi’s.

Corsi’s March 5th, 2018, story was an attempt to defend Roger Stone, the now-indicted former Trump adviser, against allegations that he had advance knowledge of WikiLeaks’ plans to release thousands of emails stolen from the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in the weeks before the 2016 presidential election. Last week, Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former personal lawyer, stoked the controversy around Stone’s ties to WikiLeaks after Cohen testified that Stone told Trump in the summer of 2016 that he had spoken to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about an upcoming dump of thousands of hacked emails. (Stone and Wikileaks denied Cohen’s claim.)

In his column, Corsi promoted a theory that the DNC hack — a crime for which Special Counsel Robert Mueller later indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers — was an “inside job” by Rich. Corsi cited a Washington Times op-ed that said Seth Rich and his older brother, Aaron, had carried out the DNC hack, quoting one passage directly from the op-ed, which was written by a retired Navy admiral: “Interestingly, it is well known in the intelligence circles that Seth Rich and his brother, Aaron Rich, downloaded the DNC emails and was paid by Wikileaks for that information.”

Which leaves the Seth Rich-DNC bullshit flapping in the wind. 

 

Edited by william.scherk
Bullshitters Incorporated

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The FBI never examined the DNC server that was allegedly hacked.

The DNC refused to provide the server for examination.

They refuse to provide it for examination because they know that the examination would reveal that it was not hacked.

But the emails did get leaked, someone did that.

If it wasn’t a hack, then it was someone inside with authorized access.

Could an examination of the server disclose who did that?

We still don’t know, because, again, The Democrat Party refuses to provide for examination the server they allege was hacked.

 

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4 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Corsi is another Ann Coulter. Fake MAGA Deep State puppets.

Jon,

Corsi has been threatened and he caved. The anti-Trumpers think this kind of bullying is proof of something. (They do climate change this way, too.)

Authoritarians are like this. Why use reason when one has people in the police state who like to oppress innocents with destruction?

Notice there is no real evidence or debunked evidence, just a retraction.

Normal people are getting sick of this kind of crap.

Michael

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15 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Confirmation bias is its own reward ...

Indeed it is! Ahem.

Tee hee hee.

 

15 hours ago, william.scherk said:

... although Objectivism suggests that conclusions should follow rational investigation.

Oh, but it's not only Objectivism that suggests it. And Objectivism wasn't the first to suggest it.

It's so fricking cool that you easily understand the concept on this thread, Billy. Hopefully someday you'll be able to bring that understanding to another thread.

J

 

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Threatening behaviour ...

14 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:
19 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Corsi is another Ann Coulter. Fake MAGA Deep State puppets.

Corsi has been threatened and he caved.

 

 

Spoiler

On March 5, 2018, Infowars published an article by Dr. Jerome Corsi titled Anti-Trump Left Tries to Revive Dying ‘Russia’ Narrative by Blaming Roger Stone. In that article, Dr. Corsi alleged that Seth Rich and his brother, Aaron Rich, were involved in downloading and leaking emails from the DNC to WikiLeaks.

Dr. Corsi acknowledges that his allegations were not based upon any independent factual knowledge regarding Seth or Aaron Rich. Instead, Dr. Corsi relied primarily on, and quoted from, a column by Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) that was published in the Washington Times on March 2, 2018, but was retracted on September 30, 2018. (The Washington Times’ retraction is available here.)

It was not Dr. Corsi’s intent to rely upon inaccurate information, or to cause any suffering to Mr. Rich’s family. To that end, Dr. Corsi retracts the article and apologizes to the Rich family.
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Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails and they murdered him for it.

The feelings of his friends and family have nothing to do with anything, and so, people who cite those feelings are full of shit.

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I still say Corsi was threatened and that annuls his so-called confession. (Note - I say that and I don't even care for Corsi anymore since his spat with Roger Stone.)

Corsi wasn't retracting anything before he needed to set up a go-fund-me legal defense fund against Mueller where he was going to lose his house and everything.

Confessions under duress and torture (psychological and otherwise) bear little credibility with me.

To religious inquisitors and zealots, they are all the proof they ever need to promote their agendas. (And in the case of Mueller's defenders, these tend to be the same zealots who claim torture doesn't work.)

Michael

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