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2 hours ago, william.scherk said:

What Jones and crew have done... ... is conflate three or more things...

William,

Sometimes Alex does that and it doesn't work out.

His audience already knows this happens at times.

I mean everybody knows about Alex's sporadic excesses of zeal...

So what?

His audience expects it. Call it the price they pay to get to the good stuff that the elitists and power toadies want to keep hidden.

:) 

Michael

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3 hours ago, william.scherk said:

William: "I'm not the only one who thinks like me." 

William, William, William,

All I try to do is to keep you from erroneously, but joyously dancing in the streets as if you won something.

If you keep that up, you are going to feel worse with the midterms results than you did when President Trump got elected.

So I do this rhetoric in response to the mockery out of friendship. I care...

:) 

Don't forget, every single member of Alex's audience--er... let me put this in language you might resonate with better: every single head of all that livestock--can vote. :evil: 

Nowadays, they usually do, too.

I bet there are more of them than there are people who would like to squash them dead or confine them to the corral.

:) 

Michael

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On 5/23/2018 at 10:54 AM, william.scherk said:

David Seaman gets to plug his new project via a call-in at Infowars.  Mixing up the authorized conspiracy-deducers but hey.

Now David Seaman's anti-Qanon views are plugged by the Daily Beast. I am not making this up.  From an article called "QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy, Melts Down Over OIG Report."

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[...] In a video apparently shot from within the truck during the standoff on the bridge, the truck driver, identified by the Arizona Department of Public Safety as 30-year-old Nevada resident Matthew P. Wright, reflected that disappointment, complaining that Trump had failed to “lock certain people up.”

“We the people demand full disclosure,” Wright said, addressing Trump. “We elected you to do a duty. You said you were going to lock certain people up if you were elected. You have yet to do that. Uphold your oath.”

The driver of the armored truck fled after about an hour on the bridge and was later arrested after blowing out the truck’s tires on police spike strips. Wright has been charged with five criminal counts, including committing terrorist acts.

David Seaman, a prominent proponent of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory who has become an antagonist for QAnon believers, taunted QAnon fans after the OIG report failed to bring down Democrats.

“Q’s own idiot base will demand his head within weeks,” Seaman’s website, Fulcrum News, tweeted after the OIG report was released. “Total shameful confidence scam. Wasted a lot of folks’ time.”

Wasted a lot of imaginary gallows, one might say.

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17 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Wasted a lot of imaginary gallows, one might say.

The QAnon phenomena is quite remarkable,  and serves as a locus of sneering mockery from the usual quarters. How would a naive reader ever get a chance to sort out the bullshit from the intrigue and whoopee?

Here I have slowed down the speed of a video from Jordan Sather from yesterday (How Did I Become Interested in QAnon and Pizzagate?). In this excerpt he explains some of his thought processes when he first heard of the phenomenon.  I think this serves as an object lesson. I am not sure exactly what, but hey.

At around 1:15 Jordan mentions his "objective look at" QAnon.  Epistemology-a-go-go.

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QAnon has been hijacked and is now a source of disinformation.

It's been that for a long time.

It's like the way the Ping Pong Pizza thing was hijacked by the media and turned into a false flag of persecution so it could be debunked by the heroic big brother media. That way we can all pretend pedophilia among the elitists doesn't really exist to the extent it does.

Meanwhile, things like Operation Broken Heart stay on the back burner in the fake news media.

The article below is from yesterday, but the press release from the DOJ it is based on is from June 12.

Over 2,000 suspected pedophiles arrested; national media yawn

One might even think there is a conspiracy going on here...

Michael

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Well, it is Wednesday.  That means recycling, compost, and dump-bound refuse is put at the curb by midnight. 

It also means that a Satanic Vampire Cult is Caballing Itself All Over You. Or something. Puzzle it out ... stand up against Faye Knuze and the Deep.

Infowars!

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25 minutes ago, KorbenDallas said:

The explanation seems plausible to me.

Korben,

Not me.

Helpfully,

:)

Michael

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22 hours ago, KorbenDallas said:

How about Melania's jacket?

The explanation seems plausible to me.

 

Poor beautiful Melania. She never signed up for this. There was never any indication in her life before that she wanted to care about anything but herself and her family, just like most of the rest of us.

But there is an old British nursery saying, "Don't care was made to care."

Maybe she will learn more, willing or not, than her husband ever will. about America.

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Who needs pizza or hot dogs with walnut sauce?

The push to normalize pedophilia will continue among the intellectuals and elitists in all venues where they can get away with it.

From Breitbart:

TED Talk Organization Under Fire for Bizarre ‘Pedophilia’ Lecture

From the article:

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On May 5, medical student Mirjam Heine spoke at an independently organized TEDx Talk event at the University of Würzburg in Germany. In a description of the event, the TED Talk website explained that Heine’s would focus on her belief that pedophilia is a natural, unchangeable sexual orientation.

btw - The video of the talk is available at that link--so far, at least.

According to the lady who gave the talk, the pedophile is the real victim...

She makes a difference between pedophilia and sexual abuse of children. OK... I can go along with the distinction between urge and action. But then she claimed that most sexual abuse of children is not done by pedophiles.

In fact, to her, the guilty party when pedophiles abuse children is society. Why? For isolating pedophiles and making them feel lonely.

Watch the video if you don't believe me.

It just doesn't stop. Thank God there is strong pushback. 

But think about this. For those who think pedophilia among the elitists is a conspiracy theory, here is a direct quote from Mirjam Heine, the lady who gave the TED Talk.

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The vast majority of all pedophiles are men. About 99%. Within the male population, one to two percent are considered to be pedophiles. This translates to about 60,000,000 people worldwide. This is as much as the population of Italy or South Africa. Therefore, pedophilia is not simply an irrelevant phenomenon we can simply ignore. Chances that you know at least one pedophile are higher than that you don't know anyone.

See? For this lady, pedophilia is normal.

That means it's normal for the elitists, too. Right? More so, in fact. After all, they are the ones who can afford the hassle with law enforcement... And since they are in the halls of power, they have a better chance of dealing with law enforcement than if they were in a lower class... 

And once a pedophile joins the ruling class, the blackmail potential to use against that pedophile is baked into the gig. Pedophiles have to do the bidding of their masters or be exposed. But I doubt many mind. After all, they are surrounded by their kind. It's right at home time...

I wish I didn't feel so angry about this, but I do.

Nah...

On second thought, I'm glad I feel this angry...

Michael

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Sunday in sunny Chilliwack. Dark days in Austin Texas. "Alex Jones Rips Joe Rogan Over George Soros."  Does he 'rip him a new one'?  Is Rogan quoted, or is Rogan on the air for a chat? Are there show-notes? Does Soros Day come but once a year?

Here is Alex's rant as poetry, taken from the auto-caption Transcript. I call this one, I Don't Care About Joe Rogan.

 

I Don't Care About Joe Rogan

I could
easily go on with the system I was told
go along don't be so hard don't say
Soros is a Nazi leave the Islamist alone
do this in that and we won't block you
on iTunes and YouTube and you'll have 50
million views a week and you'll be the
biggest thing is your are the biggest
thing in politics mr. Jones I've been on
the phone with the vice president of
YouTube I was offered all that stuff I'm
not a loser that they blocked me I'm a
winner
03:36
because they blocked me I'm not trying
to be Joe Rogan a lap dog of the system
I'm trying to change the world and I'm
doing it and as for Joe since I brought
that up I meant to do this I'm going to
do it now
03:53
cue him up if you can find it I was into
it last week and I didn't do it I'm
doing it cuz I don't lose sleep over
nothing and I'm gonna losing sleep over
not saying this so I'm gonna do it right
04:01
now
04:01
kill him up saying that George Soros was
captured by the Nazis now he got it good
yo I don't care about coming on your
podcast I don't need to come on your
podcast but my point is though I know
you're as smart as I am or smarter and I
sit there and I watched you on your show
 

Cued up to Alex's re-telling of Joe's gaffe or offense or what have you. Maybe there will be show-notes next upload, maybe not. Whoever works uploading and titling Infowars output is generally pretty lazy about that.

Did Joe goof up about Soros and the Nazis?  

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On 6/20/2018 at 8:28 AM, william.scherk said:

The QAnon phenomena is quite remarkable

Indeed, it is, though remarkability is no measure of truth or whoopee.  Speaking of whoopee, look what goes on between in the darklands between hints and foreshadowing, via a nameless administrator of the Wikileaks Twitter account:

 

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Back to reality.  There is a Big Cabal, that's for sure. It's not the number of Goldman-Sachs or Wall Street lovies in the US Cabinet, but a vast conspiracy. If you feel like you cannot quite accept the lesson of Qanon or the interpretation-industry built about it, here is a video that wins plaudits from the believers.

It is well-made propaganda, and slightly more interesting and compelling than, say, Jordan Sather's, who is last among the group I follow who accepts the Q phenomena whole, kit and caboodle included.

You may want to arm yourself before watching this.  With reason, of course ...

 

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25 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Then there follows a video of Rachel Maddow...

Hmmmmm...

Er ....

As Salena Zito might say, "Did you watch the video?" 

Spoiler

[from Joe Masepoe's video page]

Many people have asked permission to share. Some want to donate or pay. Listen up: SHARE IT. I don't care if you credit it or not. Download it locally, mirror it, put it up on your own channel, whatever you want. It's not like I filmed all that footage. 

Others have asked to donate. NO. We work only for freedom. There are people taking bullets for the republic, the least we can do is scramble whatever talents we have to ensure their sacrifices are not in vain.

The good people of America, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican, White or of color, young and old, are witnessing the take-back of America from a large number of very powerful criminals who have been destroying society and the world for several decades, maybe longer. This is the greatest story of our time.

You have the choice of either scratching your head in confusion when seeing events unfold, or looking at the information provided by Q to understand the real story. These are people I trust to bring you the right information. 

Look on Twitter for:
@Jordan_Sather_
@prayingmedic
@LisaMei62
@FedupWithSwamp
@tracybeanz
@IntheMatrixxx
@_ImperatorRex_ (not a Q follower but predicts a lot accurately).
@josephmasepoes (me)

There are many others you can find too. Don't be a sheep. They want you divided. They have been working to divide us forever. It's time to wake up and experience true freedom instead of the fake kind we have been living under.

The good guys, with control over the NSA, began the Q intelligence dissemination program to invoke an online grassroots movement that came to be called "The Great Awakening". It started on underground internet channels, then moved to the mainstream. 

Q has been a fun distraction for those who follow world events and desire truth, but it is about to begin a much more important and necessary phase - keeping the public informed when the Deep State war breaks out onto the surface. By this, I mean high-profile arrests. 

Yes folks. The criminals I am referring to are famous politicians, actors, singers, CEOs and celebrities. People who have earned our trust, respect and admiration. They have done very bad things that are all fully known and documented, and they will be severely punished.

Those of us who have followed Q since the beginning will be here to help you make sense of the coming events. We are among the first to realize that our petty partisan divisions are just trivial distractions, and we are all enslaved by a hidden enemy. 

We realize that the problem was never Capitalism or Socialism, Democrat or Republican, black or white, Muslim or Christian. We know it was just very powerful criminals who had too much power and were crushing us under debt and asinine entertainment, 

Fellow slaves. It's time to buckle your seatbelt, recognize your true enemy, and embrace a new future that we all owe to the brave patriots who risked their lives to achieve this victory against the greatest force of evil the world has ever seen.

 

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6 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

As Salena Zito might say, "Did you watch the video?" 

William,

Not yet.

:)

It's a knee-jerk reaction. When I see Rachel Maddow these days, I change the channel.

I reached my quota of "muh Russians" news a few weeks ago. You know how I can tell? I talk to the TV when I see her... 

:) 

Michael

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OK,

I just saw a minute and a half of the video. It's not a Rachel Maddow video, even though she was the thumbnail.

It's a video meant to mock conspiracy theorists by showing how kooky they are or something...

(Same old, same old...)

Michael

EDIT: I don't want to get too snarky, though.

Let me add to the fun:

:) 

Michael

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3 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

OK,

I just saw a minute and a half of the video. It's not a Rachel Maddow video, even though she was the thumbnail.

It's a video meant to mock conspiracy theorists by showing how kooky they are or something...

(Same old, same old...)

Michael

EDIT: I don't want to get too snarky, though.

Let me add to the fun:

 

:) 

 

Michael

 

I don't mind admitting I  would definitely worship Satan in those circumstances ! But are they sure the guy was not an illegal immigrant?  A Florida citizen would surely have had at least one gun instead of a puny knife!

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21 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I just saw a minute and a half of the video [...]

It's a video meant to mock conspiracy theorists by showing how kooky they are or something...

I disagree. I think the video is sincerely meant to be propaganda in favour of the Qanon "Great Awakening."  But I may be wrong. What should be the hallmarks of a video "meant to mock"?  I mean, what are the criteria for judging the item this way?  What standards are applied -- so that we might apply the standards to any video proffered as "Saving the World"?

Perhaps 90 seconds is not really enough to make a reasonable judgement on this "or something."

One fun thing to do with the video is examine its elements. A visual stuck out for me, a quote from JFK (at 4:53):

jfkMisquoat.png

The question in my mind was, "Is this accurate?"  I mean, did JFK actually say this?

-- if Joe Masepoes is meaning to mock the conspiracy theories surrounding the Q phenomena, then he is playing a pretty weird game, IMHO. From the shownotes in the spoiler upthread:

21 hours ago, WSS, quoting Joe Masepoes said:

The good people of America, Left and Right, Democrat and Republican, White or of color, young and old, are witnessing the take-back of America from a large number of very powerful criminals who have been destroying society and the world for several decades, maybe longer. This is the greatest story of our time.

You have the choice of either scratching your head in confusion when seeing events unfold, or looking at the information provided by Q to understand the real story. These are people I trust to bring you the right information. 

Look on Twitter for:
@Jordan_Sather_
@prayingmedic
@LisaMei62
@FedupWithSwamp
@tracybeanz
@IntheMatrixxx
@_ImperatorRex_ (not a Q follower but predicts a lot accurately).
@josephmasepoes (me)

Here is a Joe Masepoes retweet.

-- to my Ultra Elite OL mind, this doesn't seem to be a hair different from Jon Letendre's whoopee about Trump and Q and secret hand gestures.  

So, if Jon thinks the video is the "Real Deal," should we doubt his sincerity? 

Michael, as far as I know you haven't come out with any commentary on the Qanon phenomena.  Do you actually have an opinion on it, or is the whole thing uninteresting to you?  (of course, there are other alternative answers, so the two options are not exhaustive).

There is a split among folks who had at one time bet the farm on Qanon being a real Q-level insider from the Trump administration. The split in 'red-pilled' people hinges on whether or not Qanon is a Deep Faye psy-op.  Some, like David Seaman, have bailed from the Qanon boat. So has Alex Jones, more or less, and so has Jerome Corsi -- though he has waffled here and there (his Youtube offerings are sometimes a freaking hour and half long). 

What is a thoroughly rational Objectivish approach to Qanon and attendant phenomena?

BONUS discernment offering:

Spoiler

illuminatiRexMonarchMindControl.png

Free-wheeling at the Rally for Qanon ...

 

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38 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

I disagree. I think the video is sincerely meant to be propaganda in favour of the Qanon "Great Awakening."

William,

I expressed myself poorly.

I didn't mean the video was a parody or expose. I meant you--you, William--presented it as an example of the tin-foil-hat stuff you like to laugh at.

Reread my post and you will see this meaning underpins it.

:)

Michael

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Last Christmas Q said our military was engaged in a very important, deadly, game-changing operation. He didn’t say where or what to my knowledge. He asked for prayers for those in harm’s way.

At that same time, (and it’s still there for all I know, but it doesn’t matter to me, because it was there,) the Department of Defense’s Twitter feed posted an article titled “Four major US military operations in history have occurred on Christmas Day”

The article jumped right in: “1. Washington crosses the Potomac and slaughters Hessians in their sleep.”

Then, 2, a battle during the Civil War, then 3. I don’t recall the battle. There was no story number four. It ended after describing the third event,

There have been dozens of such confirmations. No one of them is sufficient by itself.

I don’t know why it should be hard to accept that admin insiders are sharing truths.

Billyboy and other deranged leftists are desperate for everyone to believe Q is a teenager in a basement and they act like it’s absurd that Q could be admin insiders. It’s not absurd, obviously. Their desperation to debunk a teenager in a basement is a little strange. I don’t believe it’s what they believe.

https://qanon.pub/

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