Rigging the 2016 Presidential Election


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4 hours ago, Peter said:

What were the hidden messages in Bambi and Pinnocchio, Jon? Bambi does start out with a horrible scene where hunters kill everything alive in the forest but that message is not hidden. Yesterday I watched the trailer for Bambi with my granddaughter so it is still vivid to me.  Of course there are always "messages" and slants in a lot of news and entertainment, but to adopt a mentality that sees conspiracies everywhere is a waste of time and not sensible. It is not objective. If you were an investigative reporter you would rarely sell a story to a strictly truth searching editor.

Again, it is fun in fiction like in the movie Contact. "Sparks" can't solve the meaning of the alien message but the billionaire eccentric does.      

No, no. I mean Baer's paychecks, they're signed by Disney. He didn't tell you?

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Ohh I dunno?  What names did Father McJonrape call you as you sucked his dick in his special room?  

I already did.  When are you going to tell us your childhood adventures in the toolshed with your many abusers.  Or how about the many years of therapy you went through?  Or or or.. how much ammo you

McRae Dowless has been indicted.

 

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Each and every person found guilty of subverting elections should be hung in front of their state capital.

Starting with the NC election is fine by me.

Like McConnell I celebrate Democrats finally being on board even if they’re not going to like where else this goes.

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Is the evidence of 'massive voter fraud' examinable?

Is the evidence of fraud in play?

Is it illicit reasoning to ask for evidence, warrant, supporting arguments, details?

Emphases added.

12 hours ago, Brant Gaede said:
14 hours ago, caroljane said:

Do you think the Dems are so powerful they could organize a voter fraud without being detected, before, during or after the election? It is still a long time away - Trump still has 2 years of  action and voter fraud is one of his top priorities . 

Do you think that his support will be strong enough, whatever issues arise in the meantime not making any difference, that the only way he would lose re-election could be by fraud?

Vote fraud in Texas and Illinois elected the Kennedy-Johnson ticket in 1960.

Massive vote fraud has made California a state completely dominated by the Democrat Party.

If not for the Electoral College California would have made that criminal bitch Hillary President. Whether the Electoral College will do the same next time is problematic. It could give the Senate to the Dems.

I find your naivete hard to get my brain around.

What is naive about requesting warrants for a claim?

It's clear or mostly clear that Brant believes in a massive vote fraud in California.  What isn't clear is the argument.

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The dang North Carolina investigations continue. They sure have stick-to-it-ive-ness ... unlike in some "cases" noted above.

Federal grand jury issues subpoenas in N.C. election fraud investigation.

Spoiler

60,000 (sealed) Indictments. Wouldn't it be grand if some of them were unsealed on a country-wide scale, finally crushing out the remnant hinkyness that is thought by some to pervade election systems in the USA?

On Twitter today I over-used the notion that the punditzenpollsters are getting waaaaay out in front of the actual games in the actual election season, using  how many days remain until (they) post caucus results in the great state of Iowa.

Some opinion marketeers, public opinion 'experts' and polling wonks are trying to make Excitement out whether Biden or Sanders will likely take Iowa, given the (scant) surveys done on prospective voters there.

Skeptical folks point out that recency effects and name-recognition -- and the loooong stretch of time before the events take place -- make the surveys uninterpretable or useless for betting on which Democrat will seize the most precincts in three hundred and twenty-seven days. Foxtrot Foxtrot Sierra.

I put in a plug for a fanatical balloting wonk on Twitter, Jennifer Cohn, who is raising a hue and cry about a new generation of voting machines -- the so-called 'paper ballot' producers -- which include, Cohn says, a non-voter-verifiable barcode and which also lack transparency about programming that is exploitable.

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See a description of the machine within a story out of NPR-Georgia, "A Look At Machines That Could Replace Georgia’s Aging Voting System."  The ES&S (Elections Systems and Software) may win the Georgia contract. It is seen as the least transparent of the offerings, and a target of Cohn's special ire:

Tomorrow, Georgia’s SAFE Commission will conduct a meeting to approve the
replacement of the state’s terrible touchscreen voting system with a new
terrible touchscreen voting system called the ExpressVote. This system
generates computer-marked paper printouts (many call them “paper ballots”)
with barcodes that are then counted on scanners. Although these paper
printouts include human readable text purporting to summarize the voter’s
selections, the barcode, which humans can’t read, is the only part of the
printout actually counted by the scanner. According to Computer Science
Professor Richard DeMillo (Georgia Institute of Technology), the barcode
constitutes a new potential attack vector for malevolent actors, as it can
be manipulated to instruct the scanner to flip or otherwise alter votes.

More info on the machine and the system it works with at Verified Voting: Election Systems and Software (ES&S) ExpressVote

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On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

1.7Misrecording of votes

... could be an issue in more than one jurisdiction. Jennifer Cohn has been beating the drum for some time that "ballot marking systems" are not all the same, with various levels of voter security. See her Medium post today to get wind of the dangers ...

Georgia: The Epicenter of America’s Corrupted Electronic Elections.

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On August 7, 2018, the plaintiffs in the federal action titled Donna Curling, et al. v. Brian Kemp, et al., filed a motion for a preliminary injunction to enjoin the state of Georgia from using its paperless touchscreen voting machines in the November midterm elections. As explained in the lawsuit, when voting machines are paperless, there is no independent record of voter intent with which to confirm the legitimacy of an electronic vote tally. Thus, according to the plaintiffs, the state must instead allow voters to hand mark paper ballots at the polls.

The court denied the motion. It reasoned that although the plaintiffs are likely to win on the merits of their claim that Georgia’s paperless machines are unconstitutional, it would cause too much “chaos” and “confusion” to switch to paper ballots at this late date.

The article below discusses the Georgia 6th District special election of 2017, which was the catalyst for the Georgia paper ballot suit, as well as the disturbing history of Georgia’s corrupted electronic elections from 2002 through the present.

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On 2/27/2019 at 9:09 AM, william.scherk said:

[McCrae] Dowless has been indicted.

And just turned himself in for booking ...

 

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On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

1.10Tampering with electronic voting machines

Researchers Assembled over 100 Voting Machines. Hackers Broke Into Every Single One

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A report issued Thursday by some of the country’s leading election security experts found that voting machines used in dozens of state remain vulnerable to hacks and manipulations, warning that that without continued efforts to increase funding, upgrade technology, and adopt of voter-marked paper ballot systems, “we fear that the 2020 presidential elections will realize the worst fears only hinted at during the 2016 elections: insecure, attacked, and ultimately distrusted.”

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First incorporated into DefCon in 2017 with the aim of improving voting machine security, this year’s version of the now-annual “Voting Machine Hacking Village” assembled over 100 machines and let hackers loose to find and exploit their vulnerabilities. While election officials have criticized the effort’sutility as a testing ground, deriding it as a “pseudo environment,” some have seen value in letting machines’ flaws become more known and potentially lead to security improvements.

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AP Explains: Congress' fight over election security bills

See also the Sage of Vermont ...

 

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Justice grinds on in the Hillary Clinton email server scandal (which was part of the 2016 election rigging in favor of Hillary Clinton).

People who received and sent emails that went through the email server, and whose emails were copied to it or even to a specific relevant Gmail address, are now being sent letters from the State Department saying they may bear some culpability in security breaches.

And all are pissed.

Clinton Emailers Rattled After State Department Fires Off 'Culpability Letters' For Homebrew Server Messages

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The State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security has finally finished sifting through millions of emails from Hillary Clinton's controversial 'basement server' - many of which were classified, and/or blind-copied to a Gmail address bearing the name of a Chinese company according to intelligence community inspector general (ICIG) Frank Rucker. 

While State Department investigators began contacting former officials around 18 months ago, the probe actually began under President Obama. In recent weeks, the State Department has contacted approximately 130 officials whose emails which went through Clinton's special server have been retroactively classified and may now pose potential security violations, according to the Washington Post. 

"This has nothing to do with who is in the White House," said a senior State Department official. "This is about the time it took to go through millions of emails, which is about 3½ years."

The flood of letters which began in August read "You have been identified as possibly bearing some culpability" regarding "security incidents," according to the report. 

If the Washington culture is good at anything, it is good at rats leaving sinking ships.

When this crap was only about the big guys, a lot of people had a lot of mouth. Now that it is touching the rats, they are bailing. 

:) 

Michael

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On 5/3/2019 at 5:44 PM, william.scherk said:
On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

1.7Misrecording of votes

... could be an issue in more than one jurisdiction. Jennifer Cohn has been beating the drum for some time that "ballot marking systems" are not all the same, with various levels of voter security.

2020 is going to be LIT!

 

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On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

[...] electoral/voter fraud in the USA. 

Maybe there will be some detail from the campaign that helps 'election auditors' zero in on the likeliest fraudulent mechanisms, at the particular weak areas. An effective warning can help prevent fraud and chicanery. 

Detail?

 

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Public service announcement. Shoals ahead? I say skeptical shields up, Objectivist tools at the ready.

It's another intersection of malice and recklessness. I hope cool, sober heads prevail, as misinformation and "active measures" have primed some of the primal urges already.

 

 

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William,

Just a suggestion.

Step outside of CNN people for your information.

psssst... CNN people lie.

:) 

Asha Rangappa is a CNN analyst in addition to being a former FBI agent. 

The crap I saw her posting on Twitter is already laying the groundwork to start "muh Russians" all over again. And she pumped a WaPo article right where she tweeted this Alert basically saying AG Barr is President Trump's flunky and will use the Justice Department in an inappropriate political manner to ensure Trump gets reelected.

Also, I'm not worried about the PSA Alert. It was probably written by some Deep State holdover. The job of the FBI and CISA are to enforce the law, not worry about what the public thinks during the vote-counting process.

Believe it or not, that's all the Alert is about.

It basically said there's gonna be a lot of fake news while the votes are being counted. And it jazzed up the Alert with jargon and insinuations and lots and lots of CYA.

Ho hum...

Michael

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1 hour ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

It basically said there's gonna be a lot of fake news while the votes are being counted.

It's like taking the ferry to Cape May to work your way to Atlantic City on a windy, rocky day.  
 

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12 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

...Twitter is already laying the groundwork to start "muh Russians" all over again.

Yeah, muh Russians! Muh Covington kids!! Muh 'Nazis are very fine people'!!! Muh 'All Mexicans are animals'!!!! Muh 97% of real, verified, actual, true climate scientists agree that we need socialism if we want to survive the Doom™!!!!! Muh 'dead soldiers are loser and suckers'!!!!!!

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On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

1.11Voter impersonation

What is going on with purported "ballot harvesting" in Minnesota? Where on the numbered list do the allegations from Project Veritas fit?

Trump seizes on conservative group's claim of fraud in Minneapolis election

Looking at "harvesting" allegation in council election would fall to MPD, Hennepin County. 

By Briana Bierschbach and Miguel Otárola Star Tribune staff writers

September 29, 2020 — 5:17am

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Republicans argue that Project Veritas’ report represents evidence of ballot harvesting, or allowing third parties to collect ballots and turn them into polling locations. It is legal in Minnesota to assist up to three individuals in turning in their ballots under special circumstances.

A district-court ruling on July 28 temporarily struck down that limit, making it legal for a period of time during the primary election for an individual to collect an unlimited number of ballots and turn them in to election officials. The Minnesota Supreme Court reinstated the three-person limit in a Sept. 4 ruling.

Omar Jamal, a Somali political operative, told Veritas that he believes ballot harvesters in the community are hired and take advantage of elderly community members and that Fifth District U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar is connected to the alleged election fraud. However neither he nor the videos provide any direct evidence that this is true. Jamal did not immediately return a Star Tribune request for comment.

“The amount of truth to this story is equal to the amount Donald Trump paid in taxes of 10 out of the last 15 years: zero,” Omar spokesman Jeremy Slevin said in a statement. “And amplifying a coordinated right-wing campaign to delegitimize a free and fair election this fall undermines our democracy.”

But by Monday morning several conservative media outlets had picked up the Veritas story and Trump had tweeted or retweeted Project Veritas’ connection to the congresswoman five times, saying he hoped the U.S. attorney in Minnesota had “her many misdeeds, under serious review.”

Project Veritas has tried to plant fake stories with news organizations in the past and has been accused of manipulating video footage. “Project Veritas is a discredited, far-right propaganda outfit known for lying, entrapment, and breaking the law,” DFL Party Ken Martin said in a statement.

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Hennepin County officials say it would be up to local law enforcement agencies to investigate the sort of allegations being made by Project Veritas and then bring them forward for charges. The County Attorney’s Office usually files a dozen or so cases involving some type of election violations, primarily felons voting despite still being on probation.

See the fluid discussion in OL's "Mail-In Voting as Path to the Suicide of Freedom" thread.

 

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On 8/2/2016 at 10:41 AM, william.scherk said:

1.2Intimidation

Conservative hoaxers face felony charges over robocalls

Jacob Wohl, 22, and Jack Burkman, 54, each face four felony counts in Detroit

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Jacob Wohl, 22, and Jack Burkman, 54, each face four felony counts in Detroit, including conspiring to intimidate voters in violation of election law and using a computer to commit crimes, Attorney General Dana Nessel said.

The calls falsely warned residents in majority-Black Detroit and urban areas in at least four other states that voting by mail in the Nov. 3 election could subject people to arrest, debt collection and forced vaccination, Nessel said.

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6 hours ago, william.scherk said:

 Who's been a bad boy?

On 8/2/2016 at 12:41 PM, william.scherk said:

1.2Intimidation

Conservative hoaxers face felony charges over robocalls

Jacob Wohl, 22, and Jack Burkman, 54, each face four felony counts in Detroit

William,

This is great news.

It can set a precedent where the government can throw political hoaxers in jail.

I wonder what charges, say, a 4 year nationwide political hoax would be brought against perpetrators.

:evil: 

Michael

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Is this a useful essay? Did China help rig the South Korean election?
 

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A recently released independent report, Fraud in South Korea’s April 2020 Elections: It Probably Happened and is a Big Deal for the United States [link added/wss], by Grant Newsham, a retired Marine Colonel and former reserve head of intelligence for Marine Forces Pacific, details some of the alleged methods used as well as the indications of inconsistencies in results.

They include Electronic Counting Machines (ECM) and/or attached computers containing Huawei components; the National Election Commission server allegedly “protected” by a Huawei firewall; early voting ballots printed with QR codes, making them easy to manipulate which is why the practice is banned in some jurisdictions; serious chain of custody issues for early vote ballots; a large number of unexplained fires at election-related centers; and much more.

The combined outcome was a massive, surprising win for President Moon Jae-in’s party in an election with results that seemed so statistically improbable that the former head of the highly prestigious Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology said “either God did it or it was rigged”.

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As I understood it, the "massive, surprising win" was prefigured in public opinion surveys.

On the other hand,  "S. Korea governor jailed for election opinion rigging."

donald trump GIF by The New Yorker."

 

 

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