it begins...

[moralist]

By the way, tonight there will be a truly spectacular total lunar eclipse. It is the fourth of the Blood Moon series of four over the last two years... and millions of Muslim males are pouring out of the Middle East...

...quite literally an invasion.

Greg

[BaalChatzaf]

By the way, tonight there will be a truly spectacular total lunar eclipse. It is the fourth of the Blood Moon series of four over the last two years... and millions of Muslim males are pouring out of the Middle East...

...quite literally an invasion.

Greg

The Shoe has Dropped. Greg has mentioned the Blood Moon Tetrad which is superstitious bull shit.

The blood moon is an effect of refraction of sunlight. It has nothing to do with End Times or Terrible Things.

Ba'al Chatzaf

[moralist]

Three Blood Moon Tetrads ago... America was discovered.

Two Blood moon tetrads ago... Israel reclaimed its land.

One Blood Moon Tetrad ago... Israel reclaimed Jerusalem.

Yeah, Bob... correlation is not causation.

Greg

[Peter]

Yeah, Greg. The sky is falling! Your inclusion of a wink does not mean you are excused for your bad predictions.

Ahead of rare ‘blood moon’ Sunday night, NASA says no cause for concern, Some Christian leaders believe God sending signs in the sky, but Mormon church has told faithful to avoid ‘getting caught up in visions of disaster’ BY TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF AND AP September 27, 2015, 3:45 pm. With a rare confluence of a lunar eclipse and a super moon on Sunday-Monday prompting talk in some Christian circles of an impending apocalypse, NASA has reassured those who may be worried that no large object is likely to strike the Earth in the next few hundred years. Last week, the Mormon Church felt compelled to issue a statement cautioning the faithful to not get caught up in speculation about a major calamity.

The internet has been awash with forecasts, from cataclysmic catastrophes to the Rapture, as a fourth lunar eclipse in two years — the series is known as a tetrad — fall on the first night of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot. The first three instances of the current tetrad have already occurred on Jewish holidays, on April 15, 2014 (Passover) and October 8, 2014 (Sukkot) and April 4, 2015 (again on Passover). Some Christians believe the celestial event could mark the start of disaster, based on a passage from the Book of Joel, which reads: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord comes.”

Irvin Baxter, who runs Endtime Ministries in Plano, Texas, was quoted by the UK’s Guardian on Sunday saying that God often uses “the heavens” to send signs to mankind, pointing out that the three wise men were led to the birthplace of the baby Jesus by a star. “There are several prophecies foretelling that the moon will be turned to blood in the endtime,” he said.

He also warned that previous tetrads have had stark consequences for the Jews. “The Spanish inquisition took place before the tetrad of 1493-94. The tetrad of 1949-50 occurred just after the founding of Israel. The tetrad of 1967-1968 occurred as the Six-Day War was fought in Jerusalem,” the Guardian report reported him saying. “The current tetrad, Baxter predicts, will precede the signing of a peace agreement between Israel and Palestine. This, in turn, will ‘mark the beginning of the Final Seven Years to Armageddon and the Second Coming of Jesus to the earth’.”
end quack

Remember the real life character in “A Beautiful Mind?” He could look at disconnected events, newspaper clippings, etc., and see patterns. He was crazy.
Peter

[Selene]

And Lenin's Pope is speaking to 1,000,000 Catholics in the city of our founding in the evening...think he is not going to milk that celestial device in his rhetoric tonight?

[Jules Troy]

The only thing interesting about tonight's blood moon is it is also a super moon and will appear to be 30% larger. If it is not overcast I plan on photographing it.

[Peter]

I found this oldie and edited it for brevity. I would also like to add my disdain for bogus patterns, certainties, and revelations.
Peter

The Seven Warning Signs of Bogus Science, The Chronicle of Higher Education, By ROBERT L. PARK, Robert L. Park is a professor of physics at the University of Maryland at College Park and the director of public information for the American Physical Society. He is the author of Voodoo Science: The Road From Foolishness to Fraud (Oxford University Press, 2002).


1. The discoverer pitches the claim directly to the media. The integrity of science rests on the willingness of scientists to expose new ideas and findings to the scrutiny of other scientists. Thus, scientists expect their colleagues to reveal new findings to them initially. An attempt to bypass peer review by taking a new result directly to the media, and thence to the public, suggests that the work is unlikely to stand up to close examination by other scientists.

2. The discoverer says that a powerful establishment is trying to suppress his or her work . . . . Claims that the oil companies are frustrating the invention of an automobile that runs on water, for instance, are a sure sign that the idea of such a car is baloney. In the case of cold fusion, Pons and Fleischmann blamed their cold reception on physicists who were protecting their own research in hot fusion.

3. The scientific effect involved is always at the very limit of detection. Alas, there is never a clear photograph of a flying saucer, or the Loch Ness monster. All scientific measurements must contend with some level of background noise or statistical fluctuation. But if the signal-to-noise ratio cannot be improved, even in principle, the effect is probably not real and the work is not science. Thousands of published papers in para-psychology, for example, claim to report verified instances of telepathy, psychokinesis, or precognition. But those effects show up only in tortured analyses of statistics. The researchers can find no way to boost the signal, which suggests that it isn't really there.

4. Evidence for a discovery is anecdotal. If modern science has learned anything in the past century, it is to distrust anecdotal evidence.

5. The discoverer says a belief is credible because it has endured for centuries.

6. The discoverer has worked in isolation. The image of a lone genius who struggles in secrecy in an attic laboratory and ends up making a revolutionary breakthrough is a staple of Hollywood's science-fiction films, but it is hard to find examples in real life. Scientific breakthroughs nowadays are almost always syntheses of the work of many scientists.

7. The discoverer must propose new laws of nature to explain an observation. A new law of nature, invoked to explain some extraordinary result, must not conflict with what is already known. If we must change existing laws of nature or propose new laws to account for an observation, it is almost certainly wrong.

[Selene]

FYI for the Eastern Time Zone...

The eclipse will begin at 9:07 p.m. Eastern time, as the Earth’s shadow moves across the moon, according to the association. At 10:11 p.m., the entire moon should be in the Earth’s shadow, at which point it will adopt the reddish color. It will remain fully in the shadow until 11:23 p.m., and the eclipse will end at 12:27 a.m.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/science/super-blood-moon-to-make-last-appearance-until-2033.html

[moralist]

Peter writes:

Yeah, Greg. The sky is falling! Your inclusion of a wink does not mean you are excused for your bad predictions.

Peter, I'm sorry if you suffered any personal harm from a prediction that didn't come to pass. I didn't. My sky can't fall because I have no investments in the debt system anyways so it doesn't really matter.

You can keep your excused as I don't need it. You are free to hold it against me for as long as you want.

Greg

[moralist]

Peter writes:

I would also like to add my disdain for bogus patterns, certainties, and revelations.

You didn't believe it was a pattern in 1492 America, or 1948 Israel, or the 2001 Islamic attack, or the 2008 debt collapse...

...so 2015 certainly didn't change the view that you've always held. It didn't change mine either.

Greg

[Jules Troy]

I don't have high hopes tonight Adam it's rather overcast in my area atm.

[moralist]

By the time the Moon rises over the mountains here, it'll already be fully occulted, although high clouds are moving in so we might not see it too.

We can always see it on the internet.

Greg

[BaalChatzaf]

Three Blood Moon Tetrads ago... America was discovered.

Two Blood moon tetrads ago... Israel reclaimed its land.

One Blood Moon Tetrad ago... Israel reclaimed Jerusalem.

Yeah, Bob... correlation is not causation.

Greg

Now consider the thousands of Tetrads when nothing special happened....

[moralist]

Now consider the thousands of Tetrads when nothing special happened....

The Blood Moon Tetrads to which I was referring were only the ones which fell on the Jewish High Holy Days.

There were 4 lunar eclipses in 32AD-33AD around the time of Jesus' crucifixion, but it didn't count because the eclipses were only partial.

Since then have been only seven other Tetrads in 2,000 years where all four lunar eclipses were total, and where all four fell on the Jewish High Holy Days.

The Council on Foreign Relations estimates over 464,000 Muslims have entered Europe by sea just so far this year... and that is not counting the ones who entered on land.

So Bob... if you think this unprecedented invasion of Europe by Muslims is nothing special and is of no historical consequence, you're fucking crazy.

Greg

[william.scherk]

The Council on Foreign Relations estimates over 464,000 Muslims have entered Europe by sea just so far this year... and that is not counting the ones who entered on land.

The Council on Foreign Relations' Backgrounder series item is called Europe's Migration Crisis. This is the source of the number Greg bolds, with emphasis added:

Where do these migrants and refugees come from?

Political upheaval in the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia is reshaping migration trends in Europe. The number of illegal border-crossing detections in the EU started to surge in 2011, as thousands of Tunisians started to arrive at the Italian island of Lampedusa following the onset of the Arab Spring. Sub-Saharan Africans who had previously migrated to Libya followed in 2011–2012, fleeing unrest in the post-Qaddafi era. The most recent surge in detections along the EU's maritime borders has been attributed to the growing numbers of Syrian, Afghan, and Eritrean migrants and refugees.

The IOM estimates that more than 464,000 migrants have crossed into Europe by sea for the first nine months of 2015. Syrians fleeing their country's four-and-a-half-year-old civil war made up the largest group (39 percent). Afghans looking to escape the ongoing war with Taliban rebels (11 percent), and Eritreans fleeing forced labor (7 percent) made up the second and third largest groups of migrants, respectively. Deteriorating security and grinding poverty in Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, Somalia, and Sudan have also contributed to the migrant influx.

Greg must have mighty powers of clairvoyance to support his notion that all the 464,000 migrants, to a man, are Muslim.

So Bob... if you think this unprecedented invasion of Europe by Muslims is nothing special and is of no historical consequence, you're fucking crazy.

The "You're fucking crazy" identifies all sea-borne human movement to Europe as an 'invasion,' fair enough. "You're fucking crazy" ties this invasion to Blood Moon Tetrads, which is loony hooey, in my opinion. "Fucking crazy" man can take comfort that one Walid Shoebat has done the necessary homework. See BOMBSHELL: The Antichrist Is Sending A Flood Of Muslim Migrants Into Europe To Destroy Christianity (Bible Prophecy Being Fulfilled)

This is the good stuff for the god-whacked and prophecy-bent. "Fucking Crazy" man will find it a veritable wellspring of portents, prophecies and general hooey.

-- what is probably not apparent to Greg is that one can quite well see and identify 'unprecedented' and of 'historic' proportions when looking at the European crisis. Bob can agree that the migration is unusual, "special," and agree that it will have historical consequences. So Greg is mistaken to ascribe to Bob a position he does not hold.

The mistake is in the argument. One can fully believe that the 'invasion' will have historic consequences, and yet at the same time have no belief that moon and sun and earth are 'giving signs' and witnessing a godly plan.

Who is "fucking crazy"? The one who believes two impossible things at one time, or the one who dispenses with astrology in his historical reckoning?

I'll leave this with an excerpt from Shoebat's bombshell whoopee exegesis. There is plenty for Greg to snack on and keep this thread going for a long, long time.

To comprehend all this, we need to journey in the Bible to unlock other symbols. What is on the horizon is yet another “sign” from Revelation 12 where the woman wars with: “an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads”. Its tail will “sweep a third of the stars out of the sky and will fling them to the earth”.

The connect between the Muslim migrants stemming today from Turkey and “the flood” stemming from the dragon, is key to unlocking the riddle. This “red dragon” is the source of the flood. Today no one argues, this flood of immigrants are stemming from all Muslim nations, like rivulets, into Turkey, where from there, they “flood” into Europe, the heart of the western church which is the promise by Islam; to first invade Constantinople (Turkey) then Rome (Europe).

John is clear, there is a “moon” resembling “the devil” and the “dragon” where other places in Scripture identify it as “crescent” (Isaiah 14, Judges 8, Isaiah 44-45). Also, when it comes to the Book of Revelation John predicted that an Antichrist will arise who resurrects “an image” (an emblem) of a wounded empire:

“He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.” (Revelation 13:14)

Edited September 28, 2015 by william.scherk

[moralist]

Those who can... do.

Those who can't... google.

Greg

[Jules Troy]

Oh look the markets have not collapsed! Perhaps Greg meant plus or minus 50 years after the super sh it'a blood moon...

[Brant Gaede]

It's a slo-mo bear market, but that wasn't the forecast.

--Brant

and the time is two weeks expired

[moralist]

Jules writes:

Oh look the markets have not collapsed! Perhaps Greg meant plus or minus 50 years after the super sh it'a blood moon...

Yeah, maybe it'll be the next one.

No one has noticed this yet...

...but America just suffered another catastrophic loss in this latest Shemitah.

1. In 2001, America lost its moral physical protection.

2. In 2008, America lost its moral financial providence.

3. In 2015, America lost its moral authority to lead the world.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/29/obama-has-turned-putin-into-the-worlds-most-powerful-leader/

So there you have it, folks.

Three for three.

Greg

[Selene]

Who just joined Greg by saying this?

The new feminized Democratic Party says, That's too bad about those steelworkers in Ohio losing their jobs, but THERE'S A WOMAN AT A LAW FIRM IN NEW YORK CITY WHO DESERVES TO MAKE PARTNER!

[moralist]

I have no idea, Adam.

But it indeed has begun... just not what anyone thought it would be.

World War III

This is greater than 2001 and 2008.

Right now Russia is bombing our allies in Syria who are fighting against Assad and ISIS. Russia is also drafting 150,000 men into their military in preparation to sending ground troops into Syria.

Every 7th Shemitah there is a Jubilee year.

The last Jubilee was the Israeli 6 Day War.

And the Jubilee before it was WWI.

Greg

[Brant Gaede]

I have no idea, Adam.

But it indeed has begun... just not what anyone thought it would be.

World War III

This is greater than 2001 and 2008.

Right now Russia is bombing our allies in Syria who are fighting against Assad and ISIS. Russia is also drafting 150,000 men into their military in preparation to sending ground troops into Syria.

Every 7th Shemitah there is a Jubilee year.

The last Jubilee was the Israeli 6 Day War.

And the Jubilee before it was WWI.

Greg

"It has begun" only means you will not stop.

There are always data to support your goofy propositions--what they are hardly matters--because there are nearly 200 countries and 7 billion people on earth. Since you aggressively eschew reason and cherry pick data--is it all real data?--why are you bothering dropping this crap on us? It belongs on a Christian end-of-the-world-go-to-the-top-of-the-mountain-to-meet-Jesus site. At least that wouldn't be trolling.

--Brant

you gotta be you

[moralist]

Brant writes:

"It has begun" only means you will not stop.

Why should an opinion about the timing of the beginning of World War Three bother you? You're free to deny that WWIII is "real data" and that doesn't bother me one bit.

As events unfold, they will show which one of our opinions is right.

Greg

[Selene]

I have no idea, Adam.

Greg

It is from Ann Coulter's newest column which is brilliant as usual.

This led up to that sentence:

So in 1965 -- 50 years ago this week -- Sen. Ted Kennedy passed an immigration law that has brought 59 million foreigners to our shores, who happen to vote 8-2 for the Democrats.

Democrats haven't won any arguments; they changed the voters. If anything, the Democrats have stopped bothering to appeal to Americans.

As she notes:

As Pew Research cheerfully reports, previous immigrants were "almost entirely" European. But since Kennedy's immigration act, a majority of immigrants have been from Latin America. One-quarter are from Asia. Only 12 percent of post-1965-act immigrants have been from Europe -- and they're probably Muslims.

This should make Americans take notice:

In 1960, there were about 200,000 Muslims in the U.S., according to a study in the International Journal of Environmental Science and Development. Today, the U.S. census estimates that there are more than 6 million Muslims here. Muslims are expected to surpass Jews as the second-largest religion in America in about two decades.

Prior to common core math, that would represent an increase of thirty times [30X] in the Muslim population in approximately in 5 and 1/2 decades...

Here is good negative piece of evidence:

Democratic political strategists Ruy Teixeira and John Judis have been gloating for 20 years about how post-1965 immigration would soon produce a country where Republicans could not win an election, anywhere. Then Democrats could do whatever they want. They called the new emerging majority "George McGovern's Revenge."

In today's America, George McGovern would be a moderate Democrat; Jimmy Carter would be a two-term president; and we'd be holding primary debates at the Walter Mondale Presidential Museum and Library.

Congrats America and your direct reward is:

The Democrats got the voters -- and the country got 9/11, Fort Hood, the Boston Marathon bombing, clitorectomies, an explosion of gang rapes, child rapes, sex tourism, slavery, voodoo, Russell Brand, billions of taxpayer dollars stolen in Medicare and Medicaid scams, an epidemic of heroin deaths, soccer, bankrupt school districts and hospitals, overcrowded prisons, and endless tax hikes to pay for all the immigrant services, as small town after small town goes all-Mexican, or all-Somali or all-Hmong.

Concluding, she explains:

I know it's gauche to consider what Americans want, but how about the immigrants? Presumably some didn't come only for the welfare, crime and terrorism opportunities. They decided to move to the United States -- not Mexico or Somalia or China -- because they wanted to live in America. If our current immigration policies aren't stopped, they're going to wonder why they bothered.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-09-30.html#read_more

[jts]

Bob writes:

Define imminent.

Extremely likely this week.

Definitely this month.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Greg

Today is October 1. What happened?