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50 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

What does one make of this? People are intent on finding the "gotcha!" in this, but this is gobbledy-gook legalise, to me...(I'm not a tax expert...)

"Payroll tax" is the ~16% FICA gouge they hide half of, by pretending your boss pays it.
It's 36% of the overall take ("revenue"), to fund the "mandatory" 2/3 of the annual blow ("expenditures"). The balance, of course, they print. He's definitely pandering."

Does Trump's order mean that employees will get more in the paychecks, or not?

 

It means employees will get more in their paychecks.

Yes, 16% is due. So if the pay to an employee is $100, then the gov't wants $16.

Yes, the employer pays $8 of that and the other half is taken out of the employee's check, and then the $16 is forwarded to the gov't.

(And, yes, it is fair to say that in actual fact the employees are the ones paying all $16, if we track the consequences carefully.)

Trump's order says the employer will no longer have to forward $16, but only their half, $8. He is not giving employers a holiday for their half, but only the employees, for theirs.

So, unless they want to go viral, the employers will stop taking the $8 from the employee's checks.

Once made permanent after his re-election the overall effect will be to cut this tax in half.

(It will still be true that employees really are the ones paying it, as it comes out of the higher rate of wages they would be getting in the absence of the tax.)

But that doesn't change or diminish the fact that the overall effect will be to cut this tax in half.

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It is intriguing.  I've been fairly obsessed for about a year with thinking about details.  I find microbiology fascinating. I wouldn't be wise, however, to talk about details.  The schemers are

That's what it says at the top of the page.  Your point?  It's not like this thread has devolved into a medley of cat videos.  Yet.  

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13 minutes ago, ThatGuy said:

I just had heard good things about him from a friend of mine who had met him.

TG,

If Amash is eligible for the $1200 or $3400 and receives it, let's see if he gives it back.

Principles, you know...

:evil:

btw - For anyone worried about the morality of getting this free money from the government. well the government did down large swaths of production in the country. Besides, morality went out the window with the government ages ago. Even more besides, where did the free money come from? The very same people who are now getting it. Taxpayers.

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I'm not going to keep double-posting, but later readers might like this post in this thread.

18 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

I probably should say this in the Trump thread, but it is more pertinent to the election even though it is a legal matter.

What Democrat is going to have the balls to file an injunction in a Federal Court against President Trump's executive orders of today?

Do you know what that would mean?

By the time any court would grant one, people are going to be receiving the money. President Trump works really fast on streamlining these things. So the injunction would tell those who received the money that they might have to give it back. And it would tell those who haven't yet received the money that they can't get any. Why? Basically, because Orange Man Bad.

Who in hell is going to do that right before an election?

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The Executive Orders of today are equivalent to the Democratic Party's Titanic slamming into the iceberg.

Ditto for double posting the following meme. But I don't want to be tiresome and overly self-serving, so I'll just give the link to the post where the meme is in Trump Humor: Drumf just cut my unemployment by $200.

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21 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

The self-proclaimed principled people on our side who cannot see the Deep State for what it is are beneficiaries of the elitist ruling class.

Bingo - only change the word "cannot" to "pretend not to" - and put "on our side" in scare quotes:

"The self-proclaimed principled people 'on our side' who [pretend not to] see the Deep State for what it is are beneficiaries of the elitist ruling class."

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29 minutes ago, Ellen Stuttle said:

Bingo - only change the word "cannot" to "pretend not to" - and put "on our side" in scare quotes:

"The self-proclaimed principled people 'on our side' who [pretend not to] see the Deep State for what it is are beneficiaries of the elitist ruling class."

Ellen

Ellen,

Works for me.

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23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Ditto for double posting the following meme. But I don't want to be tiresome and overly self-serving, so I'll just give the link to the post where the meme is in Trump Humor: Drumf just cut my unemployment by $200.

I can't resist.

God knows I've tried.

But I have to post this picture here.

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23 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

What Democrat is going to have the balls to file an injunction in a Federal Court against President Trump's executive orders of today?

Tim Pool sees what I see.

Maybe someone crazy enough to do this will try, but that will end his or her political career with a long period of persecution by pissed off individuals.

According to Tim, in the near political impossibility of legally challenging these Executive Orders, the Democrats have gone for The Big Lie. Several in fact.

That's all they've got for now.

btw - This video is a pretty, although incomplete, discussion of the Executive Orders.

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On 8/8/2020 at 5:44 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

If Amash is eligible for the $1200 or $3400 and receives it, let's see if he gives it back.

Oops.

The $1200 is not part of the Executive Orders. 

Both parties want it, but they need to do pass the bill for that to kick in. Legal reasons.

My point still stands, though. If Amash gets money from the government for anything related to the COVID-19 shutdown, let's see if he gives it back.

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Our Great and Dear President Trump is reminding the Democrats of the last time they threw a big tantrum, but still lost their slaves (and new nation.)

He is discussing giving his acceptance speech at Gettsyburg, where the battle which ended that tantrum took place.

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He has not gone back to Washington since leaving to all the White House staff on the lawn waving goodbye.

Story is he went to Ohio and spoke at Whirlpool then went straight to his golf course in New Jersey, where he is still supposed to be.

He just walked off of his news briefing, 911-style. Observe:

 

 

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Press conference was interrupted by shots fired outside White House...resuming now...
I'm sure more will come out, but I saw  pointed out that a half-hour before, #interrupttrump was trending on Twitter. Apparently, journalists were calling for others to "interrupt Trump" when he starts "lying" in his answers to reports...

I wonder if that was a "dog whistle"?
 


 

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1 minute ago, ThatGuy said:

Press conference was interrupted by shots fired outside White House...resuming now...
I'm sure more will come out, but I saw  pointed out that a half-hour before, #interrupttrump was trending on Twitter. Apparently, journalists were calling for others to "interrupt Trump" when he starts "lying" in his answers to reports...

I wonder if that was a "dog whistle"?
 


 

I see. My clip may not show it. Just like on 911 when Bush was reading to the class of children and staff walks in and whispers in ear. (Bush kept reading) but Trump walked away without a word.

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I see. My clip may not show it. Just like on 911 when Bush was reading to the class of children and staff walks in and whispers in ear. (Bush kept reading) but Trump walked away without a word.

At approx. 50:09 (cued up):
 

 

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I don't know anything about the idiot outside with a gun who got taken down, but the rioters (masked as Adbusters for this) are announcing a 50 day siege at the White House before Nov 3.

I wonder if the idiot with a gun was doing a boneheaded move of casing the joint or trial run to see what would happen.

Michael

 

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On 9/9/2018 at 9:23 AM, william.scherk said:

Trump-watchers can take advantage of an 'everything Trump' website within factba.se.  

The Trump-watching and collecting of data means that they catch smaller-market interviews that other sources do not.

If you are in the market for Trump straight-up ... Factba.se / https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKrHcU-xnrRl_YbhrDwe7sA

From the latest uploads, a couple of appearances by the President, in which he tears new bungholes for Senator Harris ...

Hannity:

The 'virtual tele-rallies' continue ...

 

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After centuries of blood and pain and death The Great President Donald J Trump is helping bring peace and healing to the people of the middle east.

Obama/Biden campaigned on the promise to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Instead they vastly increased our involvement and added many more.

President Trump got us out of both and out of Syria, talks underway with N Korea, etc. 

And now peace between Israel and the Emirates.

When will you figure out that the old guard telling you he is the devil might just be upset because they want the world back the old way?

 

 

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Oddly enough, would you believe that there are some patriots/Qanons who think that this means Trump is the Antichrist? "No good deed goes unpunished..." (It's moments like this that make me sympathetic to Leonard Peikoff's warning of  "a religious theocracy  in50 years or sooner"... :P
 

And this...not sure if this one is also calling Trump the AntiChrist, but it's also taking this to match the biblical claim of peace in the middle east to be heralded by the Antichrist, the whole 7-Years thing...

 

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"Talk of a peace deal in the Middle East is a big deal. It’s no laughing matter. In the words of Ian Malcolm, the world carelessly broaches the subject, not realizing they’re dealing with actual divine power. '[They] wield it like a kid that’s found his dad’s gun.'

"Well, it now looks like the dinosaurs are soon to be unleashed. And by “dinosaur” I mean a seven-headed dragon who will be cast to earth, causing immeasurable death and destruction in the process—all because the world gives no regard to God and thinks it safe to play with divine fire."


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"BE READY.

Addendum: I’ve received some questions about this peace plan, with people curious to know if I think it is the 7-year covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27. Short answer: no. Longer answer: it could be the basis for it. Daniel 9:27 does not say that a 7-year covenant is confirmed by the antichrist. It says that a covenant is strengthened. According to Scripture, the antichrist is not revealed until the Church is taken out of the way (2 Th. 2:3, 7), thus I believe we will be gone before the deal is “strengthened” for a period of seven years.

This peace plan could very well be the basis for the post-rapture 7-year deal, though. What I do think this deal could be is the catalyst for the Tribulation and God’s judgment upon the nations."

 



https://johnbwellsnews.com/here-it-comes-the-middle-east-peace-plan/

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On 2/27/2019 at 11:48 AM, william.scherk said:

... on the subject of Michael Cohen and Donald Trump ...

I forgot about his book, since they said it wouldn't be out till October. It might come out sooner, given its lurid nature -- as revealed today at the book's website. https://disloyalthebook.com/download-the-disloyal-foreword-written-by-michael-cohen/

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One last thing I can say with great confidence, as you turn the page and meet the real real Donald Trump for the first time: This is a book the President of the United States does not want you to read.

Michael Cohen

Otisville Federal Prison, Otisville, New York, March 11, 2020

Can anyone remember the tune to "Let's Play Dirty"?

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