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The Cohen thing is an act. Same with Sessions, who is about to ruin many deep staters. The make-believe friction between them is just preemptive blunting of the perception Sessions’ takedowns will be all about  solving Trump’s political problems and therefore illegitimate. The MSM has fallen for it and millions of its brainwashing victims have also, which is amazing to me, and fortunate.

Cohen is playing a role. He’s 110% on the team. Anything they wanted to plant in his office, only to be raided, has now legally been introduced into court.

The permanent destruction of the Democrat Party is just ten weeks away.

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It is intriguing.  I've been fairly obsessed for about a year with thinking about details.  I find microbiology fascinating. I wouldn't be wise, however, to talk about details.  The schemers are

That's what it says at the top of the page.  Your point?  It's not like this thread has devolved into a medley of cat videos.  Yet.  

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3 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Another of Barry Soetoro’s abusive never-Trumper sick fuckers goes down.

“Frieden headed the CDC between 2009 and 2017, resigning the day of President Trump's inauguration.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-24/ex-cdc-head-tom-frieden-arrested-charged-forcible-touching-sex-abuse-and-harassment

Jon,

It occurs to me we are going to see who wins what. Whether the elitists will take out President Trump over muh Russians or whether a lot of sicko elitists are going to be taken out over pedophilia.

My money's on President Trump for one reason and one reason only. Muh Russians is not reality, but the pedophilia is.

Reality always wins over time. And President Trump is a reality-oriented president.

Michael

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2 minutes ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Jon,

It occurs to me we are going to see who wins what. Whether the elitists will take out President Trump over muh Russians or whether a lot of sicko elitists are going to be taken out over pedophilia.

My money's on President Trump for one reason and one reason only. Muh Russians is not reality, but the pedophilia is.

Reality always wins over time. And President Trump is a reality-oriented president.

Michael

Is the pedophilia evidence as weighty as the Russia evidence, on the scale so far? Over time, you say, but if it has all happened  already.. The Russia meetings were just 2 years ago and are fairly well attested. Why should widespread pedophilia take  more time to prove?

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3 hours ago, caroljane said:

Is the pedophilia evidence as weighty as the Russia evidence, on the scale so far?

Carol,

I'll go with the Rosenstein's official statement when he indicted a ham sandwich (I mean some small-time Russian spammers :) ). 

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There’s no allegation in this document that any American citizen committed a crime. There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result.

That's your real Russian evidence.

All the rest is fake news spin and magical thinking.

(See here for an elaboration, with videos and all,  if you are in doubt.)

Do you have any such official law enforcement statement saying there is no evidence of pedophilia among elitists in such-and-such widespread investigation and no child was affected?

I didn't think so...

On the other hand, I have a bunch of pedophiles who recently landed in jail I can point to, elitist and "human cattle" (which is the way elitists like to think of average middle class people). And lots more pedophiles in jail are on the way.

Michael

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On 8/9/2018 at 8:41 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Well, if Kasich says something about Trump not knowing how to win elections, it must be true...

:evil: 

I have another take. For whatever reason, things were slipping bad for Balderson. Then President Trump did ONE RALLY for him and a tweet or two. Then things turned around.

In other words, I agree with Kasich that the election was about Trump. But as far as knocking off stuff, I think he should knock off his whisper campaign that it's OK for Republicans to lose during this phase. As John Galt would say, "Get out of my way."

So I say let's see what happens in the real election in November.

btw - Balderson won, if anyone cares about how that turned out.

(I do because the man President Trump endorsed won. If he had lost, I would be among those who are not interested anymore. :) )

Even the fake news NYT threw in the towel.

Troy Balderson, Ohio Republican, Wins Special Election for House Seat

It's the Trump factor.

:)

Now, Balderson and O’Connor get to do it all over again in November.

Michael

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The President spoke at length today at an Ohio state Republican party dinner.  The video below is from a Faked-News Youtube channel.  Of note are brief remarks about the GOP's showing in the midterms, at 33:33.

 

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On 8/24/2018 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Rush Limbaugh accidentally came up with a question that laser-targets the epistemology of this issue. He was discussing the South Africa problem (confiscating farms of white owners and the way the left spins this in the press). Then he did a tangent on socialism, where the epistemology kicked in.

South Africa Is Indeed Looking to Seize Farms!

Now for the epistemology lesson from that transcript.

 

Michael

 


"I have my eye on you". (In effect)

The president doesn't have to say much more, his implication, as regularly before, is if you (a country) want to be part of the civilised and rule of law-abiding group of nations -- then behave that way, with self-responsibility, and protect lives and property rights. (Otherwise, there could be economic consequences - and you know I can do it). Every other world leader, notably the UK, has shirked and played down the farm issue in South Africa, with a muted response only from an Australian govt. minister inviting farmers over there. Their chicken appeasement policy is clear, like the UK turned a blind eye after cutting loose Zimbabwe: they don't want to appear to be racist, patronising and post-imperialist. As it is, the outraged reactions in local media have been tiresomely predictable. Good for you, President Trump! 

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All the headlines fit to print ... 

Tucker Carlson walks back bogus South Africa scaremongering

 

 

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23 hours ago, william.scherk said:

In two of the quoted tweets the President addresses Jeff Sessions ... "Come on Jeff, you can do it, the country is waiting!"  and "Ex-NSA contractor to spend 63 months in jail over “classified” information. Gee, this is “small potatoes” compared to what Hillary Clinton did! So unfair Jeff, Double Standard."

The President snipes at the Attorney-General via Twitter ... but Sessions says:

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Trump did not mention the person sentenced to jail, nor does he seem to understand the guilty plea of Reality Winner. "Classified"  seems a scare quote, but who knows?  

Anyway, Trump-supporters are said to be rather reality-oriented:  "Trump supporters know what he means. They don't need fact checks to know what he means."

We can come back to the President's tweets as he navigates the universe.  A couple of things not yet reported here ...

  • Two guys at the top of AMI (the National Inquirer's publisher) have accepted immunity from prosecution ...
  • The chief financial officer of the Trump organization received immunity from prosecution in the 'fixer' case ... 
  • The self-dealing of the defunct Trump Foundation is the subject of a state criminal probe (as well as a suit brought by the state A-G).
  • The 'fixer' will be able to testify...
  • The defunct foundation may answer state charges at an October trial

It might be time for a committee of benghazi or two ...

"Hi Jeff!  I didn't understand a word you said ..."

If I quote someone then I did not say it. My motives for quoting a derogatory comment might simply be for instructive reasons and not to "cast aspersions." I wouldn't want our President, First Lady, kids or anyone on OL to think I said those bizarre comments about the President.

I wonder if McCain will have his daughter who appears on Fox become his senate proxy?  

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6 hours ago, william.scherk said:

All the headlines fit to print ... 

Tucker Carlson walks back bogus South Africa scaremongering

 

 

 

William, and to the fact-checkers, the Post writes a most disingenuous few articles on SA, getting all excited by tripping up Tucker.

What WaPo and most other MSM constantly fail to miss is that Trump often achieves his aims by doing the least. Only with a tweet, usually. He "fires a warning shot across the bows" so to speak. This minimalist act has run-on effects which often turn out satisfactorily. Look for the implicit, with Trump, not just the explicit.

Have they not learned how he does things, by now? I think Trump has a more advanced grasp of human nature and causation than many pundits.

Here, it is true that farms haven't been seized - yet . But they will be.  Before then, and after, this will be disastrous for South Africa - for one: who would now invest here? The rand will weaken further. Unemployment reach higher than (the 'official' figure) presently 28% Etc. The policy's intent sends a tacit signal to a populace, that "anything goes". Anyone can pre-empt official channels, even before the Constitutional change, and take whatever property they want. Anyone's farm, anyone's home, any white business, a vacant plot, etc. and any individuals/owners who resist are fair game. Zuma and Malema, adored by many, gave them permission.

Only having the POTUS watching on, gives the SA authorities some hesitation, perhaps to walk a semi-legal line and restrain the land invaders. That could be meaningful, and I think has been encouraging to many here who own property, whites and blacks.. 

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1 hour ago, Peter said:

I wonder if McCain will have his daughter who appears on Fox become his senate proxy?  

He has a daughter -- Meghan McCain -- who appears as a panelist on The View ... which is an ABC network show.  McCain will most probably die before his allotted term ends (in 2023) ... though one of my informants (Sather) says McCain is faking his illness ... and so death will be a phony 'what they want you to think' action of Them.

Anyway, in Arizona, according to the folks at the National Conference of State & Legislatures ... the Governor of Arizona shall appoint a replacement to the Senate from the same party as the dead/departed Senator.  If this is accomplished before this fall's state-wide election, then that appointed person must face a balloting.  Most likely, to my mind, the Arizona governor just does not have enough time to plug the seat before balloting ... so then the Arizona Senate seat will be put to election at the next state-wide election, which would then be 2020.

Meghan McCain may be on a 'replacement list' to be assigned or appointed to the seat ... but she may not accept it, and if she did accept the assignation, she may not want to run  for election ... Chelsea Clinton notwithstanding.

In other news, what do we know about the former ANC member in the video above?

From a Wikipedia page on Julius Malema ... with footnote markings removed:

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Julius Sello Malema (born 3 March 1981) is a Member of Parliament and the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters, a far-left South African political party, which he founded in July 2013.  He previously served as President of the African National Congress Youth League from 2008 to 2012. Malema was a member of the ANC until his expulsion from the party in April 2012. He occupies a notably controversial position in South African public and political life, having risen to prominence with his support for ANC president, and later President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma. He was described by both Zuma and the Premier of Limpopo Province as the "future leader" of South Africa.  Less favourable portraits paint him as a "reckless populist" with the potential to destabilise South Africa and to spark racial conflict. 

Malema was convicted of hate speech in March 2010 and again in September 2011. In November 2011 he was found guilty of sowing divisions within the ANC and, in conjunction with his two-year suspended sentence in May 2010, was suspended from the party for five years.  In 2011, he was again convicted of hate speech after singing "Dubula iBunu" ("Shoot the Boer"), a decision upheld on appeal, leading to his expulsion from the ANC. 

In 2012 Malema was charged with fraud, money-laundering and racketeering. After numerous postponements, the case was dismissed by the courts in 2015 due to excessive delays by the National Prosecuting Authority, leading to perceptions that the charges were politically motivated,  however, in 2018, Afrikaner rights group AfriForum announced that it would mount a private prosecution of Malema on the corruption charges. 

In June 2018, Malema gained additional notoriety when he was asked whether he was responsible for organizing gang members to murder white farmers, and responded "Maybe. Maybe not."

 

 

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McCain's term ends in 2023 ... but an election to fill the seat must be had by 2020 at the latest ...
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10 minutes ago, anthony said:

Here, it is true that farms haven't been seized - yet . But they will be.  

I appreciate your opinion and prediction Tony ... though I do not share your glowing appreciation of the current US President.  

(I read a variety of Africa-based 'faked news' sources; do you have any sources in which you put trust?)

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14 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

... though I do not share your glowing appreciation of the current US President.

William,

LOL...

That's because you like progressive authoritarian government systems and you're in Canada. Neither is Trump-friendly (although Canada will be later.)

But you're ass ain't in South Africa looking at mobs of people next door saying they want to kill you and take your stuff because they don't like your race.

President Trump saying he's watching and implying he will not stand for racist genocide looks pretty damn good to anyone in that situation. I bet he would look great to you, too--glowing appreciation and all--if your own particular ass was on the line in South Africa.

How's that for a reframe?

:) 

Michael

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35 minutes ago, anthony said:

William, and to the fact-checkers, the Post writes a most disingenuous few articles on SA, getting all excited by tripping up Tucker.

Tony,

You need to be careful with William's embrace of fake news media spin.

I just watched the video and I didn't see Tucker being tripped up on anything. I, also, didn't see him walk back any bogus anything. Nada.

I saw the State Department walk back a so-called misunderstanding, instead. And they did it tepidly (to use Tucker's word) at that.

Michael

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39 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

I appreciate your opinion and prediction Tony ... though I do not share your glowing appreciation of the current US President.  

 

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Damn. I have to say it. And the previous one? He, whose intentions were noble and left unfinished tasks and a mess behind as his legacy?

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That Post writer above, Karen Attiah, ticks all the leftist boxes and she lies by omission: "White supremacists" blah, blah - and "9 % of the population still owns 72% land" (hm - of the low proportion of *arable* land - maybe) - and so on. 

First, there are few to none "white supremacists" here in SA, now. How do a tiny 9% aspire to be racially supreme/superior? Indeed, the farm owners, voluntarily, have been greatly effective in improving the conditions and wages of their farm-workers for many years now. There are very few racial tensions.

What is notable are the *black* supremacists in the ANC and marxist EFF.

Second, after 25 years of SA democracy why don't blacks own more farms? They clearly have been free to do so, and farms always come up for sale, and there are plenty of new black millionaires (like the billionaire President Ramaphosa) who could afford them.

Simple answer, very, very few wealthy blacks - and most others -  this far, are interested in, drawn to or have the dedication and skills for large-scale farming which many Afrikaners and some English-settlers have learned the hard way. It's very difficult, not so profitable, not glamorous enough for sophisticated city dwellers/businessmen. Rural young people otoh normally don't want to remain there, and are attracted to the big cities. So from where are the putative black farmers who will supposedly manage and own confiscated farms going to emerge?

But a leftist paper will not provide all the facts nor ask the pertinent questions. They are confined to their kneejerk, racial editorial line. No wonder they are called fake news.

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Trump in my opinion isn’t going far enough.

He wants to repatriate corporate dollars that are currently overseas.

He wants to bring these American corporations back to the US and create jobs in America.

He wants to make the American economy the most competitive and cutting edge in the world.

There is a much more effective way to achieve these goals that don’t involve tariffs and trade wars with China.

Drop the corporate tax to zerooooooo.

After all a tax on corporations is a tax on jobs.

With zero corporate taxes NO other nation could compete.  No other nation could or would do it.

No tariffs would be necessary.

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6 hours ago, anthony said:

And the previous one?

Some questions get answered, some do not.  You seem to have answered that question to your own satisfaction ...

6 hours ago, william.scherk said:

(I read a variety of Africa-based 'faked news' sources; do you have any sources in which you put trust?)

Zzzzzzz

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19 hours ago, william.scherk said:

I appreciate your opinion and prediction Tony ...  

(I read a variety of Africa-based 'faked news' sources; do you have any sources in which you put trust?)

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How about, none? I "trust" what I have seen, and reservedly, what I hear. Unlike your belief in news, I trust news sources only in limited amounts. Having worked in the press and then PR, I know how they and journalists operate (also editorial standards of newspapers and reporting were immensely higher back then, all over the world and in the English opposition press here), anyway much content today has swung to opinion and political spin, less, factual.

Anyhow, William, how does this query on "sources" apply here? I've not mentioned at all, murky 'facts' about the horrific farm murders, as compared to the national murder rate, and whether there is deliberate targeting of white farmers, nor anything about the brutality, nor the possible racial vengeance, or any potential collusion by some in govt. or its possible squelching of forensic data. Do I believe there is some-much truth in these, yes.

I've stuck to the known facts - public incitement by two filthy political leaders - and the plan to (arbitrarily) take and redistribute successful (of course) farms, and the morality and workability of this. I think this is looting by state, of course.  You heard too, my appreciation that one world leader has been forthright enough to call it as he sees it, and to question the justice of this action - by a black majority government upon a minority - when everyone else is terrified to speak up.

But all of this has only tangential relevance in this thread, however crucial it is. "Land" and the settlement/colonization 100's of years ago by Europeans into huge and largely uninhabited territories is a fraught topic which is not going away. South Africa and its white minority is collecting some of the guilt arising from that from other ex-colonial countries.

 

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On 8/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, william.scherk said:

I appreciate your opinion and prediction Tony ...  

(I read a variety of Africa-based 'faked news' sources; do you have any sources in which you put trust?)

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How about, none?

That would be outrageous 'philosophical skepticism.'  Trust no one. Trust nothing. 

But yeah.  It looks like RSA has a mid-level ranking for a robust "free" press (at least according to one of the most useful metrics from RSF/Reporters without borders), not yet completely outside the front ranks of English-speaking former Empire holdings.  Except for the obvious exceptions, of course.

It looks to my naive eyes that media freedoms hinge on independence ... from the usual authoritarian constraints that bind say, Egypt's media -- or more sharply, Turkey's media.

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I "trust" what I have seen, and reservedly, what I hear.

Fair enough.  What I was getting at.  If we were having a stroll through dynamic Jo-burg, my conversational gambit would probably be more like:  tell me what kind of media environment you have here, the 'least worst,' so to speak.  At the newsstand, for example, I would buy a couple of the bizarre Jeune Afrique magazines, an Economist, and then a few journals, business publications, dailies you read or shake your head over.  

When I lived in Quebec the worst was the weekly Allo Police! exclamation mark tabloid. It was completely lurid and devoted to crimes of vice and license, as well as mafia matters. 

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Unlike your belief in news, I trust news sources only in limited amounts.

Personal sniping is so good. 'Unlike you, I am smart and moral.'  Works every time.

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Having worked in the press and then PR, I know how they and journalists operate (also editorial standards of newspapers and reporting were immensely higher back then, all over the world and in the English opposition press here), anyway much content today has swung to opinion and political spin, less, factual.

Anyhow, William, how does this query on "sources" apply here?

It's one of those trick epistemological queries that hinge on "how do you know?" ... it's also a call to share information sources, or to aid in broadening a reader's scope.  I mean, I always appreciate an embed of a Paul Joseph Watson video, even when it is unaccompanied by a comment of your own, or even a slab of someone else's opinion from some unlinked webpage.  One can ask for more ...

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I've not mentioned at all, murky 'facts' about the horrific farm murders, as compared to the national murder rate, and whether there is deliberate targeting of white farmers, nor anything about the brutality, nor the possible racial vengeance, or any potential collusion by some in govt. or its possible squelching of forensic data.

One hell of a sentence.  Murky "facts" might be useful discussion starters, though. 

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Do I believe there is some-much truth in these, yes.

I've stuck to the known facts - public incitement by two filthy political leaders - and the plan to (arbitrarily) take and redistribute successful (of course) farms, and the morality and workability of this. I think this is looting by state, of course.  You heard too, my appreciation that one world leader has been forthright enough to call it as he sees it, and to question the justice of this action - by a black majority government upon a minority - when everyone else is terrified to speak up.

Kind of like when one world leader utters a tweet about the beheadings now awaiting four human rights activists in yon Saudi Arabia.

I'd pay money for a least-biased narrative about the foreseeable future -- specifically the course of a constitutional amendment, and the likely entailments.

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But all of this has only tangential relevance in this thread, however crucial it is. "Land" and the settlement/colonization 100's of years ago by Europeans into huge and largely uninhabited territories is a fraught topic which is not going away. South Africa and its white minority is collecting some of the guilt arising from that from other ex-colonial countries.

Yeah, fraught topic, justice, injustice. 

I had hoped for a kind of "least worst"  English-language media outlet that appeals to a thoughtful viewer/reader/listener.

I don't know if CNBC Africa is a tainted tentacle of the faked-news media, but this embed was interesting, and perhaps topical, since it mentions the US President.  I kind of favour business media when looking at foreign outlets.  Least amount of Hollywood Squares/CNN pinpall shoutiness and over-all rampant opinion ...

[Durn video autoplay replaced by link: https://www.cnbcafrica.com/videos/2018/08/24/heres-why-afriforum-defends-trumps-tweet-on-land/]

And then there is the art and science of persuasion ...

 

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2 hours ago, william.scherk said:

That would be outrageous 'philosophical skepticism.'  Trust no one. Trust nothing. 

 

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What that is rather, William is "methodological skepticism", the normal careful "skepticism" of checking first - verifying facts and information incoming (usually) from others, and man-provided sources. Far distinct and not to be confused as here, with "philosophical skepticism", which is basically that knowledge as a whole, is not possible to a mind. For that skeptical epistemology, one's senses are imperfect/ineffectual - and/or, that abstracted concepts corresponding to reality can't be formed in a mind. Iow, casting doubt on, or even, dispensing with, reason.

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