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2 hours ago, KorbenDallas said:

If the N-word tape existed and we all heard it, it wouldn't change a thing.

Korben,

Don't forget about Adobe Voco and Lyrebird. You know this technology in a refined stage is already in the hands of billionaires. I think the reason they haven't started bombarding the public with fake audio is because the billionaires on both sides have it. So it's a standoff reminiscent of mutually assured destruction. If one guys does it, the other will, too.

But somebody is going to slip up one day as the temptation is more than some humans can bear to make a recording of a hated enemy saying stupid shit in a realistic manner. Then kaboom. Things will get quite colorful and entertaining.

:) 

Michael

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It is intriguing.  I've been fairly obsessed for about a year with thinking about details.  I find microbiology fascinating. I wouldn't be wise, however, to talk about details.  The schemers are

That's what it says at the top of the page.  Your point?  It's not like this thread has devolved into a medley of cat videos.  Yet.  

That is astonishing. Thanks Jon. Behaviors that can cause a kid, later in life to be screwed up enough to become addicts or to kill themselves, needs a remedy and if the answer is chemical or physical

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11 hours ago, caroljane said:

Actually, I agree with you that these verdicts won't affect those elections. Trump majorities don't care/don't believe  Trump has done anything wrong in reaching out to Russia or paying off prostititutes-- and  if the payoff came out of campaign funds, it wasn't out of their hard-earned tax money, at least.

I disagree. Trump voters do care. Very much so. They just recognize that even with all of this shit (and potential more shit), it's still WAY better than Hillary, or Obama, or any other leftist. Leftists have a crap ideology, plus they have as much or more corrupt shit as Trump, plus their voters actually don't care about their candidates' and  elected officials' misdeeds. The only time that they pretend to care is when they can use it as a weapon. Just like you're doing now. Look at the Keith Ellison nomination for MN AG. If it were Trump or any other republican, the left would be screaming that women need to be listened to, and they'd be hounding and outing anyone and everyone who had endorsed the accused abuser, and who had not denounced and condemned him. The entire party would be smeared as waging a war against women. But with their own candidate, they're hedging, hiding, playing games, hoping it will all blow over, looking the other way, not believing the victim.

The right has merely learned how to ignore your pretend morality, and not fall for your incitements to vote for the much greater of two evils.

J

 

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The President -- and FoxNews's Sean "Michael Cohen was also my lawyer/advisor" Hannity -- have figured out the law ...

From the peanut gallery:  "What is a felony?"

Another guy whose law studies have given him a certain insight. Styxhexenhammer666 opines on Manafort woes and the Cohen plea:

 

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5 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

The President -- and FoxNews's Sean "Michael Cohen was also my lawyer/advisor" Hannity -- have figured out the law ...

Another guy whose law studies have given him a certain insight...

Are you saying that they're wrong?

Are you not saying something?

J

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A couple of extra Presidential tweets from today:

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

A couple of extra Presidential tweets from today:

 

 

 

Would you be saying they were extra if you were the one in jail ? 

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22 hours ago, william.scherk said:

Drudge offers a pungent kind of tonic:

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Cannot wait till November elections are done and then we hear how the Russians fixed them , Trump is going to lose in 2020 and all the exact same blah blah that we have heard since day one .

I believe that the Senate will be 65-70% Trump and Trump will also add at least 15-20 in Congress .

yeah , and an obvious sweep of all 50 states in 2020 . 

Trump is the people and the people are Trump . 

Booyah 

 

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The 'anti-Trump' blob is full of individuals plonking the same melody over and over. And then there is bestselling author Rick Wilson, who belongs to ... the Daily Beast, I guess. Emphasis added to MSK's remarks.

16 hours ago, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Man, the anti-Trumpers should be hooting it up that Trump would waste his time now that they have him cornered with no way out and he is signed sealed and delivered and it's all over for him except the crying. I can't wait to read all the snark. Maybe they'll run with some repeats of their texts during the last presidential election that Hillary was to win as a sure bet regardless of how many rallies Trump did.

Come on, people, say something.

I'm interested... All ears...

 

More fun stuff ...

Finally, President Trump says he paid off the porn-star (and let's not forget Karen McDougal) ...

Someone who should know better?

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19 minutes ago, Marc said:

Cannot wait till November elections are done and then we hear how the Russians fixed them , Trump is going to lose in 2020 and all the exact same blah blah that we have heard since day one .

I believe that the Senate will be 65-70% Trump and Trump will also add at least 15-20 in Congress .

yeah , and an obvious sweep of all 50 states in 2020 . 

Trump is the people and the people are Trump . 

Booyah 

 

Correction Marc, as of the last fed election, 49% of the people were Trump in electoral popular-vote terms, , while Trump himself was 1% of the people, in economic terms as usual. Maybe by now 0.5%.

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"Lock her up! Lock her up!"  If you could just come this way, Mr Cohen. Mr Flynn, your sentencing is delayed ...

 

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5 hours ago, william.scherk said:

The President -- and FoxNews's Sean "Michael Cohen was also my lawyer/advisor" Hannity -- have figured out the law ...

From the peanut gallery:  "What is a felony?"

 

Another guy whose law studies have given him a certain insight. Styxhexenhammer666 opines on Manafort woes and the Cohen plea:

 

 

 

 

"Richard Nixon was a sexual degenerate"?>

the mind reels.

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On 8/21/2018 at 10:42 PM, Michael Stuart Kelly said:

Korben,

Don't forget about Adobe Voco and Lyrebird. You know this technology in a refined stage is already in the hands of billionaires. I think the reason they haven't started bombarding the public with fake audio is because the billionaires on both sides have it. So it's a standoff reminiscent of mutually assured destruction. If one guys does it, the other will, too.

But somebody is going to slip up one day as the temptation is more than some humans can bear to make a recording of a hated enemy saying stupid shit in a realistic manner. Then kaboom. Things will get quite colorful and entertaining.

:) 

Michael

We have survived fraud and false charges with photoshop and video editing technology, so I think we'll survive Voco and Lyrebird, and similar technologies...

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Korben,

Were your Photoshopped meme photos of Trump presented as real photos to real stories?

Like, say, the Obama birth certificate was? People take that document as the real thing these days, so this crap works sometimes. :evil: (btw - Just for the record, I believe from circumstantial evidence like newspaper accounts of the time that Obama was born in the US. I do not believe the document he presented as his birth certificate is authentic.)

But think of this, audio is a lot easier to obfuscate. Or maybe fool people with by obfuscation is a better way to say it.

Don't forget that sampling is a standard music tool these days. So is removing a voice from a commercial recording bought in a store and leaving the arrangement. And then there's this. The versions of Voco and Lyrebird that manage to reach the public at large are greatly degraded. Imagine the latest (and hidden) versions of these programs in the hands of master propagandists who will not go for the cheap shot.

I bet billionaires and governments are going to invest some big bucks in programs and tools that amplify and dissect audio in ways that find signs and traces of this kind of manipulation. 

Michael

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The NSA, CIA, FBI already have that shit.

Iiiiiit isn’t as easy as it sounds though, everything has a fingerprint as you know from studio recording.  Making it believable to basically fool the audio “police”. That would be some powerful editing.

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From today's early morning broadcast of an interview with President Trump, by Fox News's Ainsley Earhardt.

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Ainsley is so sweet! It's a nice change to see a member of the press lobbing soft, gentle pitches to a republican. She's almost as sweet as Esme Murphy was in her interview with Keith Ellison the other day. Of course, it's no where near as fawning as the press was with Obama, what with the unrestrained gushing, and the ejaculating under their clothing, etc.

Anyway, thanks for posting the vid. I did learn some things. It's going to be a fun circus to watch.

J

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Further to opinion that the Cohen pleas will have close to zero impact on the President legally (if not politically) ...

On 8/21/2018 at 11:56 AM, william.scherk said:

What does this have to do with Donald Trump?  Probably close to absolute zero in terms of dirtying the President's reputation or contributing to legal jeopardy, IMHO. Cohen's reputation is something else, though. "Why didn't somebody tell me my longtime fixer was crooked?" will be said by nobody on Twitter.

For those who wonder if there is any other shoe to drop -- involving pay-offs involving a mistress and a sex-movie actress.  The frame of the narrative is that Karen McDougal's story was quashed by the National Inquirer via AMI, with money paid via by shell companies to avoid reporting it as a campaign expense/outlay.

So, a phony Fake News headline saying "Pecker agrees to cooperative with federal investigators" might mean nothing. Whereas ... a real fake news headline will read: Prosecutors grant immunity to Enquirer's David Pecker: report

Who da hell David Pecker?

-- on another note, if you tend to take Trump's lead in framing the Cohen meaninglessness ... you will have to put aside the word/concept "fixer."  As the President said to Ainsley Earhardt:

“He was a lawyer for me for, one of many. They always say ‘the lawyer,’ and then they like to add ‘the fixer.’ I don’t know him as a fixer. I don’t know where that term came from. He’s been a lawyer for me. Didn’t do big deals, did small deals.

Not somebody that was with me that much. They make it sound like I didn’t live without him. I understood Michael Cohen very well. Turned out he wasn’t a very good lawyer, frankly. But he was somebody that was probably with me for about 10 years and I would see him sometimes.”

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44 minutes ago, william.scherk said:

Further to opinion that the Cohen pleas will have close to zero impact on the President legally (if not politically

“He was a lawyer for me for, one of many.....

Not somebody that was with me that much. They make it sound like I didn’t live without him. I understood Michael Cohen very well. Turned out he wasn’t a very good lawyer, frankly. But he was somebody that was probably with me for about 10 years and I would see him sometimes.”

lol sort of like his first wife Ivana?

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